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[ghostpianist]

Re: 淫靡の国のアリス

There are variations in the scenes too and i think its based on number of visits and the - number on the bitch/whore outfit that you need to use (outift can be found in the brothel/church area inside a house on right side, on the left side of the face in the wall).

Easy way to lower the number is to get a debuff from the low level red/pink flower enemies and then go to abilities/spells screen and do the new ability, its basically masturbation or something.

If you talk to the March Hare... guy (in the tea room) more than once, he gives you a key item that displays your Lewdness/Corruption (L/C) when used. Also note that there are two separate values for L/C: The one displayed when the key item is used, and the one displayed under character information (状態).

Speaking of battles, either the Hatter (glasses) or the Hare informs you via dialogue that certain female-specific skills don't work on non-humanoid enemies. They do, however, work on humanoid enemies, and doing so (along with various events and so on later on) increases your L/C value for the key item when they are successfully used against enemies. (This is from memory, so it may not be entirely correct; but it correlates with game experience so far.)

Important Edit: The one displayed when the key item is used increases the value of the one under character information once it reaches a certain threshold, then resets back to zero.

Also, regarding the unique outfit from the Slums area (yes, it's called that in various lines in-game), that "-X" value actually deducts HP with every single step you take in the open world (don't believe indoor areas count but could be wrong about this, might just be certain safe indoor areas). At lower L/C, you lose -3 HP with each step. Chances are this HP loss is reduced as the L/C value of the main character increases.

Oh, and about that. It's not really labelled "HP" in-game. More like "Reason" or perhaps "Sanity". If you hit 0 HP, you end up in something akin to a Hospital / Asylum and have to escape from there (filled with pretty tough enemies that are easier to escape from than to fight) to respawn at your last known position in the game. Not sure if there's anything more to that Death Zone, like bad ends or item chests.

 

[suning]

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Oh, and about that. It's not really labelled "HP" in-game. More like "Reason" or perhaps "Sanity". If you hit 0 HP, you end up in something akin to a Hospital / Asylum and have to escape from there (filled with pretty tough enemies that are easier to escape from than to fight) to respawn at your last known position in the game. Not sure if there's anything more to that Death Zone, like bad ends or item chests.

some of the bosses have their bad end if you have low L/C instead of just getting game over

 

[ghostpianist]

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some of the bosses have their bad end if you have low L/C instead of just getting game over

Too low or too high?

 

[ESBA]

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Just did the casino part and once again no idea where to go next, cant go into the forest yet since the old man is blocking it. I did manage to start the brothel stuff but it seems like im stuck in a loop, keep getting generic npcs after getting that bald guy from the same area.

BTW if you didint know, at the end of the maid story you can get pregnant by the catboy but you need to select the second choice, kinda easy to miss if you are just clicking away.

The lack of understanding of the story is really annoying and i cant find any downloads of the visual novel reader anywhere since the site went down. Sorry to bother you guys whit all this but TSF/TG/GB is kinda my thing.

 

[suning]

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Just did the casino part and once again no idea where to go next, cant go into the forest yet since the old man is blocking it. I did manage to start the brothel stuff but it seems like im stuck in a loop, keep getting generic npcs after getting that bald guy from the same area.

BTW if you didint know, at the end of the maid story you can get pregnant by the catboy but you need to select the second choice, kinda easy to miss if you are just clicking away.

The lack of understanding of the story is really annoying and i cant find any downloads of the visual novel reader anywhere since the site went down. Sorry to bother you guys whit all this but TSF/TG/GB is kinda my thing.

well don't worry i got lost some times too but i managed to finish the game because my Determination UT fans anyone lol, and yeah TSF is one of my favorites fetishes (hate when i lose important dialog that you cannot see it again so either i need to went back a save or search randomly）

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after that it will unlock the place that is down from the first dungeon　entrance (not inside) that was blocked by a card guy, then in one of the houses you will find out the hat guy and he will ask you to get some blue mushrooms in the sewer so you can turn back to male, after that remember the forest that had an old guy blocking? yeah the reason he blocks it is too dangerous to a girl go there (a succubus monster turns you back into Alice be careful) if that happen a monster called girl devourer will spawn and it is impossible to beat it.Use the male TG potion to make them disappear that you got from hat guy called 男体化 . when you finish the forest part you will get a sword equip it you will finally get the TG (male to female ony) skill called Male slash

 

[shortykilz]

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So, somehow my character is stuck with large breast status after completing the maid mansion questline. Is there any way to return that to normal?

