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During the free-roam period first time round, I did a solo run through the dungeon. During the run, I ran out of mana thanks to mana drain attacks. That might have screwed me over.

As for durability, it's the usual thing for items. The stuffed animal normally occupies the helmet slot. If it breaks even once, there might be trouble.

Another possibility for the bad end might simply be failing to beat the mage at the graveyard.
I managed to beat the mage on my run...mostly thanks to me cheating my ass off on gold. So I can't say for sure if that has anything to do with it.

Hmm.. at this point, the only things worth looking at is the mp and the durability issue...hmm, guess I'll run through things again carefully.

Wait, by stuffed animal, you mean that white cat that halved her stats when it forcefully equipped itself to her head slot? The damn bastard almost got me killed. Had to run over to the cleric near the start of the zombie-town to get it healed.
 

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Not sure about that. I'm going to spend a little time levelling my character with dungeon runs in order to fill out most of the apprentice skills. I suspect it's something to do with either the police chief or the town mayor since that was hinted at in the text just before the start of the free roam period.

I can't enter the mayor's office at all, even when it's open. Somehow there's a chain of events to get the item required to ward off cold but I've yet to figure out the trigger.
I did go to the mayor once... at dawn, going in leads to a GoR where you become the mayors maid/sex slave

I did get several sex scenes with the police cheif also
 

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The guy really needs to find some volunteers willing to play test his shit and give feedback, or maybe hire an editor so they can tell him to cut back on the enormous amount of bullshit dialogue and other unnecessary garbage cluttering up an otherwise somewhat unique game.
Just going to say I absolutely agree here. I actually had the exact same problem with Make Me Lover; there's a point where there is just too much unnecessary fluff, and it becomes a slog to read through it all. It's telling that, even when I AM invested into the characters, I just get tired of not seeing any action and start skipping through stuff.

The actual game part is great, though there is an excessive reliance on ending conditions when it would be perfectly fine and interesting to play through some of those scenarios, but I guess he had to cut corners somewhere.

Anyone figure out how to get the anti-cold item yet? Obviously, the mayor is out of the question since that route just leads to a GoR. Does it absolutely require you to be a virgin when you meet him or something? (Would be utter bullshit if so, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised.)
 

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All I can say is holy shit. Been a long while since I've had to play seriously on a H-Rpg. Its insanely difficult, but being a Nintendo geek, managed to dust off some of the old skills and eventually pulled me through. A translation would really help, but ultimately, the game style itself and difficulty really are quite a good change of pace. Get rather tired of the run around, get touched, *RAPERAPERAPE* *stand back up* Kill mob. Awesome job from the developer, a bit confusing in areas, especially with the zombie arc, just freaking wow that got really insane really fast. If anybody see's anything for translation plz post! Thank you to all the players here who helped with walkthroughs/Guides really helped me out when I got stuck.
 

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there seems to be a virginity bug,she would became non-virgin for no apparent reasons
 

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Yes, I've had this happen a few times. No idea what causes it tbh.
Just trying to do another play-through this time hopefully with a different path. If anybody has a save with a crap ton of gold at the start, would be most helpful. Really dont feel like grinding out 50 hours of gold again T.T
 

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Urgh,damn gangbang ending
 

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Just to confirm, you have started the fairy forest arc by beating the warrior who tried to sexually assault the girl from the orphanage right? If the time on your menu bar doesn't say "event", then you probably made it using cheat engine and I can't help you.

If you have made it through the arc and have beaten the scorpion, then the queen fairy should be doable since your companions let you in on her weakness.

You CAN cast magic right? Immolation when inflicted deals more damage than the 1500 HP regeneration.

The only thing you need to worry about is towards the end when the fairy queen powers up, the meteor shower she casts is fatal unless you can stop her from acting that turn. That way the quadruple barrier your off-screen companions cast can take effect and save you from nasty attacks thereafter.

