Patreon SIM Unknown/Hiatus RPG Maker [Sid Valentine] Cohabitation

[dardamex]

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Yup, it worked... but when the event finished I've got a black screen.

Forgot to add 'Fadein Screen' to the end... yet again. Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[Abelius]

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Anyway, I've hit a mental roadblock of sorts -- I can't really figure out what the stage between the current innocent touching and groping should be. During this period you'll be able to kiss her but I'm not really sure what else to do to smoothly transition into groping.

I take you mean dropping your hand to her breasts in TV event and moving your hand to her ass in study event...?

Well, the kiss event is pretty more hot already than any first kiss have the right to be! She's a really sensitive girl if she can get off by a kiss and some ass groping...

So you already have the key there, actually. After that episode the uncle could simply ask her how she liked that and have her expose her feelings about her first orgasm (?). And that could led to a conversation about how being touched feels good and that, right?

In fact, the excuse for the kiss already puts the uncle in a role of a 'sex coach' of sorts. Well, at the same time she obviously needs to be reluctant to continue exploring things for which she doesn't feel prepared. After all she only agreed to the kiss because she liked that boy and doesn't want to be dumped by him. So the uncle should direct his efforts at convince her to do more things that "Just in case you don't know, every guy loves them... not that I particularly want to do them with you, my own niece, of course! But I think I should sacrifice myself and teach them to you, so that boy don't dump you for a random slut... You should show him that not only you love him with your heart but also with your body...!"

Well, something in those lines, you know.

Aaaand... at the same time we should still be able to do things that if she were to discover would tell her that her uncle is not the selfless individual he appears to be. That is...: spy on her when changing, washing in the shower, and of course grope her in completely inappropriate ways when she's sleeping. Not fucking her of course, because she's supposed to be a virgin and it would be a waste if you take her virginity when she's sleeping (and she'd most probably wake up, scream and game over). And when she finally agrees to be fucked for the first time... well, it doesn't make much sense afterwards to fuck her sleeping unless you do that to wake her up and continue with her permission.

In any case don't drop the evil manipulation fetish. The fact that she slowly agrees to make more daring things shouldn't be an excuse to forget that the uncle is basically a grooming molester and views her as a sex doll, not as a loved pupil that needs to be taught in the fine arts of lovemaking and maybe become her girlfriend.

Well, I clearly picture her viewing herself as that, but the uncle couldn't care less as long as he has his personal fuck toy for free.

 

[dardamex]

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Well, the kiss event is pretty more hot already than any first kiss have the right to be! She's a really sensitive girl if she can get off by a kiss and some ass groping...

I wrote that after having been up for 18 hours and with the blood flowing to places other than my head at the time, so it turned out a tad bit more lewd than I had originally envisioned it. Still, I think it turned out for the best -- it shows how sensitive Megan is, introduces her to the pleasure that Calvin can give her, and works as a decent reward for all the stat grinding.

In fact, the excuse for the kiss already puts the uncle in a role of a 'sex coach' of sorts.

Yeah, this was my plan from the beginning. Before I really began making this I knew I needed some sort of 'in' that would prompt her to start a relationship with her uncle. I didn't want to go the blackmail route with this game so instead I decided that he'd pretty much talk her into believing that in order for boys to like her she'd have to get good at all kind of sex stuff.

In any case don't drop the evil manipulation fetish. The fact that she slowly agrees to make more daring things shouldn't be an excuse to forget that the uncle is basically a grooming molester and views her as a sex doll, not as a loved pupil that needs to be taught in the fine arts of lovemaking and maybe become her girlfriend.

Well, I clearly picture her viewing herself as that, but the uncle couldn't care less as long as he has his personal fuck toy for free.

Ha, yeah, you basically read my mind here. I might do a high affection ending where he realizes he has some softer feelings for her beyond just pleasure but beyond that this is basically about a guy convincing a Kate Upton looking woman to become his sex slave.

