JustLurksHere
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I'd argue that this extended digression *is* the actual topic.
Also, for all *my* disdain for social anti-vax movements, I'd still see "social engineering by the liberals" argument as "it's only bad if the other side does it" - unless that was meant as overengineering. But then, everyone puts the threshold in a different place.
After all, till about the age of 12 for humans any socialization is effectively indistinguishable from brainwashing, regardless of whether it's the parents or another party that does it.
That's just how our brains work.
Past that age, things get a bit harder, as most direct approaches are getting blocked (unless they go along the paths that were left unsecured by the previous processes), but indirect approaches still work, just take more time and effort.
As they should. After all, our mental plasticity stands behind both our greatest successes *and* our greatest failures as a civilization.
If we couldn't deem arbitrarily picked human groups as subhuman throughout our history, we wouldn't get where we are now, would we ?
Also, for all *my* disdain for social anti-vax movements, I'd still see "social engineering by the liberals" argument as "it's only bad if the other side does it" - unless that was meant as overengineering. But then, everyone puts the threshold in a different place.
After all, till about the age of 12 for humans any socialization is effectively indistinguishable from brainwashing, regardless of whether it's the parents or another party that does it.
That's just how our brains work.
Past that age, things get a bit harder, as most direct approaches are getting blocked (unless they go along the paths that were left unsecured by the previous processes), but indirect approaches still work, just take more time and effort.
As they should. After all, our mental plasticity stands behind both our greatest successes *and* our greatest failures as a civilization.
If we couldn't deem arbitrarily picked human groups as subhuman throughout our history, we wouldn't get where we are now, would we ?