Wait, just how does the patdown work anyway?
Like I said before, searching under the crotch is necessary for a true search because folks do hide shit like razor blades, drugs and so forth up there. I've even seen really small single shot pistols that were small enough to tuck in between one's thighs and behind the testicles. Same with between a woman's breasts.They seriously rub every part of your body. Under the arms, Up the crotch (Gotta make sure you don't have a bomb on your balls...), between your boobs (if applicable), etc.
So basically FDA had a study committed, and they say that the radiation dose is negligible. And the scanners indeed do use X-rays, which are ionizing radiation and therefore capable of causing mutations potentially leading to cancer. Apparently the x-rays used are supposed to be deflected by skin therefore reducing potential damage to other organs.You must be registered to see the linksthe article I read on it, but BoingBoing seems to be pretty heavily against all this nonsense, so I'm not sure how impartial it is.
The FDA's response is linked in the article, and can be foundYou must be registered to see the links
Positron? Seriously?About the estimate on cancer: Any single photon with enough energy(or electron, or positron or alpha-particle) can cause a mutation. Considering how common cancers are, I'd say the estimate is reasonable.
Er, I think you're in the wrong decade.We haven't even been able to sequence a humans entire genome
Look it up, and look it up properly... We're lacking a serious bit that can't be sequenced with the tech we have today. -_-Er, I think you're in the wrong decade.
Yes, I am aware of the existence of the background radiation, thank you very much. Your comparison shows that you don't really understand what you're talking about. All it takes to create cancer is few particles in the right places. Any ionizing radiation can be the source of those particles. Therefore any radiation can cause cancer. All I said that 1/30 million sounds like a reasonable estimate. How many people fly in US every year? 600 million? 20 of those might get cancer because of the scanners. That isn't enough to show up in statistics in any way. In other words, a ridiculously low number.No, but you clearly fail to grasp the fact that there is ionising radiation everywhere, and that compared to all other things this is like saying the sealevel rises if your dog shakes itself dry next to a stream. Yes, some droplets might hit the stream, and yes, that might raise the sealevel just a tiny tiny bit, but it's impossible to measure, and there's going to be no effect from it.
Then either move on or stop being wrong.Trying to use science when you clearly haven't researched the science behind it... It just leads to fail. Now could we please move on? This could be a deep, meaningful discussion on ethics vs. security, and on egoism vs. altruism.
That's the discussion I want to have.
I want to move on, but I'm sure you can understand that I cannot back down when you on baseless grounds tell me I'm wrong.Yes, I am aware of the existence of the background radiation, thank you very much. Your comparison shows that you don't really understand what you're talking about. All it takes to create cancer is few particles in the right places. Any ionizing radiation can be the source of those particles. Therefore any radiation can cause cancer. All I said that 1/30 million sounds like a reasonable estimate. How many people fly in US every year? 600 million? 20 of those might get cancer because of the scanners. That isn't enough to show up in statistics in any way. In other words, a ridiculously low number.
Then either move on or stop being wrong.
Well that clears it up for me. Regardless about whatever the chances of cancer might be, with those figures it is quite clearly an irrelevant degree of radiation. If anyone considers the radiaton from the scan too much for them, then they should steer clear of flying and most parts of earth altogether. The health concerns side of the issue is a dead point in my opinion.That article said:So are people who travel a lot going to be subjected to dangerous levels of radiation if they get backscattered too often? Most experts say no. According to the Health Physics Society (HPS), a person undergoing a backscatter scan receives approximately 0.005 millirems (mrem, a unit of absorbed radiation). American Science and Engineering, Inc., actually puts that number slightly higher, in the area of .009 mrem. According to U.S. regulatory agencies, 1 mrem per year is a negligible dose of radiation, and 25 mrem per year from a single source is the upper limit of safe radiation exposure. Using the HPS numbers, it would take 200 backscatter scans in a year to reach a negligible dose -- 1 mrem -- of radiation. You receive 1 mrem from three hours on anYou must be registered to see the links, from two days in Denver or from three days in Atlanta. And it would take 5,000 scans in a year to reach the upper limit of safety. A traveler would have to get 100 backscatter scans per week, every week, for a year, in order to be in real danger from the radiation. Few frequent flyers fly that frequently.