Anywho, I think what I'll do for the 'in between innocent touching and groping' stage is have them sorta cuddle on the couch (i.e. she leans on him, allowing him to put his hand on her waist) and give her a back massage on the bed after doing school work. Then, after you've also done a few kissing sessions with her and you get your stats to a certain point, a 'progression' event will trigger that involves them talking about her getting pleasure from his touching, which will lead to the first groping scene. I think I'll also unlock the ability to take her to the mall during this point too.

v0.29

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- This should hopefully fix all current reported bugs.
- I replaced the title picture, the sleeping groping pictures, and the sleeping masturbation pictures with updated ones.

Finally, as I was messing with those above pictures I got kinda bored doing fairly innocuous scenes, so I made some actual sex ones.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[juzotogo]

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I really like the Illusion Models, I might just have to look into posing with them, see how it is. Right now I'm mostly using XNALARA, which is descent.

Love these two spoiler images, just makes me look forward to what's going to come.

For other simple ideas, maybe simple things that get rid of her shyness, like dropping juice on her pants and having her take them off so you can wash them, keeping her in underwear, though the room is so close... hard to make believable, unless the washer machine is broken and all her clothing is soiled.
Could drop juice on her shirt and quickly fumble to wipe it, touching her breast. "innocently"

Someone mentions a porn search forgotten on the computer, could also be forgetting an adult video in the DVD player.

I mentioned the uncle could need a message, maybe she could use one.
Maybe some of her homework would be biology class O_O or even sex ed.
"Magen I forgot to grab my towel, I'm in the shower, can you bring it to me."

Megan I accidentally swallowed viagra, I need a hand, we can't afford that I to go the the doctors. (ok it's cheesy, but so is scripts for pornos)

Just trowing ideas around.
Maybe her friend comes over and they talk about sex, but her friend is more promiscuous them her. Then when the friend is gone, give her a basic sex education class, teach her the important stuff.
Maybe her friend wants to do a sleep over <_< (awkward)

 

[Abelius]

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I wrote that after having been up for 18 hours and with the blood flowing to places other than my head at the time

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Anywho, I think what I'll do for the 'in between innocent touching and groping' stage is have them sorta cuddle on the couch (i.e. she leans on him, allowing him to put his hand on her waist) and give her a back massage on the bed after doing school work. Then, after you've also done a few kissing sessions with her and you get your stats to a certain point, a 'progression' event will trigger that involves them talking about her getting pleasure from his touching, which will lead to the first groping scene. I think I'll also unlock the ability to take her to the mall during this point too.

I like it because thinking about it twice, lowering his hand to her breasts and ass would be going to far at this stage. Well done at not rushing things, again.

v0.29
- I replaced the title picture, the sleeping groping pictures, and the sleeping masturbation pictures with updated ones.

The open shirt groping one is definitely much better now with that perspective, but you may have forgot to update the closed one as well (?). Because the camera is at the same angle as before.

On another note and just out of curiosity... do you need to render those images with the software you're using? Or are they captured just as they are already in the poser?

"Magen I forgot to grab my towel, I'm in the shower, can you bring it to me."

I specially like this. It's plausible enough when she's almost ready to accept seeing his uncle nude, but not already there. I mean, the inverted voyeurism fetish from her part when she starts to feel infatuated by her uncle, sole provider of her first pleasures even if the guy is not exactly Brad Pitt.

And later on he could use the episode to use less clothes around her (in the room only, of course), casually telling her that "C'mon girl, you've seen me naked already and I didn't bite you, right...?". This could be used to increase her lust.

A little risque admittedly because her parents could enter the room, and even if they knock on the door beforehand out of respect for Megan's privacy (she's the one closest to the door), he would need to dress quickly and she would realize that her uncle being almost nude in her room was not so 'normal in this summer's heat' as he said...

 

[boyo111]

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Updates and fixes are nice, though I find it jarring that any meal I make for Megan is breakfast and the conversation (in the evening as well) talks about what she will do today.

