I tried it like last week or so, only 1 star cos I leaked a goblin from the initial wave There should be a chance for 3 star if I recycle the tanks, trusted my 3 CCd healers but they couldn't handle, no Princess is the problem I guess. So I ended up killing the Liches but with only like 4-5 units left alive. Not gonna rush tho as there's no need for that now.Whelp with so many people clearing Immortal Beast I decided to give it a go....
and 2 starred it
Will probably 3 star it after being able to CC Clissa/CC Fedora.
Sadly only two units dropped(well four)... so now I have to run it again.
EDIT: Roy you son of a bitch why you no drop?
I agree, the amount dropped by H seems only maginally better than N maps. However the cost is much higher for H, and it seems a bit backwards for "progress" and scale of the maps.As for H and N map. In last few weeks I saw that average i have higher drop rate on N map somehow. Theoretically it should be 55% for each crystal on both maps. Just H got x3 when N got x2. However best drop i had on H was just three, usually got two anyway. Meanwhile had a lot of 5 drops on N map. Difference in crystals is actually only 1 but when we take in consideration stamina spent... Damn that just sucks! Come on! I want my Chydis already!
Yeah I wrote that theoretically they have the same drop rate for crystals, however my experience shows thath N map got 5 drops very often, when H map... not sure if I ever got 4 drops yet... Yeah I know it's not enough number of runs to say anything, however what can i say/think when I see h map droping 3 drops 4 times and 2 drops 2 times and on N map I got 5 drops 7 times 4 drops 5 times, 3 drops 2 times and once 2 drops...N and H have the same drop rate. Meaning that if you get one drop in H you could have gotten one drop in N.... so you are essentially giving up one crystal for every drop you get in normal. Cause you could have gotten those same drops in H, but choose not to because you choose to follow 'luck' that lies to you instead of data that shows the truth.
The thing is that the dataset that the forum users here represent is probably very small compared to the total set of users.Over all data means shit when you NEVER see the overall yourself.
I routinly never get more than 3 drops on hard. Does not fucking matter if i never see higher on it if it "coulda shoulda woulda"..useless argument.
You want it, tear up, nothing stopping you.
But don't try to tell other people they coulda gotten it, thats like saying I coulda rolled nothing but blacks too. Just cause something is possible doesnt mean it will.
That is something different entirely.... You want to bring in premium rolls as a comparison.... That is like someone rolling 3 SC instead of 5 SC claiming they get the higher rarity more often with 3 SC rolls instead of 5 SC rolls.Over all data means shit when you NEVER see the overall yourself.
I routinly never get more than 3 drops on hard. Does not fucking matter if i never see higher on it if it "coulda shoulda woulda"..useless argument.
You want it, tear up, nothing stopping you.
But don't try to tell other people they coulda gotten it, thats like saying I coulda rolled nothing but blacks too. Just cause something is possible doesnt mean it will.
The data we present is what came from hundred of thousand of runs of each from the entirety of the players running the daily for over a year. It isn't a small set of total users. Bad luck is bad luck that is all it is.The thing is that the dataset that the forum users here represent is probably very small compared to the total set of users.
The forum users could overall be the outliers in the total set, which could fall within the expected range when looked at in its entirety.
Because of luck... that is all... People switch from N to H get a few bad runs and claim N drops more when that is not the truth of it all. It is a kneejerk reaction to luck.I mean - if both maps got the same drop rate (55%) then why N map seems to be dropping more than H map?
Considering it is made by the same Devs no. The drop rate would not be different. There is no reason for it. The only thing that will maybe ever be different from the JP version is the difficulty of events/maps due to us getting them in a different order or missing something they got earlier then we did.Btw is it possible that we have different drop rates than DMM version? Or that the info about drop rates isn't actual now?
I still have my doubts after seeing the results so far so maybe the info is wrong? Anyway gonna check it for some more time. Would be nice if someone else would be so nice and provide thursday results for any of those maps or even both (you all doing it anyway ). More data more reliability.Considering it is made by the same Devs no. The drop rate would not be different. There is no reason for it. The only thing that will maybe ever be different from the JP version is the difficulty of evens/maps due to us getting them in a different order or missing something they got earlier then we did.
Hold on there buckwild. You ARE guessing, Nutaku has not openly confirmed or denied our statics for the maps we have, you are spewing regurgitated shit from DMM. We dont know what ours our unless they confirm its the same, which all things given, it may be, but it's entirely possible it isn't. So get your facts straight before you try correcting someone over "facts".Facts are 5 SC is the better roll, but their luck sucks.
Facts are H gives more period and the drop rate is the exact same, but their luck sucks.
You can't argue with hard facts, numbers, and data. It just makes you look stupid. This isn't me or anyone else guessing, and saying 'oh H should get you more'.
Speculation only. Odds are it was not changed, but it is not enough to form a basis that everything DMM has is exactly the same. Simply put, we don't know.Considering it is made by the same Devs no. The drop rate would not be different. There is no reason for it. The only thing that will maybe ever be different from the JP version is the difficulty of events/maps due to us getting them in a different order or missing something they got earlier then we did.
Done... I am fucking done... you think the same devs that make the DMM version are going to change the drop rate for the Nutaku version... Why? for what possible reason would they change the daily drop rate?... You have no possible logical answer. All you are doing is grasping at straws to prove something when literally everything else is against it, and you know it. You and everyone else want to drive people to do things that are statistically worse because the only change between N and H drops are the total numbers of crystal you can get. BE MY GUEST... I'm done with this idiocy.Hold on there buckwild. You ARE guessing, Nutaku has not openly confirmed or denied our statics for the maps we have, you are spewing regurgitated shit from DMM. We dont know what ours our unless they confirm its the same, which all things given, it may be, but it's entirely possible it isn't. So get your facts straight before you try correcting someone over "facts".
As to claiming someone sees better on N, if thats what they see its what they see. You seem to think your facts over rule what people actually get. Yea the odds may be in favor for some statisitics, doesn't mean its going to happen with something random...now argue with that fact. It's going to be a matter of choice, nothing more nothing less.
It's the same as any gamble, what are you willing to risk. For some N is a more stable risk compared to H given risk / reward.
Why? Cause they want specific drop rates for us that are different from DMM, namely to slow down the aquisition of said crystals. You act like that's not feasible. From my understanding DMM didnt begin with a trading post, we did. So you are completely ignoring they may have reason to change it. It wouldn't be the first time a game messes with numbers.Done... I am fucking done... you think the same devs that make the DMM version are going to change the drop rate for the Nutaku version... Why? for what possible reason would they change the daily drop rate?... You have no possible logical answer. All you are doing is grasping at straws to prove something when literally everything else is against it, and you know it. You and everyone else want to drive people to do things that are statistically worse because the only change between N and H drops are the total numbers of crystal you can get. BE MY GUESS... I'm done with this idiocy.