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Re: [アスガル騎士団|RPG]ROBFS4U

Yep. Unfortunately the guy doesn't want even those who legally bought the product to even have a better understanding of the game even through modifying files only.
Basically, you play the game as a Jap fluent, or you play the game with impaired understanding.
The guy doesn't even let even just translation patches go... even if the main game isn't there.
Sigh... that's just nonsense. It's not like the game developer is against people (including non-japanese) buying the game. It's about preventing those, who are less likely to pay for the game, to actually play the game. And while some of his actions are somewhat ridiculous, I can at least understand him. He just does not want that pirates play his game. That's fair enough. Thinking back to someone like the now banned user "anonymous", it seems very reasonable.

Most of those people using translation patches have, in fact, not bought the game. It's unfortunate for those that actually did buy the game, but those are a minority. It's not like he relies on the few dozen to few hundred non-japanese buyers. Also, there is no difference between having the game+patch or just the patch. In the latter case people just get the game from nyaa or somewhere else.

Furthermore, having pirates uploading his games on English (and Chinese) sites does harm his sales, because Japanese people are in turn more likely to pirate the game as well.

On a side note: He actually considered at one point putting up his games on English DLsite. He asked people (in the comments) whether that would be reasonable or not. In the end he did not do this - probably because it would worsen the situation instead of improve it, especially since the game would still be in Japanese - but at least he considered alternatives.

I remember that someone from this forum did contact that guy (somewhere in the other ROBF thread) asking some questions. The game developer actually offered him help - not despite him being non-japanese - but because this person actually bought the game.

Some people here are acting as ignorant as they are pretending the game developer to be.
 

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Re: [アスガル騎士団|RPG]ROBFS4U

While it kind of sucks in a way, it's totally the dev's prerogative if he doesn't want to try to sell to the english speaking community.

However, if your game is not only 1.only in japanese, and 2.actively anti-people who can't understand japanese I really don't think you can expect that group of people to buy your product. At this point, there's really not much benefit for someone like to buy it, and I think it just makes them more likely to pirate it. There's no added value proposition of getting it legit, why would someone buy something they can't even use.

Every single top selling game on the english Dlsite website either has an english version or requires minimal japanese knowledge. Or more case in point for this specific instance, just take a look at Monmusu Quest. That game has a very widely known and available english fan translation, and it's games sit in #10 and #15 with thousands of sales.

Like I said though, it's his business decision though. There's been plenty discussed already about piracy and lost sales by people more informed than me though, just go ahead and search for piracy vs lost sales, it's still an ongoing discussion even in the rest of the gaming world.
 

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The fact that it's not available on the english dlsite forces them to pirate. I can't buy the game on the Japanese dlsite, so what do I do?
 

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Yep. Unfortunately the guy doesn't want even those who legally bought the product to even have a better understanding of the game even through modifying files only.
Basically, you play the game as a Jap fluent, or you play the game with impaired understanding.
The guy doesn't even let even just translation patches go... even if the main game isn't there.


Apparently, anything with that mark mustn't be changed. Even if you paid for it.
I somehow don't think he can actually have a legal copyright on this but...

Yeah he just really hates foreigners for trying to play his stuff. Shame. He makes a fun, interesting game, that is basically ruined by his utter distaste of us.
 

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Re: [アスガル騎士団|RPG]ROBFS4U

Every single top selling game on the english Dlsite website either has an english version or requires minimal japanese knowledge. Or more case in point for this specific instance, just take a look at Monmusu Quest. That game has a very widely known and available english fan translation, and it's games sit in #10 and #15 with thousands of sales.
About Monmusu quest.....Part 1 already apply "Official" English Version.....almost 4 months had passed but the sales....quite disappointment it only increase around 300-400 units (before english version apply it around 1035 units)...... (I know its translation not good as Rogue translation and it already old game.....but man......it official English Version and people does not care much for support the guys who make the game anymore......I just wonder if the Dev give up to continue to do Official English Translation for Next 2 parts already.....)
 
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This game ended up being a mess for me. Main issue being the fact that story quests and side quests are separated now.

After I killed Hel, I had only about half the side quests done. Tasa wished me and Bard luck getting the crown and left our party. Now I'm locked out of Niflheim completely, because Umbala jump no longer works, and Tasa is nowhere to be seen. If I understand correctly, to complete the crown quest I need to cure Bard's....uhm...."problem" first, and to do that I need access to the witch I rescued earlier in Niflheim, who I cant access because "killed Hel, Tasa gone.".

Second thing I hope someone clears up for me: all the panties gathering - what's it for? I handed over 3 or 4 panties to the statue in Louyang, the quest ended, the statue says "I dont need any more". What am I suppost to do with the rest?

And another problem I'm having - access to 3rd level of Gonryun dungeon. What do I need for that?


P.s. and I thought the mini-games would be my biggest headache with this game. This young padawan has much to learn.:(

EDIT: Much to learn, indeed. Finally got to Serin in Geffenia 04, which magically brought Tasa back to party, WHICH enabled access to Niflheim again, and [what I thought was] Gonryun dungeon lv3......WHICH solved my problem about keyitem inventory becoming a panty collection display (except now I'm missing underwear for the second-from-the-right spot in top row). Traded the crow feather in with the zombie, so Umbala jump is available again as well.
 