Love the model for her and if you keep it up with the corruption build, and the sex coach uncle, you should get to where you want.

Good luck and nice game!

 

[dardamex]

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The open shirt groping one is definitely much better now with that perspective, but you may have forgot to update the closed one as well (?). Because the camera is at the same angle as before.

On another note and just out of curiosity... do you need to render those images with the software you're using? Or are they captured just as they are already in the poser?

For the closed shirt one the angle is the same but I tweaked the lighting and put in Megan's new character model (though you probably can't tell with that scene since most of the changes are on her lower body and face). I wanted to make the exposed one more revealing than the other as a sort of reward for the added risk.

There's no rendering required. I load my map, load in my characters, pose them, and then capture the image. The actual posing, though, often drives me insane. Wrists in particular like to become uncooperative and bend into weird pretzel shapes that I have to hide via the camera angle.

I specially like this. It's plausible enough when she's almost ready to accept seeing his uncle nude, but not already there. I mean, the inverted voyeurism fetish from her part when she starts to feel infatuated by her uncle, sole provider of her first pleasures even if the guy is not exactly Brad Pitt.

I could probably use this. Make it a one-off event that happens when Calvin takes a shower and Megan's lewdness is at a certain level.

And later on he could use the episode to use less clothes around her (in the room only, of course), casually telling her that "C'mon girl, you've seen me naked already and I didn't bite you, right...?". This could be used to increase her lust.

A little risque admittedly because her parents could enter the room, and even if they knock on the door beforehand out of respect for Megan's privacy (she's the one closest to the door), he would need to dress quickly and she would realize that her uncle being almost nude in her room was not so 'normal in this summer's heat' as he said...

I guess I could maybe do something similar to this during the night. Give the player the option to go to bed naked with Calvin then acting like he's forgotten something on Megan's side of the room, thus walking around in front of her naked.

Updates and fixes are nice, though I find it jarring that any meal I make for Megan is breakfast and the conversation (in the evening as well) talks about what she will do today.

Love the model for her and if you keep it up with the corruption build, and the sex coach uncle, you should get to where you want.

Good luck and nice game!

Yeah, I really need to put some work into the kitchen events. I've known I need to for a while but they're not the most exciting thing to work on so I keep putting it off.

 

[Manamana]

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Not interested in deleting the Studio logo picture, I guess?

There's no rendering required. I load my map, load in my characters, pose them, and then capture the image. The actual posing, though, often drives me insane. Wrists in particular like to become uncooperative and bend into weird pretzel shapes that I have to hide via the camera angle.

Do you use any Studio enhancement mod? I'm not an expert on Studio (more like a scene lurker/voyeur), but it seems to make some things better

 

[dardamex]

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Not interested in deleting the Studio logo picture, I guess?

I actually tried following the instructions in that post but it ended up messing up the studio real bad. I probably did something wrong but I don't know what.

Do you use any Studio enhancement mod? I'm not an expert on Studio (more like a scene lurker/voyeur), but it seems to make some things better

Yeah, I've started using some poser enhancement mods recently. The problem with them, though, is that once you activate them then whatever pose you made with the default posing options get messed up.

 

[Manamana]

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I actually tried following the instructions in that post but it ended up messing up the studio real bad. I probably did something wrong but I don't know what.

Really, worked no problem for me though.I think you probably deleted another file somewhere?
Sorry about that
If you want, send me your sharedassets1.assets from your Studio 32 or 64 bits folder. I can do it for you.

Yeah, I've started using some poser enhancement mods recently. The problem with them, though, is that once you activate them then whatever pose you made with the default posing options get messed up.

Oh, OK. Because these mods seem to really simplify things for the people using them.

 

[Abelius]

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Yeah, I've started using some poser enhancement mods recently. The problem with them, though, is that once you activate them then whatever pose you made with the default posing options get messed up.

By what you say it seems to me that this poser is a little dreadful...

