Re: Valentina's Story Ver. 0.01 (Corruption sandbox rpg) [Patreon]
If you thought my first post was a monster ....
Damn! Lol guess I have to come up with some more secrets.
Yes please!
@viciouswaffel You are mostly right, however there are a few scenes that check them separately. For example the school bathroom masturbation scene only has a horny req. (but your shame must be less than 80? to trigger the check)
Also, it appears you must have your shame below 80 (ignoring modification from horniness) to masturbate next to your dad.
Mixing it up with different checks is very cool when it makes sense in the situation. If Val perceives a low chance of getting caught, what's wrong with rubbing one out (like if she's in her bed, how could THAT ever come back to haunt her)? Horniness could play a more significant role here than shame, because she's satisfying a need.
If she's in a high-risk situation (I dunno, perhaps she's masturbating while leaning against her father), it shouldn't matter how horny she is if the risk of getting caught is too great for her to bear.
Most of the time though, your core mechanic (shame - horniness / 10) makes perfect sense.
@Nexano The game is unfinished so yeah ... those scenes haven't been created yet
I thought about just ending the game when you saw most of the current content or when you got to a certain shame value but that seemed kind of lame.
What are your thoughts about ending conditions? In most of my play-throughs I've been aiming for the village bicycle, but what about ending conditions where she manages to avoid all of the temptation? Or if she can manage to maintain her V card despite getting to the top in the gentleman's club, or establishing "arrangements" so that she doesn't have to go to class.
I'm attaching a revised character graph (updated with events from the party). For people new to this game, this graph represents interactions or relationships between named or labeled characters that I've found on my play-throughs. Nothing more, nothing less.
And against my better judgment, I'm going to brainstorm a few ideas on where you could go with applying themes to different characters and locations. This is pretty much an unfiltered brain-dump, and I'm totally not sorry for the length of this post:
Characters:
Sam: I like where you're going with the submissive/incest theme here, but I agree with doob420 and think there should be much more choice on the part of the player for pursuing a physical relationship here. Also, this could segue into a relationship with Abby (perhaps 3-ways with Sam and Abby) and/or much more interaction with the cosplay competition audience. I could see Abby and Val on stage together. Perhaps inviting up a few audience members?
Dad: More please! Based on Val's initiative I could see this as developing as a more power-neutral, almost exploratory incestuous relationship than submissive or dominant. Mom could certainly get involved, but I don't know how well Sam would fit here. This relationship strikes me as something that would be physical if pursued by the player, unless you want to explore some other themes with this?
Mom: I don't really see much developing here, besides Mom being a horrible influence on her daughter
. Perhaps this would develop better at work with Mr. Maxwell, which seems like it's perfectly suited as a submissive/employer relationship. Mother daughter threesome anyone?
Stranger: (the one she flashes while picking up the newspaper) Honestly, if I knew this sort of thing happened at this house, I may be back for more. While I don't see much depth here (definitely not deserving of a story arc), at really low shame, who knows how far Valentina would be willing to go with a total stranger.
Kid: Nope.
John: Has paid Val $10 for bending over in front of him. I wonder what else he'd be willing to pay for.
George: Seems nice for a total passive-aggressive flirt. He definitely feels something for Val, especially when she's wearing a skimpy bikini, and is also genuinely concerned for her safety. I appreciate him, and I think I should be able to fully express that appreciation through Val. I think a story arc could develop here with him offering to walk her home once the thugs show up, and then possibly escalate from there on subsequent days.
Dane: This guy seems like a younger, hotter, and surprisingly less flirtatious version of George. Almost like he'd be the one that Val would be corrupting rather than the other way around. Maybe give him a ring?
Quick aside: George, Dane and Mr. Maxwell could fill three different employer power-dynamic roles quite well, George being neutral, Dane passive and Maxwell domineering.
The Thugs: This seems to be broken when walking through here in a bra or nude. I'm betting you already have this planned out, but a bra could be stripped down to nude, and walking through here nude should either trigger a masturbation show or just lead straight to the gangbang.
Tony: This is an interesting one. Having him show up on the beach, and tying him to the college as the swimming instructor sets him up as a well-rounded individual: someone Val could have an actual normal relationship with. While he is certainly a pervert (at least get a room before massaging a woman to orgasm), at least he wasn't fucking someone else when they first met. I think this guy could match Val quite well.
Zach: I get the idea that you already have this planned out, but holy shit the places you could go with this: a) Hannah and Zach could end up getting Val pregnant. b) Val could end up replacing Hannah as Zach's main squeeze. c) Val could somehow manage to get Hannah away from Zach, which would probably lead to: d) Somehow confront the dean (like father like son). I don't see any interaction with Hannah outside of the scope of Zach though, as we're introduced to her well into the establishment of that "relationship".
