You can reduce the amount if you win at blackjack, which (If I remember correctly) you need to talk to the old man about to learn that they cheat. After that it's just standard blackjack rules.
You can reduce the amount if you win at blackjack, which (If I remember correctly) you need to talk to the old man about to learn that they cheat. After that it's just standard blackjack rules.
To expand further on this, actually a new person will appear at the Harbour to tell you that they cheat. After that it will be a one-time only chance to play a fair blackjack game of 10 rounds with them where each round won reduces 20k from the total at the end. I suggest saving beforehand.
To expand further on this, actually a new person will appear at the Harbour to tell you that they cheat. After that it will be a one-time only chance to play a fair blackjack game of 10 rounds with them where each round won reduces 20k from the total at the end. I suggest saving beforehand.
Ahh... I think I did talk to that one (one of the few untranslated dialogs I've seen, was unsure what it was about). I do have a no-reload policy (unless getting a gameover), but thank you very much for the information!
It's not complete. Personally I'm still waiting for some more stuff to get translated before I jump into this game (haven't even tried it a little bit yet).
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This game is AMAZING! Why does it not have a ton of sales? Got it on DMM since it's not on the English dlsite, but the sales are just ok at best.
Thanks to SFrame for the superb translation too.
Question about the game. I'm currently at the get 200k gold phase, and... Well, having a bit of a "problem". I'm playing blind, and no reset unless I get a full gameover. The one loss I had so far was to a sand worm protecting a chest (so not a gameover). I'm trying very very hard for Luna not to get a loss or have to do bad things. But I'm at a loss on how to make money. I've completely cleared the dungeon/mountains to the NW of town, barely beat the boss and gave some wolf pelts for no benefit. Can win the first arena fight, but not the second. I'm at 15k after all that, far from the 200k. I did the beggar gropping even (as it's not that bad) so maybe I can get an alternative that way,
What are the options? Prostitution or dancing? Any alternatives? Repeating the first arena fight would be very slow at 2.5k per fight, and it doesn't seem like the princess has a lot of time (At end of day 3 but things are getting really bad really fast)...
You can reduce the amount if you win at blackjack, which (If I remember correctly) you need to talk to the old man about to learn that they cheat. After that it's just standard blackjack rules.
To expand further on this, actually a new person will appear at the Harbour to tell you that they cheat. After that it will be a one-time only chance to play a fair blackjack game of 10 rounds with them where each round won reduces 20k from the total at the end. I suggest saving beforehand.
Indeed; blackjack is the only viable alternative of earning money at this point besides Prostitution, Dancing, and the Arena. If you want a virgin playthrough (as of v1.02), Dancing and Arena (and of course Blackjack) will do, but neither are completely translated yet (as of ENG v0.418c).
EDIT: nvm, ignore this spoiler'ed out bit. My sincerest apologies for the misinformation. I'll also change the blackjack dialogue to reflect this, as it was written on the erroneous assumption. m(__)m
However, I'd like to correct Kuro-san on one point: challenging Batil to his blackjack game isn't a one-time deal; you can actually try once per day (and each game is 10 rounds).
Ahh... I think I did talk to that one (one of the few untranslated dialogs I've seen, was unsure what it was about). I do have a no-reload policy (unless getting a gameover), but thank you very much for the information!
There's no shame in save-scumming, but you should have more than enough chances across 2-3 days to reduce the 200k deposit to a more affordable value through those blackjack games.
Also, I apologize about that bit at the Port/Harbor; I seem to have missed a small chunk of dialogue there (it was separated from the rest of the Port dialogues). Thank you guys for pointing it out; I'll have it translated in the next release.
However, I'd like to correct Kuro-san on one point: challenging Batil to his blackjack game isn't a one-time deal; you can actually try once per day (and each game is 10 rounds).
Uhh... well this is very embarrassing. Back when I was translating the blackjack dialogue, I somehow interpreted something from it that suggest repeatability, and I even distinctly remember testing the game to see if one really could repeat the blackjack game - and somehow, I was able to repeat it after going to bed and finishing up the day...