I looked up the author's blog for tips on how to handle the fairy queen and the hints above are the easiest way to finish the queen off. One person did it without relying on immolation but that way is much harder and requires more grinding/luck during the battle.
Actually yes I did beat the warrior to start the quest,and no I don't use cheat engine...also I can't cast any short of spells...and the only way I managed to beat the scorpion was seer through pure grinding and the peddler's 3 arrow damage ability.

and from what I surmise the game though entertaining has the most stupid difficulty spikes ever...and unlike demon souls you can't "push" through that barrier with skill..heck even grinding won't help and since I am literally trapped on the forest with no way to go and change my sub-class so I can cast spells..meaning the game pretty much fucked me over on that account...there should at least have a limiter or something that would not let people start the event without at least the basic spell casting abilities...

guess I'll have to drop this game...I've spent more than 4 hours grinding on that forest...to no avail....damn..

anyway thanks for answering my question. have a good day.
 

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I did go to the mayor once... at dawn, going in leads to a GoR where you become the mayors maid/sex slave

I did get several sex scenes with the police cheif also
police cheif need dinner with him few times?

How do you even progress the labrynth? I get to like floor 10 in some ice room, she says something about winter clothes.. and won't go. I bought every single clothes item and she still won't enter...?
same here..... really no idea

no new version i give up atm

a lot bug, sometime cant move out, sometime cant open door, after zombie event heroine lost virgin...
 
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even etigoya.....
 

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This is all I could gather

After the undead invasion you need to talk to Zack at the magic shop or the stuffed animal will run out of juice and you'll get the bad end.
To get past the cold on the 10th floor you need an item from the major, however to avoid rape you need to face him while the thief who stole your bag is tagging along, you can find him in the bank on the second floor, talk to the maid on the first floor first.
To get past the heat on the 20th you need to beat the guardian, take his fire gem and equip it, then you go to the ice palace and go straight on to the ice queen by melting the snowman in front of the door.
Then you get to 30th floor, here you can either beat the guardian and trigger the church siege or face the priest from the zombie invasion by talking to the monument in the cemetery.

Getting to the magic shop as soon as you got past the prologue boss will unlock the magic girl apprentice class, going there again after the zombie invasion will unlock the magic girl.
Talking to the doctor after the zombie invasion will unlock the magic knight apprentice, talking to him again after getting to the 21th floor will unlock the magic knight.
Talking to the priest in the church after the zombie invasion will unlock the sister apprentice.
The adventurer and knight apprentice class will unlock with story progression.

Didn't bother too much with H events because god I need that virgin skill and there's no way I'm losing it.
I can also confirm virginity will disappear randomly during the zombie quest, I think it happens if you visit the house where the soldiers are raping a woman but I'm not sure, if that happens good luck because magic is about the most broken thing in this game, you can easily restore it by editing the game and toggling the nonvirgin flag off if you can do that.

If you need to grind bring either the police chief or the thief to the ice palce, an event where they get kidnapped by Santa Succubus will trigger, follow them by going right and then upward untill you find a wood hut.
Inside you'll face her alone and it's a pretty easy fight with the firewall spell, after that you can use the bed to fully restore your hp/mp without time penalities and she will keep on spawning everytime you enter and exit the hut.
Talk to her will trigger her encounter again but with adds, nothing too hard, wail on her until you are satisfied, she also has a chance to drop the dark flare spell wich sells for a whopping 150kG.
 

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a lot bug
Yeah, does anyone have a more recent version they could share?

I'm at the prologue and the game crashes at the merchant breast groping scene. You can sell some stuff and pay 5000 gold for clothes repair to get around it, but it's still very irritating.
 

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Yeah, does anyone have a more recent version they could share?

