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Finished calculating the dragon fang drop-rates for all of the maps. The difference between red and green dragon is nearly negligible with red dragon having slightly better fang to stamina ratio, whereas green dragon has a much stronger fang to charisma ratio. This is good news for me, since I need at least 3 more copies of Cecily so I can awaken Charlotte, Mehlis, and Chloe in the future, and 2 copies of Daniella to awaken Noel.

Green Dragon:
Dragon Fangs Per Stamina: 1.625; Per Charisma: 0.1625; Per Day: (Min: 30; Max: 48; Average: 39)

Red Dragon:
Dragon Fangs Per Stamina: 1.64; Per Charisma: 0.136; Per Day: (Min: 24; Max: 43.2; Average: 39.36)
 

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Woah, that is really good new since 60/5 is much harder and i need more archer than rogue to CC my unit. :D
 

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I would suggest just getting 25 dragon claws and call it a day. What's the point of going after her if you don't even liker her? I mean, this isn't Karma, who's a black rarity unit.

千年戦争アイギス 竜殺しの剣:田園の双竜 神級 (白1覚無)



53 I believe. For a black rarity unit, it was actually worth it. For a platinum, hell no.
Isn't Karma also had a Platinum as Vampire Princess Karma ?

Maybe Claudia like Karma will be come Black unit later ?
 

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Of course since we don't know how powerful she is even without the passive magic pen, I can't just ignore her. I know they do it intentionally to get people to spend more, but oh well. A girl from this type of event hasn't been weak so far.
 

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Claudia is by Inoshishi, who also plays this game (Inoshishi did the illustrations for Hina and Crissa, though Inoshishi only has Hina, and not Crissa the last time I checked twitter). It's kind of funny how all of Inoshishi's characters can deal true damage (defence/magic penetration). Though, as far as Claudia is concerned, her worthiness depends completely on whether she also deals 1.2x damage with her skill. Magic Resistance penetration isn't that great compared to the 1.5x damage multiplier of Sherry unless the opponent has 40% magic resistance. If Claudia can also deal 1.2x more damage, then she would be equal/superior to Sherry against 20% magic resistance opponents.

In any case, I got 3-stars on all of the maps:


I'm really starting to like Ricca. She's my favourite unit for dealing with those black goblin archer scumbags.

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@arisato minato:
During the Karma event, they were explicit about Vampiric Princess Karma becoming Immortal Princess Karma if you collected enough blood vials. Claudia is going to stick as a platinum unit the same as Lian. Though, this time they're more generous for those working their way up. Unlike Lian where you got the extra goodies if you were crazy enough to go over her scroll limit, you're going to get either a fairy, a gold armour, or a platinum armour every 45 fangs you get for this event (you can check your dragon fang menu to see which of these you're working towards; I'm working towards a gold armour at the moment).
 
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Based on her lore i say she can only has attack bonus again Dragon-type unit.

Maybe Claudia is a way the developer give new player a chance again dragon type enemies in the upcoming second half of Dragon princess event.


Using a Dragon=Slaying Princess to get a Dragon Princess. the irony :eek:
 

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The good thing is that she's easy to get. The bad thing is that I really don't want to spend all my crystals to get her minimum cost and stuff.

It's good that they make her easy to get at least for collection though.
 

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A girl from this type of event hasn't been weak so far.
I would like to refer to a certain strategist Lian, who is still considered an useless unit by my standards. It's only after AW she finally becomes a somewhat useful unit.
Pre-AW Lian is ranked as one of the most useless unit in game, giving a fight against pre-HP affection boost/pre-AW Carry.

Compared that to the Noodle Bowl ... Aigis? Balance? What's that?
 

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Added the 45x rewards to the post in my signature (up to 765 fangs). These are the notable extra things that you would get from your fangs if you were to farm this event relatively normal up to 700:
4 Platinum Armours
2 Platinum Fairies
2 Black Fairies
1 Rainbow Fairy

I keep feeling tempted to do premium summons for Ur, since all of the other chance+ units are also good ones I wouldn't mind having. But I know that 3x chance up is a trap for platinum units. Only 7 of out of 20 simulations came out with Ur appearing under 20,000JPY, so the odds are against me even if I'm willing to fork over everything...
 

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Can the rarity sorting be reversed somehow??

I want quick access to the irons to be fed, not the black fairies XD
 

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I would like to refer to a certain strategist Lian, who is still considered an useless unit by my standards. It's only after AW she finally becomes a somewhat useful unit.
Pre-AW Lian is ranked as one of the most useless unit in game, giving a fight against pre-HP affection boost/pre-AW Carry.

Compared that to the Noodle Bowl ... Aigis? Balance? What's that?
Yeah I forgot she was one of the girls from this type of event. I haven't even touched Lian...
 