 

[Itanei]

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Whew, this game is TSF heaven. Now if only it wasn't so obtuse at times.
I actually went through the whole Maid Mansion section without grabbing the party dress... Speaking of which, if you go back after it's done, if you go to your room (the one you share with that maid Eida) and you speak to her you get to have an alternate ending where you marry her if you answer Yes to her 1st question. If you say no then you get the option for some sex, which you should (should you decide not to because, say, you're curious what happens, you can speak to her again and she'll propose sex again). It will actually unlock a new skill for female ennemies.

About the "murder" mystery at the hotel (actually a criminal randomly turning men into women) : the option that game overs you is the option where you say *you* are the culprit. I tried to go through that section on a save and... Boy, I got completely stuck after the kung fu guy got turned. And how high is that hotel?! 40+ levels and I stopped there because that was a whole lot of nothing. And I expected more secret passages after that one in the 1st victim's bathroom...
Maybe more options unlock after you get the ability to go back to being a man (getting targeted maybe? no idea).

Got to the casino, best way to get coins is to get 300 coins (either via converting 3k shillings in coins, or from farming the slot machines a bit), then you just farm the roulette. It dies in 3 attacks (I bought the spear at the weapon shop near the hotel) and can barely do scratch damage when it does attack (3 damage, wowzes). The only roulette status effect that I saw lasting after the fight being the enlarged breasts status. If you get turned into a doll, it *still* basically cannot kill you (any roulette effect will do *nothing* and its attacks still barely hurt you) and you have an attack skill unique to that form that will deal sufficient damage if you don't wanna spam the attack button for a while.
That status also doesn't last. Wonder if it'll get a more relevant section.
In the women's toilet you can swap your party dress for a bunny suit from one of the men that got turned into a bunny girl, which allows you to access to staff only area. There's the next 3 people to be put on auction there, which includes a cook... Couldn't interact with him tho, sitting at the far back of his cell. I'm just working on the coins right now, so I'll see next.

Also suning, your posts are appreciated! Quite the help.

 

[djweish]

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Is this a bug? Fighting the Bew-bie enemy in the maid mansion and it uses a spell (Mammary Grow?) that gives you the big breast state, which persists after battle. Then fighting the Milker Maker one, and if you have big breasts sometimes it uses an attack where it sucks the milk out, and your breasts go back to normal size. However, this one doesn't persist once the battle has ended - as soon as the fight is over, you're back to having large breasts again. It seems like these two enemies are meant to be able to toggle your breast state, but the second one is bugged?

 

[suning]

Re: 淫靡の国のアリス

Is this a bug? Fighting the Bew-bie enemy in the maid mansion and it uses a spell (Mammary Grow?) that gives you the big breast state, which persists after battle. Then fighting the Milker Maker one, and if you have big breasts sometimes it uses an attack where it sucks the milk out, and your breasts go back to normal size. However, this one doesn't persist once the battle has ended - as soon as the fight is over, you're back to having large breasts again. It seems like these two enemies are meant to be able to toggle your breast state, but the second one is bugged?

yes it is a bug, it got fixed on version 1,02

 

[Itanei]

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Still in the casino, more playing around testing stuff...
Sheesh, that game could really use more sparkles to indicate important/useful stuff!

