[Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

[Bluts]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Just experienced a total freeze in the matches after hitting once ...

 

[OnyxShadow]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

All what I said was for long term, so people won't regret their actions earlier ingame.

That's why I only check 4M stats of cards. If you compare

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it become obvious that Rebecca is better, even with much lower crit.

sir drake, Riza is good, but only if you get another 3 copies of her.

I never played the Japanese version of this game so my experience is limited to my 5 weeks on English. However, it seems like 4M isn't really going to be a thing except with SSR cards. If this English version goes long enough without adding SSRs, I'm going to quit it before I would have 3x 4M SR. Once I start getting SSRs there's no way I'm wasting XP on SRs.

On another note, looking at the Japanese wiki it still looks like Sharo is AT LEAST competitive with Rebecca even at 4M despite being a lower tier card.

 

[Bertinan]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Are they really removing loli content?

 

[tenshiryu]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Well if you've already decided to handicap 99% of the cards you'll own good luck with that.

Rng makes Sharo worse than Rebecca simple as that. Sharo's low init means she usually wont spike enough to keep up with Rebecca.

 

[OnyxShadow]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Well if you've already decided to handicap 99% of the cards you'll own good luck with that.

Rng makes Sharo worse than Rebecca simple as that. Sharo's low init means she usually wont spike enough to keep up with Rebecca.

What handicap?

Rebecca doesn't have high init, either. Average at best. And basement low crit.

 

[tenshiryu]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Well if you think trying to go keep up with every one else's 4m cards with cards that are not isnt a handicap I dont know what to tell you. I'll just add there is a reason why the list of SRs are longer than c,r, and ssr cards lists combined. Unless you plan buying a few 100 tickets or basically win LoV version of the lottery your gonna be waiting quite a while before you start 4maxing cards.

And neither of those stats matter in this case, neither cards a gonna crit or use skills much meaning the one with the higher damage is gonna win 9/10 times.

 

[OnyxShadow]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Well if you think trying to go keep up with every one else's 4m cards with cards that are not isnt a handicap I dont know what to tell you. I'll just add there is a reason why the list of SRs are longer than c,r, and ssr cards lists combined. Unless you plan buying a few 100 tickets or basically win LoV version of the lottery your gonna be waiting quite a while before you start 4maxing cards.

And neither of those stats matter in this case, neither cards a gonna crit or use skills much meaning the one with the higher damage is gonna win 9/10 times.

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Neither of us knows when SSRs are coming out or what their availability will be like. Its pointless to debate something with this many variables. I think we both understand each other's philosophy on the issue, though.

As for the R vs. SR debate its really a question of math, and neither of us has really made a compelling case on that front. I mentioned a few numbers, but its not like we have a simulator we can run the two cards through and see which performs best.

 

[hrpgheaven]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

1. Valkyries attacks only 2 times in pvp, your character 3 times.
2. There is no problems to get good (for now) cards (gold lottery only valks excluded).
3. Doesn't matter.
4. Only matters in exploration.
5. Others? You even doesn't bother to describe it, so it even less important. It means they're doesn't matter also.

1. You're, AGAIN, incorrect.
2. Good for now means sucks for later, and even at good for now, R's > SR's in short term.
3. 35 levels worth of XP doesn't matter...? (Each of those levels from 45 to 50 is not the same as 1 to 2, it's TONS of XP, literally can take you an extra 2 week ~ 1 month).
4. How does it only matter in Exploration? Do you have enough Charisma to equip three SR++'s right now?
5. They aren't as strong arguments as the ones I mentioned above, but if you're going to cherry pick those, why bother.

But OnyxShadow already did a good job explaining what I said before.

Even at 4M, Sophie shits on Rebecca. Ain't nobody got time to 4M Rebecca, got Yukinas hogging all the waters.

 

[Bluts]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Everyone is talkin bout Sharo and Rebecca xD
I'll tell ya why Rebecca is better than Sharo for me - because I have 6 Rebecca's and uhm 0 Sharo's (which is infinitely better) aaand I have 138 char which was not that hard to make xD
Btw I also have only 1 Rina, so Pandeon doesn't give me anything but books lol

 

[clavat_k]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

so.....should we update the wiki with some data?

i could get 2 more copies of Sophie to check her stats as a fully evolved at lvl 1

 

[RealNiqqa]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

All about the eye candy for me. I'm still happy I got 4 of Sharo and Rebecca... Just gotta max them now Q_Q

 

[hanthiec]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Hi guys, if your friend list sill have slot, feel free to add me: hanthiec and hanthiec00 . Played LoW for a long time and now want to try to play from the beginning. I'm around Lv20 but I will be strong fast. Nice to meet you, friend!

 

[sir drake]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

so after 30 days you only get 1 login bonus?
That's kind of a pity

 

[Zodiark69]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

so after 30 days you only get 1 login bonus?
That's kind of a pity

Ye. Even on the Jap version it's like that.

 

[sir drake]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

i see
must've forgotten about that since it's been ages since i played the jap version

 

[krisslanza]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Ye. Even on the Jap version it's like that.

Which I guess means you need to not play a day to reset it to have... better rewards, I guess?

 

[sir drake]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

Which I guess means you need to not play a day to reset it to have... better rewards, I guess?

problem with skipping a day is that it also resets the amount of login proof you get and i think 30 proof every 5 days is still worth more then most of the gifts you get

 

[RaVeN 777]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

1. You're, AGAIN, incorrect.
2. Good for now means sucks for later, and even at good for now, R's > SR's in short term.
3. 35 levels worth of XP doesn't matter...? (Each of those levels from 45 to 50 is not the same as 1 to 2, it's TONS of XP, literally can take you an extra 2 week ~ 1 month).
4. How does it only matter in Exploration? Do you have enough Charisma to equip three SR++'s right now?
5. They aren't as strong arguments as the ones I mentioned above, but if you're going to cherry pick those, why bother.

But OnyxShadow already did a good job explaining what I said before.

Even at 4M, Sophie shits on Rebecca. Ain't nobody got time to 4M Rebecca, got Yukinas hogging all the waters.

1. Then show me examples. Tested many times with full party and never were more hits than 3/2/2/2.
2,3. Are you planning to play month or two? Don't see any other reason to lvling R instead of SR.
4. Because how much you'll pay for expedition depends on total cost of team. Yes, I could have enough charisma for 3 SR++ (even for 3 SSR++), but don't want waste so many points to charisma since i don't use such team atm.

Sophie is weaker than Sharo... at least she is useful in exploration.

 

[Tyrrandae]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

According to their social media sites, the bug preventing Mega bosses from spawning after beating quest 24 has been fixed.

 

[ryogi07]

Re: [Nutaku] Lord of Valkyrie

I really need to get my hands on a HAXKLEPIOS STAFF. I'm barely doing any damage to the pandeon and the rest. TT^TT