But having tested it again just now, with both translated v1.02 and untranslated v1.02 versions, I couldn't reproduce it (WTF? @.@). So I just spent an hour pouring over the scripts again and again to search for whatever might set the %bj string back to ==4 so that it triggers the challenge again, but couldn't...
And as it turns out, even if the day advancement part of the script did somehow return %bj to ==4, the blackjack dialogue would reset to act as though certain events never happened (even though they did). So with this bit of evidence, I can draw a pretty well founded conclusion: that I'm right in another universe, and I've been transported to this universe where I'm wrong. =.=
TL;DR: So even as jarring as it is, all I can draw from this is that I'm wrong - the blackjack deposit reduction challenge is indeed a one-time offer (re-reading through some of his untranslated dialogue, it's to apologize for him cheating); I'm eternally grateful of you compelling me to check through the blackjack script again. <x)
I'll have to amend some moderately misleading dialogue to reflect the truth of this (will be busy this week, Blade&Soul coming out, but it will make it into the upcoming release). You have my most deepest apologies and thanks.
Virgin playthrough won't happen (lost to a sandworm) but that doesn't mean I'm not trying my darnest to minimize those situations. Thanks for the tip about the blackjack: through my exceptional blackjack skills (ie. Luck) I got 160k reduction on first try and the remaining 40k are probably gettable at the arena before it's too late. I'd try the dancing but in these games it usually gets really, really bad instantly... but might if things turn bad on night 3.
Seriously impressed with the game overall. The story is actually touching and presented quite well, and there's tons of neat gameplay tricks and "puzzles" in the fights, from the healing spear to blasting yourself with a thunder spell to countering sleep. The game also seems to allow the player a turn or two to figure it out, and it lets you change gear midfight. And it's usually not a game over on loss. So nice. The time limit thing is also intriguing: For one I really want to save the princess, and taking too long probably means her going through very bad things. Which makes for really hard decisions for Luna (like the beggar for a desperate chance at information)... Risk one for the other. In a regular Rpg, no tension, since we know she'll save the princess and either be fine or die heroically. In this game, no guarantees for either the princess and her knight, and that depends on the decisions I take as the player...
That's the kind of things that only work in the confine of an h-game, and it's a benefit that extremely few games utilize. At least for me, that makes for an experience that can't happen in regular games. Too bad I can count on one hand the games that I feel are genuinely better because of the h-content... ah well, I'm just weird, don't mind me!
Again, thanks for the translation! It allows me to actually appreciate this game properly. Using a guide wouldn't be the same. Don't worry if there was a few tiny mistakes: there's far more right than wrong
Uhh... well this is very embarrassing. Back when I was translating the blackjack dialogue, I somehow interpreted something from it that suggest repeatability, and I even distinctly remember testing the game to see if one really could repeat the blackjack game - and somehow, I was able to repeat it after going to bed and finishing up the day...
But having tested it again just now, with both translated v1.02 and untranslated v1.02 versions, I couldn't reproduce it (WTF? @.@). So I just spent an hour pouring over the scripts again and again to search for whatever might set the %bj string back to ==4 so that it triggers the challenge again, but couldn't...
And as it turns out, even if the day advancement part of the script did somehow return %bj to ==4, the blackjack dialogue would reset to act as though certain events never happened (even though they did). So with this bit of evidence, I can draw a pretty well founded conclusion: that I'm right in another universe, and I've been transported to this universe where I'm wrong. =.=
TL;DR: So even as jarring as it is, all I can draw from this is that I'm wrong - the blackjack deposit reduction challenge is indeed a one-time offer (re-reading through some of his untranslated dialogue, it's to apologize for him cheating); I'm eternally grateful of you compelling me to check through the blackjack script again. <x)
I'll have to amend some moderately misleading dialogue to reflect the truth of this (will be busy this week, Blade&Soul coming out, but it will make it into the upcoming release). You have my most deepest apologies and thanks.