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Starting with a lil' tip : the billard fight for coins is excellent for exp! 1.1k exp, tho the ennemy hits pretty hard. Use the fire skill from the red ribbon accessory (if you missed the npc that gave you one in the maid mansion, you can buy one for 1k in stores) to destroy the balls, then focus on beating up the ennemy (I mostly use the 4SP hug attack).
If you wanna heal up, take a rest at the inn, since it will also recover MP (you can actually sleep twice per payment), or go get defeated while low on HP outside and get out from the asylum/hospital. Speaking of which, once you get out of your azylum room, go the room in the top left and speak to the tree-headed doctor, he'll give you an item that heals up 50% HP/MP once per respawn.

Casino things!

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Found 2 scenes with the bunny suit in the main casino area : the masked man in yellow near the roulettes, you'll get a new skill after that scene too (and 3k coins). Near the slot machines is another NPC in yellow, another scene and 3k coins. If you try to exit the casino area, you'll find the exit blocked by an NPC and a horse : talk to them, and they'll give you back party dress and free the exit. Edit : the horse is actually the bunnygirl that tried to escape. That makes the 2nd person turned into an animal I've noticed so far (1st being that poor maid who kept doing everything wrong and became a cow).
The staff only area actually has something else : if you check the top right closet, you'll find a girl's outfit and a wig (presumably to use when you're a male, as it cannot be equipped/changed into currently).
Haven't delved into the casino dungeon much, but the doll ennemies (so that's where it appears more...) can drop a doll item to be used in combat to escape immediately.
The bunnysuit also has its own unique skill (speaking of which : the maid costume also has its unique "Reward" skil that basically hits 3 men weakpoints) which apparently allows you to recover SP? But at the cost of getting aroused.

...Yeah I think I'll throw my money at the creators once I can.

 

[djweish]

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yes it is a bug, it got fixed on version 1,02

And of course, all the links on the usual sites are for the bugged version. Be nice if the link sharers updated when patches came out, but I guess we can't complain.

 

[suning]

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And of course, all the links on the usual sites are for the bugged version. Be nice if the link sharers updated when patches came out, but I guess we can't complain.

actually i don't have it too it is just that i read patch notes from his blog if i had the game i would update it

 

[ghostpianist]

Re: 淫靡の国のアリス

BTW if you didint know, at the end of the maid story you can get pregnant by the catboy but you need to select the second choice, kinda easy to miss if you are just clicking away.

Not the second choice, the first.

Two choices are:
仕方ないな (I guess it can't be helped)
やだ！ (No way!)

Ran through both via saving and loading. The first one (can't be helped) resulted in a status effect which I assume is what you're talking about (didn't play past there). The second one didn't give any status effect.

 

[Itanei]

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Actually it seems kinda random... I chose the 1st option myself and, well, no status effect in sight.
Note that you can also get pregnant from the scenes with the bunnysuit in the VIP room in the casino (there's 4 of them, but technically it's 2 scenes repeated).
It also seems like a version 1.3 will be on the way (already up on dmm I think?) which is more bugfixes.
Now for some fun tidbits about the forest section to get the Male slash skill.

Spoiler

So for one, I had no idea that items equipped on one gender will stay on it while you're switched, so I had lost my all-ennemies fire attack accessory for the plant boss orz. Good thing I had some lighters in my inventory to deal with the vines.
Now for the fun stuff! The fight with Luther after you obtain the Vorpal Sword (yup! the very sword).
Before the fight you get the option to use or not use the sword... Which is actually an accessory which puzzled me a bit when I got to the equipping menu. But hey that means no matter what weapon, you can still use the skill.
So then, there's a variety of outcomes depending on how the fight goes!
Which is all, in the end, based on your actions in battle, wether you equipped the sword or not.
1/ Win without using the Maleslash : Luther remains a man and runs away.
That's it. You can still equip the Vorpal Sword, nothing special.
2/ Win using the Maleslash : the fight becomes much easier, now that Luther spends half the fight being stunned and deals less damage. She's not quite pleased with the situation and runs away. Once you leave the area, you'll find her surrounded by tentacles and the previous plant boss you had to fight.
Interact with it to trigger a scene. RIP Luther.
3/ Lose using the Maleslash : that one can be a bit difficult if you didn't lower your HP before the fight, because guarding forever will be *very long and very boring* and you don't want to accidentally defeat her. Once defeated,
she takes the sword, but as a woman, can't use it. She runs away. Leave the area and... The exact same thing as 2/ will happen, except there will be a sparkly section on the ground nearby : it's the sword, she dropped it.
So yeah as long as you use the Maleslash, you're good :^)
4/ Lose without using the Maleslash : last but not least, this very special game over. While there won't be any CG, there's some fun stuff. Luther beats you down, then takes the sword for himself, asking us if we know that sword's power... And he Maleslashes us. The protagonist... Becomes a girl version of themselves! Yes, not the blond Alice, their normal self, with proper status illustration. Luther taunts us and goes away, while we are left here as the woman eating monsters of the forest approach... Game over.
Whew, that got quite dark here!