But I'm also a little bored of seeing new games using DAZ and its annoyingly beautiful (and expensive) models. Not that they trigger my uncanny valley sense, of course, but I actually prefer more japanese-style characters to look at. And Megan sure is really pleasant to my senses.

My only reservations are about the engine you've chosen. RPGMaker MV is still very limited at which resolutions you can show and in terms of game mechanics. And worst of all... you can't reliably use Cheat Engine to have your way!! Which is useful when a game is still in development, you know...

My personal favorite is Unity. You can do with it everything you can possibly want for an amateur game and is not half that complex as people think. Even Ren'py could get more difficult to dive into for a newbie. And with plugins like PlayMaker you don't even need to know anything about C# or JavaScript.

Anyway... your game, your rules.

 

[dardamex]

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Really, worked no problem for me though.I think you probably deleted another file somewhere?
Sorry about that
If you want, send me your sharedassets1.assets from your Studio 32 or 64 bits folder. I can do it for you.

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Oh, OK. Because these mods seem to really simplify things for the people using them.

They really do. It's just I'm sorta lazy, so what I do is load one of the studio's pre-made poses for the character and modify that but activating one of the poser mod plugins tends to reset some of the joints thus messing up the pose. The latest update to one of the poser mods makes it a lot more easier to use than the default poser controls so I'll probably start just using that from now on.

By what you say it seems to me that this poser is a little dreadful...

Illusion is a really weird developer when it comes to designing stuff. With each new game they put out it always feels like 'one step forward, two steps back'.

As for different engines, I doubt I'll ever switch to anything other than a different version of RPG Maker. I've been using it since XP way back in 2005. The reason I went with MV is because getting it to run in high resolutions is much easier than with VX Ace, which requires a modified .dll file that tends to mess with performance. If I ever do a regular RPG I'll probably go back to using VX Ace; I really don't like the look of MV when you make regular games with it.

 

[Manamana]

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Try that one and tell me :

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They really do. It's just I'm sorta lazy, so what I do is load one of the studio's pre-made poses for the character and modify that but activating one of the poser mod plugins tends to reset some of the joints thus messing up the pose. The latest update to one of the poser mods makes it a lot more easier to use than the default poser controls so I'll probably start just using that from now on.

OK

 

[dardamex]

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Try that one and tell me :

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Thanks, it works. I wonder what I screwed up when I did it.

Anywho, right now I'm working on:
- Adding in new kitchen scenes.
- Adding in items and their associated scenes (i.e. planting cams in the shower)
- Adding the repeatable kissing scene, new couch scene, and new home work one.
- Adding the groping progression event.
- Getting the mall location ready.

Unless anyone finds bugs or other problems in the current version I probably won't upload a new one until I get a good chunk of the above done.

Also, the implementation of the mall also means adding in the favor point system, so if anyone has any ideas for favors I'm open to them.

 

[Abelius]

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Also, the implementation of the mall also means adding in the favor point system, so if anyone has any ideas for favors I'm open to them.

You could get some ideas from Akabur's Witch Trainer. Not copying them letter by letter, of course, but something along those lines. It's not a bad example for corruption progression and he organized the favors in private and public events.

Exhibitionism for starters would be a good idea. A lot of potential there, like making her dress a little sluttier (to increase lewdness) or banning her from wearing panties that day (for lust).

I know you don't want to invest the time at this stage in making a wardrobe system, due to the added complexity of needing to allow for multiple scene combinations, but controlling Megan's way of dressing is a one sure way to tell the player he's getting inside her cute head already. Just give it a thought.

You could also use those points to make her do house chores in your name, like taking out the trash or cleaning the bathroom... and I can imagine that some special events could even be created for this last one, right?

 

[Manamana]

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Thanks, it works. I wonder what I screwed up when I did it.

Good!
Don't hesitate to ask again if you patch the game and the logo is back after.

Also, the implementation of the mall also means adding in the favor point system, so if anyone has any ideas for favors I'm open to them.