No worries. Actually I was just trying to find out more so that I might use it in future playthroughs. But glad I was able to be of some help even if indirectly.
Virgin playthrough won't happen (lost to a sandworm) but that doesn't mean I'm not trying my darnest to minimize those situations. Thanks for the tip about the blackjack: through my exceptional blackjack skills (ie. Luck) I got 160k reduction on first try and the remaining 40k are probably gettable at the arena before it's too late. I'd try the dancing but in these games it usually gets really, really bad instantly... but might if things turn bad on night 3.
Virgin playthrough won't happen (lost to a sandworm) but that doesn't mean I'm not trying my darnest to minimize those situations. Thanks for the tip about the blackjack: through my exceptional blackjack skills (ie. Luck) I got 160k reduction on first try and the remaining 40k are probably gettable at the arena before it's too late. I'd try the dancing but in these games it usually gets really, really bad instantly... but might if things turn bad on night 3.
There's a golden scorpion on one square of the desert that will always spawn, you need the quick cast passive and thunder bolt in the first slot, but it will always give you like 20k each time, then you leave and come back and do it. Since time doesn't pass till you enter town again, you could pretty much make all of the money you need for the entire game in one afternoon. It's not really sexy, but it's efficient.
As far the tile in question, I believe etigoya linked a screenshot in his walkthrough, but it's been buried pretty far back in the thread and I can't remember the page number anymore. I do remember where the tile itself is at least.
There's a golden scorpion on one square of the desert that will always spawn, you need the quick cast passive and thunder bolt in the first slot, but it will always give you like 20k each time, then you leave and come back and do it. Since time doesn't pass till you enter town again, you could pretty much make all of the money you need for the entire game in one afternoon. It's not really sexy, but it's efficient.
As far the tile in question, I believe etigoya linked a screenshot in his walkthrough, but it's been buried pretty far back in the thread and I can't remember the page number anymore. I do remember where the tile itself is at least.
I actually did remember the gold scorpion spawn location (mostly) when I encountered it. I didn't think of any way to catch it though due to the instant fleeing, but then I don't have the quickcast passive so I guess I can be excused How do you get that one? Pure leveling?
I actually did remember the gold scorpion spawn location (mostly) when I encountered it. I didn't think of any way to catch it though due to the instant fleeing, but then I don't have the quickcast passive so I guess I can be excused How do you get that one? Pure leveling?
Quickcast + lightning on the correct slot is all that's required. If the lightning doesn't kill in the first instance, get another 1-2 levels to make it strong enough to insta-kill the scorpion. The scorpion doesn't attack so there's no risk of getting killed in that battle.
There are actually multiple tiles which spawn the scorpion, since the hint from the person who talks about it mentions a specific geological feature which indicates where the gold scorpion hides.
There's a golden scorpion on one square of the desert that will always spawn, you need the quick cast passive and thunder bolt in the first slot, but it will always give you like 20k each time, then you leave and come back and do it. Since time doesn't pass till you enter town again, you could pretty much make all of the money you need for the entire game in one afternoon. It's not really sexy, but it's efficient.
As far the tile in question, I believe etigoya linked a screenshot in his walkthrough, but it's been buried pretty far back in the thread and I can't remember the page number anymore. I do remember where the tile itself is at least.
I'd guess with 75% certainty that they'll come in a future updated version (say, v1.03, v1.05, etc). The game's scripts suggest at a lot of unimplemented/incomplete content. It'd be odd to make his customers buy a separate, extended version (unless it comes at a significantly cheaper price, like what Beelzebub does), if that's what you're suggesting.
As I recall, running out of time takes you to a special game over screen where you can go back to an earlier day but keep whatever progress and money you have. If there are any drawbacks to doing this they were never noticeable to me, so I wouldn't worry too much about the time limit.
As I recall, running out of time takes you to a special game over screen where you can go back to an earlier day but keep whatever progress and money you have. If there are any drawbacks to doing this they were never noticeable to me, so I wouldn't worry too much about the time limit.