Oh, also, the fairy ennemies (from the sections with small ennemy blobs)
can turn you into a fairy. Amusingly, this transformation as well as the doll transformation have different illustrations depending on wether we are male or female. Now if only it there was more to it than just an in-battle status effect... Kind of a shame for a bunch of other status effects, speaking of which. Futanari shows no difference as Alice (amusingly, only Futanari Alice gets the ability to sexually assault a target, as well as a... Penis on penis action skill?), and the covered in chocolate status effect (yes, that is a thing,
the small chocolate blob ennemies can do it) is literally just an icon that doesn't seem to do anything. A bit of a bummer.

I might be able to provide a link once the update is available on dlsite, but no promises.
Also the genderbender mystery at the Hostel has me stumped... It just seems to *stop* once you get to the whodunnit section. I wonder if there's a particular order of events to trigger to follow...

 

[suning]

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Actually it seems kinda random... I chose the 1st option myself and, well, no status effect in sight.
Note that you can also get pregnant from the scenes with the bunnysuit in the VIP room in the casino (there's 4 of them, but technically it's 2 scenes repeated).
It also seems like a version 1.3 will be on the way (already up on dmm I think?) which is more bugfixes.
Now for some fun tidbits about the forest section to get the Male slash skill.

Spoiler

So for one, I had no idea that items equipped on one gender will stay on it while you're switched, so I had lost my all-ennemies fire attack accessory for the plant boss orz. Good thing I had some lighters in my inventory to deal with the vines.
Now for the fun stuff! The fight with Luther after you obtain the Vorpal Sword (yup! the very sword).
Before the fight you get the option to use or not use the sword... Which is actually an accessory which puzzled me a bit when I got to the equipping menu. But hey that means no matter what weapon, you can still use the skill.
So then, there's a variety of outcomes depending on how the fight goes!
Which is all, in the end, based on your actions in battle, wether you equipped the sword or not.
1/ Win without using the Maleslash : Luther remains a man and runs away.
That's it. You can still equip the Vorpal Sword, nothing special.
2/ Win using the Maleslash : the fight becomes much easier, now that Luther spends half the fight being stunned and deals less damage. She's not quite pleased with the situation and runs away. Once you leave the area, you'll find her surrounded by tentacles and the previous plant boss you had to fight.
Interact with it to trigger a scene. RIP Luther.
3/ Lose using the Maleslash : that one can be a bit difficult if you didn't lower your HP before the fight, because guarding forever will be *very long and very boring* and you don't want to accidentally defeat her. Once defeated,
she takes the sword, but as a woman, can't use it. She runs away. Leave the area and... The exact same thing as 2/ will happen, except there will be a sparkly section on the ground nearby : it's the sword, she dropped it.
So yeah as long as you use the Maleslash, you're good :^)
4/ Lose without using the Maleslash : last but not least, this very special game over. While there won't be any CG, there's some fun stuff. Luther beats you down, then takes the sword for himself, asking us if we know that sword's power... And he Maleslashes us. The protagonist... Becomes a girl version of themselves! Yes, not the blond Alice, their normal self, with proper status illustration. Luther taunts us and goes away, while we are left here as the woman eating monsters of the forest approach... Game over.
Whew, that got quite dark here!

