Re: [Nutaku] Shooting Girl
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where is that reliable source that darted brought up that stated that RTS elements get unlocked in the game? cus until I see that the game is nothing but clicking 1 button and u win.
RTS? Real time strategy? Nah, I have to disagree on this. Its not an rts since its not in real time but the strategy element exist.
First off who do you you think won in this fight?
The winner was the one on the left. Notice how lvl 40 and 10 has not much differentiation in hp. This also brings up the point of still losing in 3-3 after a week but I'll quote on that later.
He won cause the set up on the right is awful. SGMS/LGMS is no good in this fight and to make maters worse, he choose a lower ACC formation to an already low ACC unit hence this was pretty much an easy win for the lower lvl person.
Ofc, the person on the right is not a real person, probably a pre-made team. Also, no equipment. I don't think at this time, things like 20% bonus armor exists so we are able to win right now.
shooting girl also does not have REAL PVP, your claiming otherwise so prove it to me now. its on you to back up what you say with facts and evidence just like I do.
Its an rpg whether the two of you like it or not, wanna believe it or not, or don't wanna admit that I'm correct or not, RPG LAW applies to shooting girl.
pvp elements. Pvp means player vs player. Its a little different for this game. Its gonna be player team vs player team but not in real time. Hopefully in the future they will provide us with a feature where we can see our matches against players. They already have replays so it could happen.
Here, uploaded a match with Drgn
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While its not your typical pvp where both players are present, the winner will be the one with the better set up obviously. Eventually within 3 months, they can be outplayed by gear like any other game.
A few things to look at. I can ctrl my units using the strategies you gain as u lvl. For example, my AR's are sticking together, my HG is rushing out, and I have my SG tanking. Ofc I set my sniper in the back. You can tell her to go north or south and aim at someone specific on the other side if things go according to plan. My SG however is too far down and wasn't a good tank here so next time I'll put her at the top formation. If she was there, I might have gotten a better rank, possibly an S.
The formation set up increases sniper range, eva on my HG and I decided to avoid the panels that give +- stats in the middle formations cause I felt lowering def wasn't a good idea.
I feel being able to see how you set up what your girls to do and see if they win is the fun factor in this auto match up. RNG plays a big role which makes things a bit interesting. Unfortunately as you see in the vid, my HG unit died from a crit. If it wasn't a crit, I might have been able to absorb some dmg with her high eva and skill (her skill has a chance of lowering acc).
It may of even been better to have 2 SG's while the dps dmgs from a distance instead of relying on eva. But yea, as you can see, we're about even in lvl but things didn't go well for Drng (not that lvl matters too much).
edit - oh, didn't talk about my opponent. His mistake was using 2 HG's and 2 SMGS. Ofc, at this lvl, its possible that rng failed him/her and he/she didn't draw any other units from the gatcha.
take a unit to end game then u take that same unit back to the start of the game or in this case mission 3-3 and that unit will solo that mission that's just how rpgs work. There's no difficulty level whats so ever its purely time you spend.
I said I was going to quote you on this. 1 unit won't be able to do anything no matter how strong they are. again, lvl 40, same hp and you can probably increase your eva but a sniper bullet will still hurt. You will still need a team to beat 3-3. The RNG is also funny on here. I had a 99% chance to dodge but I still got hit (I've only seen it happen once). In other words, if you set up 1 unit to have high eva, your only chance of winning is luck. You won't be able to 1 hit anyone at lvl 40 either. so these snipers will get off...... 60 shots before this 1 unit will be able to kill them off. Assuming you use a close range unit, even longer since the snipers will back up and shoot while you try to run towards them 1 panel at a time. In other words, you won't hit them till they are backed up to the very top right/bottom right of the map.
What sets apart lvl 40 and lvl 10's will be equipment and the amount of anri's used on characters. for ex, 1 anri can give you +50 hp (rare drops). There is one for 100 hp but even harder to find. I'm sure if u played mmos you know how hard it is to grind for a rare item. In this case its only for 100 hp.
Your claim that you can get to the end and come back with one unit to win is incorrect. Ofc its will be easier when you have your whole team on 3-3.
Here is my win on 3-3 -
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I also want to complain about why quest missions move slower then the practice mode against player teams. Because of that, the video is long. As you can see, my EVA on Kyoko is quite high. If it not for her, I would of lost. But rng won't let me last forever. And ofc, the fight ended up at the top right as I said.
You can test my law out your self, how many times did u even clear mission 3-3? did u just do it once? and never tried it again?
well I guarantee you if you go back to mission 3-3 once a week it will get easier and easier and easier to beat.
No kidding. It gets easier if you change your set up obviously but not rly from lvling. You reach 3-3 at lvl.... 5? 8? don't remember. People still can't beat it at lvl 15. It takes days to get from 8 to 15. The reason I won is due to eva bonus, and the fact that I was lucky to draw a 4 star HG. Without her, I honestly don't know what I would of done. Maybe gone 2 tanks (SG's) get the SG's to take the shots. Add some long range anti vests for extra def. But they aren't stupid, they won't just aim for your tanks.
eventually you'll have a unit that will be able to solo that mission. That's as simple as I can explain it and that's the last time I'm gonna explain it to either of you, and most likely both of you still wont get it or just refuse to admit it.
again, incorrect, already proved it. However, what you say is correct about most rpgs and mmos. Your also correct to say that its easier once you lvl higher, just not as easy for this game.
the game isn't complex at all you can figure it out just from watching a few game play videos and already having a reference for these types of games which aren't console games btw flash fucking games that's what shooting girl is a flash game its not the only one of its kind there's countless games that are carbon copies that shooting girl most likely took some inspiration from.
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There is nothing wrong with using flash as a basis for game development. Its not about what software is used, its about how fun the game is. For example, between the amazing looking black desert online that I have and this, I'd rather play this. other games I prefer over BDO is mercs, that old game on genesis, I even prefer playing tetris or more modern, blackops/call of duty,halo, etc. BDO just isn't a good game. Thats my opinion. I reapeat, my opinion. I respect yours, respect mine and we'll be a ok from now on.
ill go back to some of those old sites and pull up a few examples it wont be that simple cus there's like thousands and thousands of new games and shit now assuming any of those old flash game sites are even still around.
Newgrounds has to still be around and they 100% have at least 100 shooting girl type games.
There was one that I liked a bit back in the day but it was wit like bows and arrows and swords and shit but still basically the same fucking game.
No need.
Conclusion, its not a simple 1 button click game, it requires more depth. You can't go end game and go back to 3-3 and win with one unit (proved it as the lvl 10 beat the lvl 40 team), pvp element does exist, just not in the normal sense of it being in real time, and its not an rts, but it does have strategy elements.
Now then, all of this is just how I feel about the game. Its not the best game, but it is fun. For me from time to time, I like to take a break from all the competition that Elsword, street fighter, super smash bros give and just play something more simple.
sigh, ended up being long and took longer then usual but out of respect for actually staying on topic, I did this for you. No disrespect in here at all so I expect the same treatment now that I'm giving you a chance. Honestly I didn't have to prove anything cause u never even gave the game a try. Again, out of respect, I answered you. Also, please do not come to discord and cause trouble again.
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