Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[marcus3708]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

whats the rate of platinum like for the 2nd map? I can beat up to there but Im scared to try the 3rd lvl I imagine those gold or blue armors do 600 + dmg and will just blender my heavy armor units that have only 240 and 340 defense currently. I think alot of those harder missions things do 600 dmg so thats why I want to CC the gold heavy armor unit it will have almost 600 defense at all times in its final form and I think it can keep its skill on at all times looking at the wiki. I know that wont cut it for every map especially places with alot of range monsters or things that can move through any terrain but I know it will go a long way in maps with primarily melee monsters. They will mob onto the heavy armor unit and just get obliterated by the Aoe mage. What is the princes passive? Id rather not spend another week more or less grinding for 1 unit unless I truly believe its worth it. I think getting a couple of those platinum armors would be better along with the gold I thought I remembered seeing something about it costing 200k to class change gold units.

 

[geniusxtra]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

whats the rate of platinum like for the 2nd map? I can beat up to there but Im scared to try the 3rd lvl I imagine those gold or blue armors do 600 + dmg and will just blender my heavy armor units that have only 240 and 340 defense currently. I think alot of those harder missions things do 600 dmg so thats why I want to CC the gold heavy armor unit it will have almost 600 defense at all times in its final form and I think it can keep its skill on at all times looking at the wiki. I know that wont cut it for every map especially places with alot of range monsters or things that can move through any terrain but I know it will go a long way in maps with primarily melee monsters. They will mob onto the heavy armor unit and just get obliterated by the Aoe mage. What is the princes passive? Id rather not spend another week more or less grinding for 1 unit unless I truly believe its worth it. I think getting a couple of those platinum armors would be better along with the gold I thought I remembered seeing something about it costing 200k to class change gold units.

The rate is 5% for 2nd map

 

[marcus3708]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

that is pretty horrid I think I might be better off using my crystals to farm fairies and maybe even using some of them to feed iron units if the bronze drop rate starts to annoy me

 

[arisato minato]

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that is pretty horrid I think I might be better off using my crystals to farm fairies and maybe even using some of them to feed iron units if the bronze drop rate starts to annoy me

It is not high but it is not bad either.

Before the gold daily revamp, only the high tier has platinum drop rate and only 5%.

Now all the gold daily have plat HA drop and much more easy compare to old daily.

My advice is do not skip gold daily map but do not spent any crystal on daily either.

 

[Anelai]

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There's actually quite a few event duelers in the past, you just didn't see them~ (Though we have never seen an event soldier, Valkyrie, or the like)
Karma, Roana, Charlotte, Eda, Hores, Ricca, Claudia

Yep, I joined fast enough to get max cost and 1/5 skill Hores (and I couldn't CC her for the long time, I was lacking mages as much as you all lack archers <3), awesome Ricca (not suitable everywhere since I can't heal her) and Claudia. Others I've seen only at videos (though, I even don't know which one is Karma and Eda)

@hybras, thanks. I will check this out if Fruit tactics wont work (It's already very similar to tactics I am using). Thank you very much. I wasn't really able to think how to 3star it cos you and Fruit were faster

Platinum armor, ha! I haven't seen it since 3 weeks (and I am doing 3rd map easily...) doing only armor map for whole day.

 

[Emries]

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Managed to nab 3 exp cans (plat armors) in the daily this week in 8 or 9 runs (didn't spend any crystals). I generally tend to get 1-2 a week

 

[Petite Soeur]

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(though, I even don't know which one is Karma and Eda)

Karma is either a Platinum Vampire Princess or a Black Immortal Princess. She has a slow attack speed and can't regenerate her health or be healed, but she has high base stats, and a skill that improves her attack and defence for 9-13 seconds. As an Immortal Princess, her skill also makes it impossible for monsters to kill her during its duration (Immortal Princess Karma is basically the ultimate gank and distract unit in the game, and if you have her at skill 4/5-5/5 and a high enough level, she can also solo some boss monsters). (

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is a platinum rogue that has the same skill as Flan/Fran from this event. (

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[Emries]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

Last call for bulk ordering the light novel if you just want the code (so you don't have to pay shipping)!

 

[hybras]

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Hey peeps.

I'm aware of mibbit crapping out on us. Apparently client01 is toast. You'll need to go to the following....

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or

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Using the same method you connected to 01.

 

[TieSKey]

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Why don't u just use a web irc client like this one:

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And make a channel at a free network like rizon?
That way u don't have to deal with caps, ads or whatever.

 

[Emries]

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I've had some issues with kiwi irc in the past. They probably fixed the issues with a few years progress though.
HEXchat is also pretty good

 

[Anelai]

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I am already 3starring 55/7 map using my old tactics. It is easiest and always working. Looks like my Spica needed 2 more lvls to do the trick and 1hit bats. Too bad Fran does not drop (I have one per 5-7 trips, really bad drops).