Oh, also, the fairy ennemies (from the sections with small ennemy blobs)
can turn you into a fairy. Amusingly, this transformation as well as the doll transformation have different illustrations depending on wether we are male or female. Now if only it there was more to it than just an in-battle status effect... Kind of a shame for a bunch of other status effects, speaking of which. Futanari shows no difference as Alice (amusingly, only Futanari Alice gets the ability to sexually assault a target, as well as a... Penis on penis action skill?), and the covered in chocolate status effect (yes, that is a thing,
the small chocolate blob ennemies can do it) is literally just an icon that doesn't seem to do anything. A bit of a bummer.

I might be able to provide a link once the update is available on dlsite, but no promises.
Also the genderbender mystery at the Hostel has me stumped... It just seems to *stop* once you get to the whodunnit section. I wonder if there's a particular order of events to trigger to follow...

true but hey it is the first game like this! like etigoya first introduced the first game with h in battle (succubus quest did first but it was mostly your imagination) maybe more people interested in transformations will show up with similar content, or maybe he does a second game eventually which focus more on it! also

Spoiler

if you are wondering about the mermaid TF is only on last dungeon which there is a place inside water (need swimsuit or naked to enter) that you fight the mermaids, also for the female version of yourself there are two ends later 1 on the school arc and 2 on the last boss after victory

 

[Itanei]

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Yeah I'm just nitpicking =p
Great game so far. The circle has done a bunch of TSF stuff before but it's their 1st game apparently. And they're churning out patches pretty quick (it released on the 26th and they're already on 1.2~3), seems like a good sign.

Spoiler

I hit the school section and I'm mostly experimenting with it and doing weird stuff. Breaking the orb with the grey Michiru was an experience...
And also trying to find out how to get a school swimsuit for Alice, did that accidentally while scouring around the pool as a boy, accidentally walked towards the pool... And he actually entered it and got naked on the spot!
Trying to walk out had the guy near the entry between the pool and the changing rooms yell at us, then fight. Turned him into a girl, won, earned a school swimsuit (I thought maybe one would drop from the random mobs, but if it does, it's really low).

 

[DoctorPeas]

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I'm... not really into this, but here I am playing it anyway.

Anyhow, I'm at a part later than most of the folks who've posted so far, and I'm completely stuck.

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Okay, so I'm at the school. I've completed the outer part where the gym and pool are, and I've gotten access to the school proper. I've gotten the science guy to let me create both versions of the gender-changing stuff. I've finished the three dungeons that I can access--there's one more that is still locked (3rd floor of the school). I've got schoolgirl-dressed Michele(?) hanging out by the men's locker room way out by where the keystone is. I've used that vorpal sword on the guy by the soccer goals and the guy in room 1-1 who will fight you. And I'm stuck. I'm pretty sure that I need to do something with the second floor bathrooms--either the ones by the entrance or the ones in the school itself. I think I might have hit up against a bug: there's this male student in the women's bathroom. He's crossdressing when I'm a guy, and if I'm a girl he kicks me out of the room... and I come out of the clinic door. There's been a lot of weirdly-connected rooms that are working-as-intended, but this just feels wrong. Also I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing at this point, and I don't know if I'll be able to blunder through this one like I did the rest of the game so far.

I was stuck for a while on the hotel. So here's a tip:

Spoiler

The room where you play whodunnit with the detective has a secret door. That room's bathroom ALSO has a secret door. And as far as the top floor goes, I think the game procedurally generates empty floors after 8 or so.

I was also stuck for a while at the arena.

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It's more like I wasted a bunch of time wandering around. After you defeat the first guy you fight there (looks like a pirate, boss of the guys in the cave to the west), you have to keep going back to the ring at night. There're a few more fights.

I was also stuck at the forest...

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I guess you have to be a man to get in? The old guy will let you by if you're male, as far as I can tell. After that he's gone forever and you have free access. I have not yet tried to beat the special woman-only monsters that show up in the forest.