Mr. Knight, Mr. Coolie, Ms. Connor: It might be nice to come up with some way of doing sexual favors to get out of classes. That would alleviate the need to continue going every day. At the same time, I can't wait to see Val volunteer to be the nude model in drawing class, or for something equally interesting when learning about human reproduction in Coolie's class. Also, you have the potential to develop these characters with three different flavors of power dynamic, just like we had for the incest themes and employer themes .... oh you genius you.
Danny, Jerry: Sure these guys are despicable perverts, but they've got cocks. They could be scheduled in other classes with Val as well. It'd be funny if they developed crushes on her, or if there was some way to corrupt them. Maybe after masturbating in the rest room a few times, Val could invite one (or both) of them down between classes with her.
Old Man: Don't know enough about him outside the context of Steven, but he seems like he could be a good segue to get into the bar.
Steven: I would almost expect a lower maximum shame of 50 to get fucked by a stranger in a public subway. With that being said, the layup is very solid, he's definitely very domineering about it, and serves a very critical function of scratching Val's itch when she needs it. I could see old man and Steven double teaming Val in the subway, except that he's needed as a lookout. Maybe they could take her to the bar, get her naked (or not) and fuck her there all morning before it opens. That would make for a better introduction to that location anyways.
"Dude": This guy seems like he could be a total pity fuck. He's got a tent right? Lets make his dreams come true!
A quick aside: If you're going to flesh out school activities (which it would make sense to do in the afternoon after classes) that would be the perfect place to introduce Jean for wrestling, and Tony for swimming, Brandon for music, and Josh for cheer-leading (Josh playing football, Valentina cheer-leading). This would provide a nice foil from the party atmosphere they were introduced in.
Jean: She seems like she could be the perfect dominant bisexual, who could easily vibe well with Brandon.
Brandon: Don't really have any thoughts on him here, except that he could be the least sleazy guy who's been in Val so far. I could see him as potential boyfriend material, but I also wouldn't be surprised to find him cheating.
Josh, Anya: These two scream threesome, that should happen! It might also be cool if you could steal Josh away from Anya or vice versa. This relationship strikes me as the yang to Zach and Hannah's Yin. It might be interesting if you could leverage these two to help break Hannah from Zach.
Mary: Strikes me as the chill lesbian who doesn't give a fuck. Unfortunately, these characters should only show up in parties or in school activities since they're not also freshmen (chances are slim they're going to be taking the same freshmen classes).
Guy in park at night (not in graph): Seems VERY dominant, and you obviously have plans about where you want to develop his story/character.
Town Pervert (not in graph): This is the guy who hangs out in front of the convenience store and the bar. Seems like a reasonable source of cash for sexual favors, don't really have anything else to say about him.
Peeping tom (not in graph): This is the guy who's hanging out next to the beach changing rooms. I think this guy could be suitable as a convenience fuck once you unlock him to the point where he'll come inside with you. This could start when you catch him peeping on you while you're changing, and develop from there.
Blue-haired girl at college (not in graph): This girl strikes me as a potential new best friend. Not only does she warn you of Zach, but she's cute, and she could certainly fit in class with everyone else. She could be a friend you invite to those parties as well.
Locations:
Trading Company: Definitely a place to develop a potential relationship with your mom, but more likely the male execs of the company. See: The Wolf of Wall Street.
Gentleman's Club: An obvious next-tier location to make more money, and explore sexuality. It makes sense to have her only entry as a waitress, but if her shame is low enough, she could go straight to entertainer. A natural point of transition between waitress and entertainer could come as a slow night or a no-show dancer as an opportunity for Val to get on the stage. Money made here could reflect her shame and horniness values. If she does well, patrons could ask for private dances, and potentially for more in the VIP rooms.
Bar: Besides the Steve and Old Man connection mentioned earlier, this location could be used if you want to explore Val turning to prostitution. We were going down that road anyways.
Homeless camp: I don't see much use for this besides niche interactions with "Dude". Homeless people don't have much money and don't determine your grade. Maybe if she wants to do house calls for "Dude"?
Party: While I appreciate the expediency, fucking at the first party doesn't leave a lot of room to develop that story-line.
Game Balance:
Money: The only time I have money issues is when I visit the convenience store and buy the extremely overpriced items there. I can actually get her shame down faster if I focus on timing and buying outfits that enable daily shame-reducing events sooner. If you are planning on introducing next-tier jobs and money sources, this will get even worse without adjustments to the economy: Either increasing the price of items, reducing the income values, or adding additional one-time or reoccurring expenses.
I think I've written enough for today.
