(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[krisslanza]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Man I still can't even get past Vanquish Remnants 2 and the... other one after it. I don't have enough low-cost blockers that I actually use to stop them.

Doesn't help I'm only using female units though... and I think the only female soldiers are Phyllis and Katie.

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

If I'm being stupid somewhere... please point it out cause to me it is pretty clear cut that pastoral is not the best for experience like everyone keeps claiming.

Thus far as I've read, no one stated it was best for XP, only gold/units to sell for gold and low-mid level, 30 is about where it's no longer cost effective for, combines.
It should also be noted that this is the only AFK map we really have, in that you drop two units (or even just 1) and walk away. It doesn't have to be monitored, no unit switching no worrying about placement. That's its appeal.

XP wise I prefer Remnant Vanquished 3 over dragon hunting. I don't have an issue with the early rush, as my soldiers are easily placed before any can escape. After that its just auto drop units to secure the enemy point. I tend to get an average of 4-5 drops here compared to the annoying little 0-2 drops from Dragon Hunting. Those are my averages, YMMV.

Ofc you are right. Its just that newbies who read FAQ @ first post automatically assume that Pastoral is the place to farm for everything forever, when it is actually a stepping stone for everything but gold only farming. There's no point at all in running it for exp/feeder from the moment you reach Tower, just like Tower becomes obsolete after getting to Dragon Hunt.

Bit presumptuous here I believe, as no one stated it was best for XP.

XP wise Tower Overwatch is actually quite good for several levels. Dragon maps do become better once Castle Retake is cleared, but it takes quite awhile for people to clear it.

 

[dartred]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

try to get some of that bronze dude with a blue rag coming out of his helmet. he is only 6 points and can go to a minimum of 4. level 15 and he is more then enough to stay alive until he needs to be switched out.

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I think i should mention good place to farm with the current patch after castle retake:
Calculation based on total gold (3*) / stam , all unit drop exp / stam , Rank exp / stam, unit exp.
Reminder that lower lvl unit will give less exp to be more useful for fairy combine multiplication and in long run will cost more gold to max lvl
Remnant vanquish 3(30): gold 90, unit exp 20.16, exp 13.34 / 115+145 exp
Fire dragon (34):gold 92.65, unit exp 18,53, exp 13.41/ 120+150 exp
Dragon Hunting (37): gold 97.3, unit exp 14.32 (only 4 unit), exp 13.43 / 125+155 exp

Before castle retake:
Back to ruin (23): gold 78.26, unit exp 24.13, exp 12.7 / 105+135 exp
Tower overwatch (25): gold 79.2, unit exp 21.2, exp 13.16 / 100+130 exp

 

[Shurelia]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Well that was rather lack luster. Just did the Monday quests. Tried the hard mode version. I can clear it, but not fully (Katie keeps on dying... need to level my units more). So back to normal mode I guess. Bleh only 7 golden armors. I hope this isn't how the drops will be for the rest of today.

 

[x3n0]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

3 star the H mode 4 time 11 Gold 0 plat

 

[Shurelia]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Ouch that sucks. Bleh I really need to farm up gold today so I can level all of my main units up. Well hopefully our luck turns for the better later on.

 

[evilmonk]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

4 Hard Mode 3 stars, 13 Gold Armors, 0 Plats. Oh well~

 

[crow_mw]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I have a question I hope isnt to idiotic, could someone explain how XP gain works in combat? see I have looked over this thread and the guide, and there seems to be a big emphasis on the rural gate. but when I went back and did a lowlevel mission (not actually rural gate because it was before I started reading all this stuff) to test a the idea that I could get more XP by hitting up lower level maps that cost less charisma I got some laughably small amout, like 60 XP or something, and no it wasnt one of the stamina map, and I three starred it (though I am also not sure if three starring effects XP gain.

In addition to what other people have pointed out - what you are likely referring to is player exp, while Pastoral Gate is discussed in terms of food exp(the exp your units gain). For player exp in general the better the map, the better the gain.

The problem then become.... you would run out of gold.... period. You'd be spending 2.5 times more gold to gain that experience. You may argue well I can just sell the units to make the gold to combined.... my reply to that is well.... what units do you have left when you sell them.... none.

Note, that you can farm enough gold during Monday daily that you can eat all the units you get, even if you farm Rural Gate. If you make ton of gold on Monday you only start worrying about amount of food exp you gain per charisma spent.

For the remaining part of the post please see my reply at the bottom of this post.

Ofc you are right. Its just that newbies who read FAQ @ first post automatically assume that Pastoral is the place to farm for everything forever, when it is actually a stepping stone for everything but gold_only farming.

Edit: huh guess the old post I had been using from the JP topic was outdated. Or probably was just going on the perspective of raw charisma efficiency

'Rural is best for everything' is information based on slightly outdated Japanese FAQ. English version has the story mode re-balancing patch which changed the efficiency of high tier maps. However, Rural Gate is still very good for both gold and food exp.

Though I do have to ask. Does anyone else seem to get very few units from Dragon hunting? I seem to only get 2-3 per attempt, while if I was to do remnant 3 I usually get 4 or 5 units. It's kind of annoying since the level 18 units are so much better and less of a headache to use then the others.