Actually, I've been stuck on (as far as I can tell) everything up to the school. So if folks have questions I'll try to help out if I remember to check back with the thread.

(This guy really likes his disconnected mazes and repeating corridors. Frankly I think part of the charm is that "hey was that supposed to happen" feeling you get when that sort of thing crops up. When, that is, you figure out that it was actually supposed to happen.)

 

[ESBA]

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Im stuck at the forest , cant fight the guy after getting the sword. Also i cant seem to find the school nor have i seen that bondage outfit anywhere.

 

[suning]

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I'm... not really into this, but here I am playing it anyway.

Anyhow, I'm at a part later than most of the folks who've posted so far, and I'm completely stuck.

Spoiler

Okay, so I'm at the school. I've completed the outer part where the gym and pool are, and I've gotten access to the school proper. I've gotten the science guy to let me create both versions of the gender-changing stuff. I've finished the three dungeons that I can access--there's one more that is still locked (3rd floor of the school). I've got schoolgirl-dressed Michele(?) hanging out by the men's locker room way out by where the keystone is. I've used that vorpal sword on the guy by the soccer goals and the guy in room 1-1 who will fight you. And I'm stuck. I'm pretty sure that I need to do something with the second floor bathrooms--either the ones by the entrance or the ones in the school itself. I think I might have hit up against a bug: there's this male student in the women's bathroom. He's crossdressing when I'm a guy, and if I'm a girl he kicks me out of the room... and I come out of the clinic door. There's been a lot of weirdly-connected rooms that are working-as-intended, but this just feels wrong. Also I have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing at this point, and I don't know if I'll be able to blunder through this one like I did the rest of the game so far.

I was stuck for a while on the hotel. So here's a tip:

Spoiler

The room where you play whodunnit with the detective has a secret door. That room's bathroom ALSO has a secret door. And as far as the top floor goes, I think the game procedurally generates empty floors after 8 or so.

I was also stuck for a while at the arena.

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It's more like I wasted a bunch of time wandering around. After you defeat the first guy you fight there (looks like a pirate, boss of the guys in the cave to the west), you have to keep going back to the ring at night. There're a few more fights.

I was also stuck at the forest...

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I guess you have to be a man to get in? The old guy will let you by if you're male, as far as I can tell. After that he's gone forever and you have free access. I have not yet tried to beat the special woman-only monsters that show up in the forest.

Actually, I've been stuck on (as far as I can tell) everything up to the school. So if folks have questions I'll try to help out if I remember to check back with the thread.

(This guy really likes his disconnected mazes and repeating corridors. Frankly I think part of the charm is that "hey was that supposed to happen" feeling you get when that sort of thing crops up. When, that is, you figure out that it was actually supposed to happen.)

well isn't alice in wonderland some mazelike story i guess he based on that since she is always lost, well for where you are stuck

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i got stuck on this part too, in the schoo arc is to follow the guy that appears in the first room with 3 mirrors and a orb, this part he is on library up there near the book you started your adventure (yeah when i saw it was a CG room now i too gave up on searching there for a time)

Im stuck at the forest , cant fight the guy after getting the sword. Also i cant seem to find the school nor have i seen that bondage outfit anywhere.

Spoiler

well if you are done with the tournament arc then, remember the train rail in slum areas? well if you follow it until the end you will find a tunnel that leads to the school

 

[ghostpianist]

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Actually it seems kinda random... I chose the 1st option myself and, well, no status effect in sight.
Note that you can also get pregnant from the scenes with the bunnysuit in the VIP room in the casino (there's 4 of them, but technically it's 2 scenes repeated).

Oh, okay then. Is there any aftereffect from there on, like affecting the endings? (One of the endings appears to be related to this, at any rate.) Or does it just have a related scene at some point afterwards (after a number of steps take or something), after which everything goes back to normal? And/or is it a status effect that you can get rid of with items?

Edit: Never mind, there's a library later on after the maid arc that lists all of the status effects and other related stuff.