I'm at the prologue and the game crashes at the merchant breast groping scene. You can sell some stuff and pay 5000 gold for clothes repair to get around it, but it's still very irritating.
you are missing some sound files download the demo and grab the audio folder
 

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Actually yes I did beat the warrior to start the quest,and no I don't use cheat engine...also I can't cast any short of spells...and the only way I managed to beat the scorpion was seer through pure grinding and the peddler's 3 arrow damage ability.

and from what I surmise the game though entertaining has the most stupid difficulty spikes ever...and unlike demon souls you can't "push" through that barrier with skill..heck even grinding won't help and since I am literally trapped on the forest with no way to go and change my sub-class so I can cast spells..meaning the game pretty much fucked me over on that account...there should at least have a limiter or something that would not let people start the event without at least the basic spell casting abilities...

guess I'll have to drop this game...I've spent more than 4 hours grinding on that forest...to no avail....damn..

anyway thanks for answering my question. have a good day.
Not that people actually read what I post, but I think I mentioned that the fairy forest arc could easily be passed provided you learnt how to cast magic. To do so, visit the magic shop around noon on the 1st day of the free-roam period and talk to the magician. Go to the guild and register yourself with the new class. After that, follow the mage upstairs to the teleport circle and then to the back of the island that he takes you to.

You are then free to spend the rest of the day with him tagging along. He departs from your party at eight so make full use of him to fight scorpions on the beach and get some experience.

The next day at noon, head over to fight the warrior after putting points in fire and lightning spells. It's surprising how much easier the warrior is once the status debuffs from spells take effect. The forest is also much more doable.

Alternatively for those of you who hate the difficulty curve of 1.01. download 1.04. The developer nerfed the difficulty of a lot of bosses at the start even though he managed to finish his own game in 50+ hours at 1.01 difficulty.
 

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This is all I could gather

After the undead invasion you need to talk to Zack at the magic shop or the stuffed animal will run out of juice and you'll get the bad end.
To get past the cold on the 10th floor you need an item from the major, however to avoid rape you need to face him while the thief who stole your bag is tagging along, you can find him in the bank on the second floor, talk to the maid on the first floor first.
To get past the heat on the 20th you need to beat the guardian, take his fire gem and equip it, then you go to the ice palace and go straight on to the ice queen by melting the snowman in front of the door.
Then you get to 30th floor, here you can either beat the guardian and trigger the church siege or face the priest from the zombie invasion by talking to the monument in the cemetery.

Getting to the magic shop as soon as you got past the prologue boss will unlock the magic girl apprentice class, going there again after the zombie invasion will unlock the magic girl.
Talking to the doctor after the zombie invasion will unlock the magic knight apprentice, talking to him again after getting to the 21th floor will unlock the magic knight.
Talking to the priest in the church after the zombie invasion will unlock the sister apprentice.
The adventurer and knight apprentice class will unlock with story progression.

Didn't bother too much with H events because god I need that virgin skill and there's no way I'm losing it.
I can also confirm virginity will disappear randomly during the zombie quest, I think it happens if you visit the house where the soldiers are raping a woman but I'm not sure, if that happens good luck because magic is about the most broken thing in this game, you can easily restore it by editing the game and toggling the nonvirgin flag off if you can do that.

If you need to grind bring either the police chief or the thief to the ice palce, an event where they get kidnapped by Santa Succubus will trigger, follow them by going right and then upward untill you find a wood hut.
Inside you'll face her alone and it's a pretty easy fight with the firewall spell, after that you can use the bed to fully restore your hp/mp without time penalities and she will keep on spawning everytime you enter and exit the hut.
Talk to her will trigger her encounter again but with adds, nothing too hard, wail on her until you are satisfied, she also has a chance to drop the dark flare spell wich sells for a whopping 150kG.
Thanks for that. I now know what causes the brothel ending.

Essentially, the heroine needs a magician class to act as a mana conduit for her stuffed animal. Since I picked up the magician's apprentice class before the zombie invasion, the death flag for lack of mana was dropped.

I forgot the bastard mayor worked at the bank as well. I've already cleared the event with rhyme the first time round but I'll probably get him to tag along after I've leveled a bit and picked up skills. Where exactly is he in the bank the 2nd time round?

You can "graduate" to the magic girl class after the zombie invasion class provided you had it to start with. Whether or not you beat the magician's daughter doesn't matter, but the items she drops makes it more worthwhile to thump her.

I'll check out the doctor at the slums. Thanks for the tip!