Early events are the most important but the most difficult. What about :
- her giving you money?
- events like helping wash your back in the bathroom?
- her telling you things about her (non)sex/love life? It could trigger some events later for example.
- events like going together window-shopping ? From simple clothes shopping to lingerie shopping ? (they doesn't need to buy here, it's just "trying clothes" events). How about buying you condoms because you don't have the time to do that ? Or listening to you and begin taking the pill (so you can cum inside later without worry) ?
- her accepting suspicious looking pills from you ? Like arousing pills disgused as energy pills, or sleeping pills?
- her accepting surveillance cameras in the house ? This would generate voyeur risk free scenes I suppose.
- making her read fashion then lewd magazines to educate her?

You could get some ideas from Akabur's Witch Trainer. Not copying them letter by letter, of course, but something along those lines. It's not a bad example for corruption progression and he organized the favors in private and public events.

Yeah, it's good, although just a little too lusty from the beginning.

I know you don't want to invest the time at this stage in making a wardrobe system, due to the added complexity of needing to allow for multiple scene combinations, but controlling Megan's way of dressing is a one sure way to tell the player he's getting inside her cute head already. Just give it a thought.

He can also have a linear clothing system (meaning no choice, or just a few) without going full wardrobe , as a way to advance how daring her clothing are.

 

[dardamex]

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You could get some ideas from Akabur's Witch Trainer. Not copying them letter by letter, of course, but something along those lines. It's not a bad example for corruption progression and he organized the favors in private and public events.

I have been meaning to replay this. Have you tried out of the modded ones? I'm curious as to know which one is the most complete.

He can also have a linear clothing system (meaning no choice, or just a few) without going full wardrobe , as a way to advance how daring her clothing are.

This could actually work. The problem, though, is that there isn't really any tops I find as alluring as her current button-down one. There's the camisole but though it shows more skin overall it actually shows less cleavage than her current shirt. The only one I think could work is the un-buttoned, front-knotted blouse, though that one's a bit of a leap from her current shirt.

I do like the idea of updating her clothes (she looks great in those really small cut-up jean shorts) but I dread the idea of making scene variations for the different clothes, so the idea of a linear, non-changeable update works well. I just need to find a good look for her.

Finally, there's two other things I'd like help with, though I'm not sure if anyone can:
1) A wearable condom mod for HoneySelect. I have a mod that adds in used and tied-off condoms as items but not one I can actually put on Calvin that makes it look like he's wearing one.
2) A way to add an internal / x-ray cut-in of a vagina and womb during sex scenes with varying levels of being cum filled and a dick ejaculating inside. This doesn't have to actually be tied to HoneySelect at all; something I can edit onto pictures would work. If I'm explaining this poorly, look at 'Teaching Feel' for an example of the various cut-ins I'm talking about.

Neither of those two things are vital and there are ways I can work around them, so no worries if no one can help.

 

[bdk]

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i hve tried one of the previous version and i want to say ,what a fine game that would be when finish)

the geral idea is cool with being stuck with the niece,why a not in the incest thing ^^.

the visual hook me directly what a good art. the the corrupt thing is a classic ,a must xD and like you said ;the best thing in this king of game is not when sh's a fucking whore but when she's an akward position ,you have to keep this shit straigh!

the thing is ,there need to be a cloth system ,with the corruption .you buy cloth and when she is more or less corrupt u can ask her to ben in one of the sets. i relly whant to try ur last version ,without the bug i have with black screen when i reterned form kitchen. is there a mega of ur last? ty for your work der gentleman

 

[dardamex]

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i relly whant to try ur last version ,without the bug i have with black screen when i reterned form kitchen. is there a mega of ur last? ty for your work der gentleman

The latest version is v0.29, which you can find in the first post of this thread. Are you using that version? I can't seem to find anything wrong with the kitchen events now. Is anyone else still having any troubles with the kitchen?

 

[bdk]

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no i'm not using this version , i will download this one ,thank you