Summertime Saga

[AnonTheHuman]

Excerpt from Community Guidelines:

"We understand that some topics on this list such as incest are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life.

Never understood that line of thinking (or any really) on Patreon's part. Incest isn't inherently a bad thing, as long as both parties are consenting and of legal age, it should be fine. It's kinda stupid that they're getting fussy over two people with the same blood smacking fleshy bits together in a FICTIONAL setting.

 

[OnyxShadow]

Just do what the porn industry at large has been doing.

"Let's have sex, STEPsister."
"That feels so good, STEPmother."

Basically autocorrect all instances of actual incest to the kind that everyone is apparently okay with.

 

[DawnCry]

Just do what the porn industry at large has been doing.

"Let's have sex, STEPsister."
"That feels so good, STEPmother."

Basically autocorrect all instances of actual incest to the kind that everyone is apparently okay with.

That's the irony of the situation... personally I don't care about the incest fetish but I find stupid that they treat fictional characters the same as real people, the only question I could have to people who defend that is "are you stupid?". The only answer to that question that I would expect is "Yes".

The same with the rape or almost all fetishes, I don't care what happens to fictional people.

 

[dienow]

Just do what the porn industry at large has been doing.

"Let's have sex, STEPsister."
"That feels so good, STEPmother."

Basically autocorrect all instances of actual incest to the kind that everyone is apparently okay with.

That's the fastest way to kill any chance of getting donations.

 

[JaegerNimrod]

That's the fastest way to kill any chance of getting donations.

I would bet my last dollar that the percentage of donors who are in it solely for the incest is quite small; I'd be legitimately surprised at anything above 5%.

 

[Chaussettes]

I would bet my last dollar that the percentage of donors who are in it solely for the incest is quite small; I'd be legitimately surprised at anything above 5%.

It's not particularly about the incest thing. You're right, people that play this game only for the incest part must be like 5 %. But there's a difference between playing only for it and thinking that it adds a lot to the game. Honestly, I don't really care much about the incest thing, but the fact that the mom's or sister's scenes are better than the rest, plus that you can "form" a bond with them, you are a lot more emotionnally involved with those characters than with anyone else in the game. Personnally, if the mom isn't the mom anymore, and if the sister isn't the sister anymore, I won't play that game anymore (Or at least not without a patch or something). And I think people like me are more than 5 %.

 

[JaegerNimrod]

It's not particularly about the incest thing. You're right, people that play this game only for the incest part must be like 5 %. But there's a difference between playing only for it and thinking that it adds a lot to the game. Honestly, I don't really care much about the incest thing, but the fact that the mom's or sister's scenes are better than the rest, plus that you can "form" a bond with them, you are a lot more emotionnally involved with those characters than with anyone else in the game. Personnally, if the mom isn't the mom anymore, and if the sister isn't the sister anymore, I won't play that game anymore (Or at least not without a patch or something). And I think people like me are more than 5 %.

I don't think the scenes need to be changed at all, nor the relationships between the protagonist and the sister/mother. The change to step-whatever would be very minor and could easily be written in as a minor detail, i.e. the protagonist is the dead dad's son with a failed marriage, but he married the step-mother when he was a baby so they're just as close with nothing different but names. I can't see how the dynamic would change enough to alter the family relationships just because of blood, but I respect that for some people it was the only factor that made the relationships interesting.

 

[JaegerNimrod]

It's back, and just as predicted, Patreon didn't like some of the content of STS, most likely the incest. They were evidently prepared for whatever they need to change and none of the art or H-scenes will be affected.

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[dienow]

I would bet my last dollar that the percentage of donors who are in it solely for the incest is quite small; I'd be legitimately surprised at anything above 5%.

You would be wrong, as Mom/Sister + your best friend/his mom are two that rank high in requested content, and have been worked on most extensively.

Anybody that is trying to make the argument that nobody cares about incest in this game has obviously ignored that the incest content is the vast majority of existing content.

Aside from being Sameface: The Game, the dev cucking to patreon and removing this content essentially kills any remaining interest I had.

 

[JaegerNimrod]

You would be wrong, as Mom/Sister + your best friend/his mom are two that rank high in requested content, and have been worked on most extensively.

Anybody that is trying to make the argument that nobody cares about incest in this game has obviously ignored that the incest content is the vast majority of existing content.

Aside from being Sameface: The Game, the dev cucking to patreon and removing this content essentially kills any remaining interest I had.

I'm surprised at how people seem to need the incest to enjoy the game (it has great art and H-scenes which are enough for me and, I suspect, many others). I'm not denying that there are many who subscribe to STS for the incest, but I would need serious convincing to believe that the ratio of patrons who donate because the programming/art/h-scenes are good vs. patrons who donate solely for the incest aspect is low enough to spell the ending for the game. I know that incest is highly requested, but I doubt it's a requirement for success.

 

[AceofWind]

Couldn't the creators just make a non-incest version for their patreon while also sharing a free patch on their official website that restores incest dialogue to the game or would that be too much work?

 

[Dragon248]

Couldn't the creators just make a non-incest version for their patreon while also sharing a free patch on their official website that restores incest dialogue to the game or would that be too much work?

Creators are not allowed to create a patch that adds back the incest content as Patreon will check their site for it.

 

[Esgaldin]

Creators are not allowed to create a patch that adds back the incest content as Patreon will check their site for it.

Officially they can't, but "anonymous fan" patch can appear...
Meh those assholes who want to put they censor on internet..

 

[dienow]

I'm surprised at how people seem to need the incest to enjoy the game (it has great art and H-scenes which are enough for me and, I suspect, many others). I'm not denying that there are many who subscribe to STS for the incest, but I would need serious convincing to believe that the ratio of patrons who donate because the programming/art/h-scenes are good vs. patrons who donate solely for the incest aspect is low enough to spell the ending for the game. I know that incest is highly requested, but I doubt it's a requirement for success.

You just don't understand how fast patrons will turn on someone if there's even a hint of their favorite thing being neglected, much less removed.

 

[DawnCry]

One thing that I actually wonder is if there will be a day when they will ban adult content from patreon.

 

[JaegerNimrod]

You just don't understand how fast patrons will turn on someone if there's even a hint of their favorite thing being neglected, much less removed.

I think STS is novel enough and high-quality enough to overcome that, but I suppose I'll agree to disagree.

 

[OnyxShadow]

I think STS is novel enough and high-quality enough to overcome that, but I suppose I'll agree to disagree.

Exactly. Its arguably the most polished Renpy H-game in development.

Also, I think a strong argument could be made that for every person who ONLY came for the incest content there could easily be at least as many that were completely turned off by it.

At the end of the day I suspect that with this sort of project it will make very little difference one way or the other.

Time will tell.

 

[Keyen]

Exactly. Its arguably the most polished Renpy H-game in development.

Polished is probably the last word I would use for STS.

Also, people are saying Incest is not really a focus of the game, but the version is currently the 14.5, and we had 2 (TWO) versions which focused on others characters than the family.

Two.

 

[Omnikuken]

^ Anything pre 0.10 was basic engine building, the real girl updates started on 0.10

 

[Keyen]

They extended/revamped multiple times the family scenes.