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I would like to refer to a certain strategist Lian, who is still considered an useless unit by my standards. It's only after AW she finally becomes a somewhat useful unit.
Pre-AW Lian is ranked as one of the most useless unit in game, giving a fight against pre-HP affection boost/pre-AW Carry.

Compared that to the Noodle Bowl ... Aigis? Balance? What's that?
I've never seen red noodle bowls before but laughed rather hard when I saw her :p And I'd say Lian is pretty useful post AW... Admittedly a lot to invest in an unit you can't really use until AW...
 

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I keep feeling tempted to do premium summons for Ur, since all of the other chance+ units are also good ones I wouldn't mind having. But I know that 3x chance up is a trap for platinum units. Only 7 of out of 20 simulations came out with Ur appearing under 20,000JPY, so the odds are against me even if I'm willing to fork over everything...
What did you use to simulating gatcha spin ?

@Tieskey: Me too. I wish together with sort by rarety, we also can choose either highest to lowest or vice versa.
 

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What did you use to simulating gatcha spin?
People generally use this thing as a visual aid to fight against the temptation:


Roughly, you would have to spend 43,200JPY to get a specific chance-up platinum unit.

Premium Gacha:
Normally Without Chance-Up:
Silver: 50%/22: 2.27% (1/44)
Gold: 37%/25: 1.48% (1/67)
Platinum: 10%/28: 0.35% (1/280)
Black: 3%/11: 0.27% (1/370)

Chance-Up Units:
Gold: 4.44% (1/22)
Platinum: 1.05% (1/95)
Black: 0.81% (1/123)

One Chance-Up Unit Within 22/44/66/88/110 Summons:
Plat: 20.72%/37.15%/50.17%/60.50%/68.68%
Black: 16.38%/30.08%/41.53%/51.11%/59.12%

EDIT:
Updated the post in my signature with more dragon fang rewards (up to 1080). And colour-coded the list to make the relevant things easier to spot.
 
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Roughly, you would have to spend 43,200JPY to get a specific chance-up platinum unit.
43,200 is roughly 430 USD. That is nearly half a monthly salary for a white collar office worker in my place. :eek:

btw: 3 Stars 100/2 map with only 1 Plat unit is Sedis. It a close victory though.
 

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Low rarity/unit 60/5:



Love you Nasu. I knew it was just about proper placement but couldn't perfect it in my few runs so far.
 

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Added more extra rewards for collecting dragon fangs (up to 1575).

Basically, if someone wants to max out Claudia, that person will also get the following on top of whatever they farmed on the emergency mission maps:
Platinum Fairy: 7
Black Fairy: 5
Rainbow Fairy: 2
Platinum Armour: 8

Red Dragon has a platinum armour rate of 0.48 a day versus 0.8 of the high-tier Monday map. However, Red Dragon gives 192 spare charisma, so a rank 140+ Prince can easily do 3 additional trips with a sacred crystal to bring that up to 0.78 plat armours a day.
 

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I wouldn't farm the event using crystals until the 2nd week in case they'll be adding new maps. The plat armors alone kind of make it worth maxing her. Black fairies are a plus as well. I still haven't used any of my rainbow fairies, so they're piled up. Maybe I'll finally just have to use them. I was waiting till I had a chance to use my dragons on Desupia for skill ups first, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon :p
 
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I wouldn't farm the event using crystals until the 2nd week in case they'll be adding new maps.
Just a refresher on the approximate amount of stamina needed to max the units for the previous and current collection events:
Karma:
First Phase: 1220
Second Phase: 540
The second phase introduced the 10-vial drop, which was depicted on the event information page during the first phase.

Lian:
First Phase: 992
Second Phase: 858
There were only 1, 2, and 3 scroll drops, which were all depicted on the event information page during the first phase.

Claudia:
First Phase: 910
Second Phase: ? (787 if same as Lian, 402 if same as Karma.)
There's only the 1 and 5 fang drops depicted on the current event information page.

This is more likely going to be like the Lian event where the first phase gave enough items to contribute to what you'll need to finish with during the second phase. Though, I think the Lian event was horrible; I can't even say the Loren drops and the beer that I got from it that I finally used to raise Jelius' confidence to 100% were worth it compared to all of the valkyries and archers I got during the Karma event.

I'm spending crystals on stamina to use up my charisma because I need 2 more silver archers to awaken Noel, and at least 3 more silver rogues for Mehlis, Chloe, Jelius, and Charlotte.
 

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Please note the below is purely meant to be a joke. Even though I said Petite lied, I meant the rate is quite different when it comes to me.
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For your information, Petite lied.
Roughly, you would have to spend 43,200JPY to get a specific chance-up platinum unit.
I beg to differ. The below results nearly broke the simulator. Also, please note, this was my first attempt. (No, I did not try to repeat until I get something ridiculous, my luck itself IS ridiculous)
 
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