 

[Emries]

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Last call for bulk ordering the light novel if you just want the code (so you don't have to pay shipping)!

Alright final order is made!

 

[DUnmei]

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Hi all, I'm now allowed to post. I'm new to the game with almost 2 months a play and so far I like it.

At first I had a lot of questions but now is just a few that I hope you can help me. The only four premium gatcha that I have done gave me 1 silver, 2 golds and the feng-shui Marle? but I don´t know what to do with her, the AOE heals is nice but her range is so short even after CC and the healing is decent at max affection and very high lvl therefore is at some point important to lvl up her or should I just do it when I don't have nothing better to do.

Also can I replace valkyries with something else? I don't know why but I don't like them much and in the AW orbs maps seem like they are very important. So far my free platinum rogue and my high cost Claudia are my main duelist and I haven't needed a valkyrie even in the 500 kills mission, but now that I can do higher maps some require someone with a large HP, I remember that the last event I went and put anubis to kill the red cyclops just to be one-shotted and a fun fact was that the rogue dodged 4hits.

Finally, Is the next event the one with the 3x exp? Because I'm running out of space thanks to the last event that allowed me to max affection most of my army so now I'm swimming in gold and platinum fairies and the last ones are still increasing.

 

[hybras]

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Hi all, I'm now allowed to post. I'm new to the game with almost 2 months a play and so far I like it.

At first I had a lot of questions but now is just a few that I hope you can help me. The only four premium gatcha that I have done gave me 1 silver, 2 golds and the feng-shui Marle? but I don´t know what to do with her, the AOE heals is nice but her range is so short even after CC and the healing is decent at max affection and very high lvl therefore is at some point important to lvl up her or should I just do it when I don't have nothing better to do.

Also can I replace valkyries with something else? I don't know why but I don't like them much and in the AW orbs maps seem like they are very important. So far my free platinum rogue and my high cost Claudia are my main duelist and I haven't needed a valkyrie even in the 500 kills mission, but now that I can do higher maps some require someone with a large HP, I remember that the last event I went and put anubis to kill the red cyclops just to be one-shotted and a fun fact was that the rogue dodged 4hits.

Finally, Is the next event the one with the 3x exp? Because I'm running out of space thanks to the last event that allowed me to max affection most of my army so now I'm swimming in gold and platinum fairies and the last ones are still increasing.

Question 1:
Geomancer (Fengshui girl) is a poor healer, very poor healer. But, I recommend you to keep her incase the devs decide to upgrade her (don't feed her away on 3x exp). (This HAS happened before, look at Mikoto). Most people recommend and agree that you should use a normal silver healer or a gold healer (free gIRIS from Petite's signature). So all in all, please bench her for now, it'll make your life easier. Ofcourse, if you like how she looks, by all means you can continue to use her, she's just not very efficient.

Question 2:
Valkyries aren't necessary, I can clear all god maps (AW orb maps) without valkyries. However, if you decide not to use a valkyrie, you need a princess on standby. You can't play this game without using princesses AND valkyries. Why not? Because only those two type units share the ability to resist magic (lower magic damage) and some maps require tanking a lot of magical damage, and your normal heavy armor won't survive very well. Valkyries can be substituted with princesses or thieves. You can use thieves in normal scenarios, princesses when magic bombards you. However in the 500 map, I still recommend you to use valkyries, even if you have a reinforcement soldier, valkyries can generate energy much faster for that map and makes life easier. But ofcourse, you can still complete 500 without a valkyrie, just makes life more difficult. I recommend the yellow armor silver valkyrie on 50CC30 standby whenever you might need her, she's cheap to raise and easy to cost reduce. Which is necessary sometimes because if you deploy a valkyrie, it means you probably need quick energy. (Besides tanking bosses)

Question 3:
Apparently no one knows the exact date, it's speculated the event will start in a month or two. It could be next week, but I think it's unlikely.


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[Petite Soeur]

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Question 3:
Apparently no one knows the exact date, it's speculated the event will start in a month or two. It could be next week, but I think it's unlikely.

While the game's beta began around October 29th 2013, it officially began on November 26th 2013. WankoP said in his interview in the DMM Online Game Playing Guide that November 26th is the date of the game's anniversary (back then he said he didn't have any plans for it).

If they continue their weekly emergency maintenance schedule, then the maintenance for the Anniversary will likely be on the 20th or 27th (the maintenance for the Valentine's event was on the 12th).

 

[companion]

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Geomancer usefulness is situational. Usually it involves incoming AOE damage and not being able to scatter units due to how map is constructed.
But when devs decide to throw such missions, Marle makes life much easier.