Losing virginity during the zombie invasion is only possible when facing the soldiers in the abandoned house who were trying to rape the girl. During battle, if they restrain you and use ANY sexual attack on you that's a loss of virginity straight away. I'm not sure if this is a bug or intentional but that accounts for players' complaints about virginity loss.

With magic, the soldiers are very easy. Without it, prepare to grind to beat them with only adventurer skills. The item 痴漢防止針 can be used to stop them from restraining the heroine and then pulling off sex attacks.
 

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where exactly is that warrior to start the fairy qurest?
 

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ok a little help here i started a quest that i do not even know what to do

when you go out of rphanage i presume there is a small town but once you go out of item shop a nun is being assaulted by a thug- if you defeat the thug seems she ask you something about going to north patway that is a dungeon forest but i have quite a while in there killing everyting but once i reach certain point i fight a plant that is clearly imposible to kill at that point. and thx to started that quest i dont know what to do. time doesnt move and i cannot go outside that place anymore

any help or guide what i need to do there ?
 

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Not that people actually read what I post, but I think I mentioned that the fairy forest arc could easily be passed provided you learnt how to cast magic. To do so, visit the magic shop around noon on the 1st day of the free-roam period and talk to the magician. Go to the guild and register yourself with the new class. After that, follow the mage upstairs to the teleport circle and then to the back of the island that he takes you to.

You are then free to spend the rest of the day with him tagging along. He departs from your party at eight so make full use of him to fight scorpions on the beach and get some experience.

The next day at noon, head over to fight the warrior after putting points in fire and lightning spells. It's surprising how much easier the warrior is once the status debuffs from spells take effect. The forest is also much more doable.

Alternatively for those of you who hate the difficulty curve of 1.01. download 1.04. The developer nerfed the difficulty of a lot of bosses at the start even though he managed to finish his own game in 50+ hours at 1.01 difficulty.
I did read your post on how to obtain the magician sub-class...but the problem with the game still remains...
if someone(pretty much like myself) has not looked at a guide of some shorts(or pretty much like the creator of the game), has prior knowledge as to what is needed and where and also the possible dead ends due to the ridiculous difficulty spikes, the inexplicable class-must haves(that pretty much seem to favor the game creators way of gaming)
and event lock-downs (when you are locked in one place with no way of returning back to fix things and no way to remedy the situation through "hard work" and/or skill) if you do not do it the way the creator of the game imagined without a single warning or explanation on why or how someone is supposed to just KNOW what to do from the what he/she MUST do just because

bottom line when a game pretty much gives you the choice of several classes yet it makes it impossible for you to beat it when you play with the class of your choice just because you "MUST" pick the class the game creator wants...then that is a the sign of an ill coded if not extremely bad game...
imagine if in diablo or other high profile games you could only pass a quest if you say had only a mage and all other classes were doomed to die...wouldn't that make it a crappy game?
this is the situation on this game....it is poorly thought and is NOT really that hard in any way...I always welcome a challenge but this is pretty much a case of play it my way or get the f out...(or for the cases that payed for the game "give me your money and go f yourself)
 

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The real bitch here is the zombies invasion, simply impossible unless you pump up your speed and attack/magic and pray god you're able to kill as many of them before they take their turn, bosses are easier than the groups of 8 enemies you're put against.
After that you have access to gear, refining and grinding wich makes everything a hell of a lot more manageble.
Also in case people didn't notice, pressing LEFT on the skill setup menu will remove that skill and give you back the SPs so you can change your setup depending on the encounter wich can be a lifesaver.

To be honest past the prologue zombie rape the game is actually pretty fun since there's a lot of preparation involved
but the zombies
the zombies
oh dear undead jesus the zombies
the author was drunk when he designed those encounters
 

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nvm seems the quest i activated was the fairy one

but once i finish that quest now my character cannot use skills. and there doesnt seems to be an item to take it off since it isnt a status o_o
if possible someone pleease tell me how to finish not being able to use skills since i am now at invasion and well NO SKILLS are you kidding me??

did i need to do anything to activate my skillls? everytime i enter battle i have an icon of X in a bag X_X
 
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