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About Monmusu quest.....Part 1 already apply "Official" English Version.....almost 4 months had passed but the sales....quite disappointment it only increase around 300-400 units (before english version apply it around 1035 units)...... (I know its translation not good as Rogue translation and it already old game.....but man......it official English Version and people does not care much for support the guys who make the game anymore......I just wonder if the Dev give up to continue to do Official English Translation for Next 2 parts already.....)
Because the market for people who would've bought the game had already been pushed to near maximum saturation back before the official English version was released. Paradox has 700+ downloads despite still being full JP, for a niche genre like Monster Girl and being on DLsite (In the West no less) that is a respectable number. It's not that DLSiteE will ever rival the JP version of the site, but it can provide a not-insignificant amount of downloads basically. There -is- a demand for this type of stuff to be available legally when the games are considered quality.
 

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The fact that it's not available on the english dlsite forces them to pirate. I can't buy the game on the Japanese dlsite, so what do I do?
If your credit card work on the english dlsite, it should work on the japan dlsite.
To register on the japan dlsite, you need a name in Japanese.
You can also use machine translation for register form.
 

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If your credit card work on the english dlsite, it should work on the japan dlsite.
To register on the japan dlsite, you need a name in Japanese.
You can also use machine translation for register form.
Nope, doesn't work, I can confirm, my international credit card doesn't work, tried a hundred times, even called my credit card company about it not working internationally as intended, and nothing.


And i can't find the game anywhere now as well, no torrents, no downloads for the new ROBFS3U update, nuffing.

Im not gonna ask for a Pm, but I just wanted to say that my card doesn't work on that site, which forces me to pirate a lot of games japanese site only -_-
 

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Nope, doesn't work, I can confirm, my international credit card doesn't work, tried a hundred times, even called my credit card company about it not working internationally as intended, and nothing.


And i can't find the game anywhere now as well, no torrents, no downloads for the new ROBFS3U update, nuffing.

Im not gonna ask for a Pm, but I just wanted to say that my card doesn't work on that site, which forces me to pirate a lot of games japanese site only -_-
i absolutly now that feeling mate

brofist
 

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looks like the game its about 75% finished according to the developer in his last post, just missing the final boss and another last events, so still in the waiting line.
 

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Nope, doesn't work, I can confirm, my international credit card doesn't work, tried a hundred times, even called my credit card company about it not working internationally as intended, and nothing.


And i can't find the game anywhere now as well, no torrents, no downloads for the new ROBFS3U update, nuffing.

Im not gonna ask for a Pm, but I just wanted to say that my card doesn't work on that site, which forces me to pirate a lot of games japanese site only -_-
Is it a Mastercard/Visa card? I'm curious, it's weird that your card doesn't work...
 

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I remember that someone from this forum did contact that guy (somewhere in the other ROBF thread) asking some questions. The game developer actually offered him help - not despite him being non-japanese - but because this person actually bought the game.

Some people here are acting as ignorant as they are pretending the game developer to be.
That person who contacted him was me. He was really good about offering me help with the Japanese quiz. He isn't anti-foreigner at all(Okay, I could be wrong about this, but can you blame him?), but he was just protecting himself. I'd be pissed if my shit got pirated, too. Especially, if I put months to a year on the project.

Worse thing is people are justifying piracy for lack of english translation. I understand to some extent if you are barred from purchasing the product via credit card issues, but I really doubt most people would actually give a shit enough to sign up to JP DLSite and buy stuff. It's just easier to wait for uploads and download the game for free, plain and simple.

Good of you to remember that, Bark. :D
 

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How do you contact him?

I maybe need to contact him If I'm stuck at Japanese puzzle game.
BTW, I bought his game.
 

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The Japanese DLSite does not accept my card either, it does work on the English site though. For ROBFS4U I was able to buy the the game via DMM with the same card. If you're having card trouble on dlsite try dmm (it's 20% off there so it's cheaper than dlsite as well). I had to sign up for an account before I could add the game to my cart, it would give an error if I wasn't logged in. This was quite a while back so this may not be the case anymore.

ROBFS3U is basically a demo that covers a bit of the story before ROBFEOY. Gameplay wise it's maybe 30 minutes of content and all it contains are 4-5 enemies that use modified sprites from ROBFS4U. If you're not interested in the story or wouldn't be able to read it, you're not missing anything.
 

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Visa international yeah, dunno if its because im in brazil or something else, at this point, I honestly don't care XD
Well, Visa International should be is international by definition, so yeah it's weird :D
 

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"The guys of umlf swell with a link of torrent or the URL of the English patch; stop it, and serve you it; because do that it is said, a foreigner avoids it; thieves"

K what happened ? :D
 

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"The guys of umlf swell with a link of torrent or the URL of the English patch; stop it, and serve you it; because do that it is said, a foreigner avoids it; thieves"

K what happened ? :D




I don't understand XD
 

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According to him, we are all a bunch of dirty thieving pirates. We are also horrible people who want to have an English translation so we can enjoy his game. Because only thieving pirates enjoy a translation :D

All crappy jokes aside. Only reason I haven't looked into purchasing this game is because lack of translation and the game makers attitude for it.
 
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