Silver valk Misha is almost a must-have unit. Comes in handy often.
Gold and other AW-able valks are up to personal taste. AW class bonus allows them to excel as high cost interceptor but that's something you can manage without.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Question 2:
Valkyries aren't necessary

This shot out at me as I was skimming the thread for updates. Very bad advice, valks are EXTREMELY useful. Not only do they have extremely high attack speed and very balanced stats, but the sortie on kill is needed on several maps and occasionally events. There are some maps where you can't naturally recover sortie and soldiers alone may not save you.

I'd go as far as saying any blind run team should have at least one valk. A lot of people choose Mischa, I prefer Carry. Mischa is one of the best silver duelists for her cost and will have a place in most battles even end game. Valks will be useful on nearly any map for their sortie recover and as disposable units if needed once AW'd since they refund their full sortie cost on retreat. Even before AW, they will likely pay off their cost while they're alive. You could say that even without their class abilities they're pretty solid, and those give them a nice advantage over a lot of duelist types.

Makes me wish the wiki had a "dps against unarmored enemies" or at least attack speed mentioned on their stat pages. I feel like people often underestimate units with high attack speed because their attack rating is usually pretty low. Princess' seem great but you have to remember they're one of the slowest attackers. Valks out damage a lot of units against bosses because of their speed.

Spoiler

Mischa:

Attack with Prince: 610.47
Attack Speed: 0.909 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 554.97

Gold Themis:

Attack with Prince: 499.8
Attack Speed: 0.790 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 393.54

Silver Ninja:

Attack with Prince: 357
Attack Speed: 1.364 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 489

Silver Bandit:

Attack with Prince: 709.24
Attack Speed: 0.725 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 513.94

TLDR: Don't underestimate ninjas and valks lol. Nearly as much damage as a bandit and at range But every class has their niche. Some are meant to shred armored units and some are better for rushes.

 

[TieSKey]

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This shot out at me as I was skimming the thread for updates. Very bad advice, valks are EXTREMELY useful. Not only do they have extremely high attack speed and very balanced stats, but the sortie on kill is needed on several maps and occasionally events. There are some maps where you can't naturally recover sortie and soldiers alone may not save you.

I'd go as far as saying any blind run team should have at least one valk. A lot of people choose Mischa, I prefer Carry. Mischa is one of the best silver duelists for her cost and will have a place in most battles even end game. Valks will be useful on nearly any map for their sortie recover and as disposable units if needed once AW'd since they refund their full sortie cost on retreat. Even before AW, they will likely pay off their cost while they're alive. You could say that even without their class abilities they're pretty solid, and those give them a nice advantage over a lot of duelist types.

Makes me wish the wiki had a "dps against unarmored enemies" or at least attack speed mentioned on their stat pages. I feel like people often underestimate units with high attack speed because their attack rating is usually pretty low. Princess' seem great but you have to remember they're one of the slowest attackers. Valks out damage a lot of units against bosses because of their speed.

Spoiler

Mischa:

Attack with Prince: 610.47
Attack Speed: 0.909 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 554.97

Gold Themis:

Attack with Prince: 499.8
Attack Speed: 0.790 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 393.54

Silver Ninja:

Attack with Prince: 357
Attack Speed: 1.364 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 489

Silver Bandit:

Attack with Prince: 709.24
Attack Speed: 0.725 per second
DPS against unarmored enemy: 513.94

TLDR: Don't underestimate ninjas and valks lol. Nearly as much damage as a bandit and at range But every class has their niche. Some are meant to shred armored units and some are better for rushes.

I absolutely agree with you but EXTREMELY useful is not the same as "necessary"
I'd say the only necessary units are healers and possibly HAs. Everyone else can be replaced by another unit or combination of units. (Of course it would be less efficient and require crazy cost reductions.)


What are the rules to modify the wiki? can't u add the atk speed to the tables?

 

[Petite Soeur]

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What are the rules to modify the wiki? can't u add the atk speed to the tables?

The wiki I frequent has a template that everyone uses. I wouldn't recommend adding your very own tables that would require a change in the template without proposing your idea and receiving permission on the BBS discussion thread here:

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The main problem with DPS information is that a lot of the enemy data is unknown (very few enemy units have 0 defence, and their HP values are often awkward values). Even if a unit deals more damage than another one, it's not as important as the number of blows it would take this unit to slay certain monsters (i.e. a unit that deals 300 damage is as good as a unit that deals 599 damage against a 600 HP enemy).

I'm really hoping that the enemy data and whatever formula they use to increase their stats for harder maps becomes revealed in the future. That would help immensely in figuring out everyone's potential (and when to use alternate Prince titles).

EDIT:
If you want to easily do complicated comparisons between units, there's this simulator:

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(EDIT: Fixed)

Just as a word of warning, not all of the units have all of their values inputted. This is especially important for the Princess-type units; after Claudia was introduced, the WT/CT of a lot of units (mainly princesses) were buffed. For example, Themis has a much shorter WT/CT and each skill level improves her multiplier (2.0x at 5/5).