I think i should mention good place to farm with the current patch after castle retake:
Calculation based on total gold (3*) / stam , all unit drop exp / stam , Rank exp / stam, unit exp.
Reminder that lower lvl unit will give less exp to be more useful for fairy combine multiplication and in long run will cost more gold to max lvl
Remnant vanquish 3(30): gold 90, unit exp 20.16, exp 13.34 / 115+145 exp
Fire dragon (34):gold 92.65, unit exp 18,53, exp 13.41/ 120+150 exp
Dragon Hunting (37): gold 97.3, unit exp 14.32 (only 4 unit), exp 13.43 / 125+155 exp

Before castle retake:
Back to ruin (23): gold 78.26, unit exp 24.13, exp 12.7 / 105+135 exp
Tower overwatch (25): gold 79.2, unit exp 21.2, exp 13.16 / 100+130 exp

And many posts claiming 'map X is the best'. It is believed that drop rates are not uniform among all story maps. Rural gate has 70% for each of four irons and 50% on the bronze. Desert Oasis has 60%/60%/40% drop rates. Dragon Hunting doesn't even drop 5 units. Different drop rates make comparing maps by 'max possible exp' very flawed. I have not seen drop rates for all story maps and without that we can't say which maps are most efficient. And even 10% difference in drop rate, which is hard to notice, influences the efficiency result greatly.

 

[sabotagge]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Yeah.. not a very good day for farming.
No plat armors,I got only 1 golden armor on 3 of my runs and the last one didn't drop me anything.
But I guess I cant complain last week I got 4 plat armors.Hope it gets better on the few runs I have left during the day.

 

[PeterAlexander]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I have a question regarding evolving a unit.
The search function unfortunately didn't really help me in this vast thread.
Also the wiki regarding CC didn't help me: millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Class_change

So I got Daniela to level 50 today and have some spare Danielas which I thought I could use to CC her except they aren't qualified to be a needed level 3 archer?!
I now think that you can't use an equal card as material for evolutions?
Does that mean I'd need a spare Soma (3-star archer) as material?


Edit:
I just answered the question by reading the wiki again.
It is stated there that:"The materials needed for the procedure are always the same for a different unit of same class and rarity."
So I would indeed need another 3star archer card.
Oh well, hopefully I get another of those somewhere sometime.

 

[Sisulart]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

I have a question regarding evolving a unit.
The search function unfortunately didn't really help me in this vast thread.
Also the wiki regarding CC didn't help me: millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Class_change

So I got Daniela to level 50 today and have some spare Danielas which I thought I could use to CC her except they aren't qualified to be a needed level 3 archer?!
I now think that you can't use an equal card as material for evolutions?
Does that mean I'd need a spare Soma (3-star archer) as material?


Edit:
I just answered the question by reading the wiki again.
It is stated there that:"The materials needed for the procedure are always the same for a different unit of same class and rarity."
So I would indeed need another 3star archer card.
Oh well, hopefully I get another of those somewhere sometime.

No you can use Daniela to cc Daniela you need to unlock your Daniela in the unit list before you can use her.

 

[PeterAlexander]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

No you can use Daniela to cc Daniela you need to unlock your Daniela in the unit list before you can use her.

You are right and I feel dumb now for not unlocking the card first.
Reps up for you, good sir!

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

11 Runs of normal (man I really need to either get bernice or cc phyllis)....

Got 20 gold armor and 0 plat armor... hopefully I will get at least one platinum... I need to get Bashira CC'd before Thursday.

 

[Altrius]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So like last week time to get baseball bat ready to *WHACK* anyone who got 2+ platinum
My result: 14 gold in 7 run N mode *0 platinum*
Also who up for wasting all these gold in base gacha ?

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So like last week time to get baseball bat ready to *WHACK* anyone who got 2+ platinum
My result: 14 gold in 7 run N mode *0 platinum*
Also who up for wasting all these gold in base gacha ?

uh... I got two platinum armor the first week... and two the second week...

*hides*

I haven't got any this week I swear!

 

[Kaa]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So I recently started this, and I got a platinum armor from today's daily quest, I have 5 silver spirits but only one gold. Should I save the armor until I have enough gold spirits, or boost a silver unit right away? From gold units I have Princess Themis, Conrad and Garett

 

[Haunter7]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So like last week time to get baseball bat ready to *WHACK* anyone who got 2+ platinum
My result: 14 gold in 7 run N mode *0 platinum*
Also who up for wasting all these gold in base gacha ?

1 gold in 4 runs, I'm totally up for wasting it

 

[sabotagge]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

So I recently started this, and I got a platinum armor from today's daily quest, I have 5 silver spirits but only one gold. Should I save the armor until I have enough gold spirits, or boost a silver unit right away? From gold units I have Princess Themis, Conrad and Garett

I would save it until you get 2 more golden fairies they are not that hard to come by,tomorrow daily is to get fairies and the challenge quest also drops them starting on Mens Battle.

 

[Sisulart]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Wow 5 runs of H map 3* and not a single plat armour, got only 1 plat in 3 weeks.