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Save of Miene collared, blindfolded, and shackled in the thieves' den. One of the guards after breaking the first door actually drops a key for the second door, so I'm not sure if that's the trigger. I did break the second door, but then broke the door to the north (the leader's room?) and lost, which triggered the event.

The blindfold effect is well done. You can't see the enemies around you.
 

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As a total nerd I have to correct everyone who misspelled the fish people's name wrong.

It's Sahuagin. Sa-hua-gin.
 

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Still, it's good game design to have a protagonist you actually want to PROTECT from the rape, instead of just throw her at them...
That's my thinking, and it's exactly what I'm going to try to do even though I have my doubts that it's going to be easy in this game.

Anyway, done with the newer demo. I got to say I'm impressed even more after this demo. The gameplay is very fun, the art is pretty, the music is good (especially the boat battle music), the characters are nice and even with the language barrier, it still made you feel some emotions (especially for Lynn).

If Lynn is still alive, PLEASE let there be a possibility of an happy ending with Miene and Lynn together!

Random stuff: Pringles existed in the middle ages, who knew? :)

For those with better grasp of Japanese than I do... Is there any reason why they didn't attempt to free the three slaves in the boat? I know they had a long talk in there, but I don't understand why they left them there and instead went to make love with each other (I loved that scene but the timing seems strange). Unless the girls said that they were there willingly (???) and that they liked their situation and that this got Miene hot (I don't think Lynn needed much encouragement)? Or that it's considered acceptable and normal in their realm and that Miene and Lynn would be wrong to try to save them? Or that those girls get paid and that it's their job..? It's unlikely to say the least, but I'm just trying to find some explanation.

Regarding the biohazard symbol, I assumed that it was there to tell the sailors not to use that hole because they'd get zapped if they do.


Gameplay stuff: Does the spear have a penality for hitting targets at 1 range? I keep having a ton of problems finishing off the very last enemy even though I thrashed all the others. For example, in the thief haven, if I move into the doorway and keep attacking the enemies further away (priorizing those I can Back Attack), I can take down the whole enemy group except for the guy in front by using about 3 big potions. But I keep missing the last guy over and over again, and it costs like another 3 big potions just to beat him.

For record sake, it is actually possible to escape from the thief's prison if you are level 3, well-prepared and have a fair amount of luck... There might be an easier way but here's the one I found: Buy a ton of big potions, enter the bar, fight in the doorway and stab the thieves at 2-range until you get to level 3 and stop using consumables afterward. Give up as soon as you reach 1 HP.

When you wake up, heal up using your healing spell, then rest for 6 hours so that you get your spells back. You'll instantly get attacked, use Kick to get them off. Whenever one gets on top of you, use Kick instead of the default punch (more damage). When you eventually standing, use the level 2 area spell that hits for around 14 damage each. Then you need to maneuver to reach the bathroom door. Jump over the guy on the left, move next to the door, jump over the guy to the right and into the doorway to the bathroom so that only 1 guy can face you at once, but the second is still diagonal so that you can use the 14 damage spell on both again once it's off cooldown. Finish them off with the level 1 damage spell or regular attacks. Unlock the two closest doors with the key, and rest up until full. Open the west door, beat up the two guys in there just like the first two, pick up your equipment from the chest and rest up again to full. Exit to the northwest, move west until the edge and poke down the enemies at two range as before. Use your remaining consumables as needed. Get out of the thief haven and cheer loudly in victory.

That is what I'm looking for in an h-game like this. Being able to actually escape from such an utterly desperate and horrible situation. It's what I was hoping for and I'm so happy it's here. Big thumbs up!

... But I'm curious if you guys have an easier way to actually escape the place since my way definitively requires some luck to pull off and some hefty preparation...
 

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For those with better grasp of Japanese than I do... Is there any reason why they didn't attempt to free the three slaves in the boat? I know they had a long talk in there, but I don't understand why they left them there and instead went to make love with each other (I loved that scene but the timing seems strange). Unless the girls said that they were there willingly (???) and that they liked their situation and that this got Miene hot (I don't think Lynn needed much encouragement)? Or that it's considered acceptable and normal in their realm and that Miene and Lynn would be wrong to try to save them? Or that those girls get paid and that it's their job..? It's unlikely to say the least, but I'm just trying to find some explanation.

Regarding the biohazard symbol, I assumed that it was there to tell the sailors not to use that hole because they'd get zapped if they do.
I don't have a better grasp of japanese than you (probably!), but from what I did understand with the machine translator, both Miene and Lynn inhaled something in the room that made them horny/sick/whatever. So they had to rush back to Miene's room to relieve themselves.
By the time they wake up, the ship is attacked by Sahuagin, so it's not like they have time to save the slaves!

I'll need to replay the part to see if I missed something, though.
 

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Random stuff: Pringles existed in the middle ages, who knew? :)
That scene made me laugh without even understanding it,
somthing about chilling out flying your fantasy bird monster eating snacks I guess.
 

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That scene made me laugh without even understanding it,
somthing about chilling out flying your fantasy bird monster eating snacks I guess.
Yeah I had a pretty funny mental image of a little girl hopping off the back of a flying dragon (?) and eating Pringles, while talking to a starving and dying girl.

It was kind of funny in my head, especially as Miene seems REALLY carefree.
 

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I don't have a better grasp of japanese than you (probably!), but from what I did understand with the machine translator, both Miene and Lynn inhaled something in the room that made them horny/sick/whatever. So they had to rush back to Miene's room to relieve themselves.
By the time they wake up, the ship is attacked by Sahuagin, so it's not like they have time to save the slaves!

I'll need to replay the part to see if I missed something, though.
They inhaled a pretty strong aphrodisiac, and several men were in the room, so they would've been at a disadvantadge. Miene wanted to rescue them immediately anyway (also apparently the first time she was experienced the aphrodisiac, so she wasn't sure what was happening), but Lynn told her that now wasn't the time.
IIRC, they were planning to rescue them later, but I'm not 100%, and can't check atm.

Oh, and Lynn originally intended to use an antidote on both of them (after getting it from Eko?'s room), but Miene didn't want to be left alone/wanted another wanted another solution/something like that (writing from memory), which combined with her being affected rather strongly herself caused Lynn to overcome her self-restraint with regards to acting on her feeling to Miene :D
 

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ILL, is there any accessible hint for the player if they're forgot the objective?
 

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ILL, is there any accessible hint for the player if they're forgot the objective?
I want to add current Quest List thing in future.

but I'm not 100%, and can't check atm.
you mostly correct.
 
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Ehmmmm I am so lost in this game....

I tried to get beat by the pig and the wolf... didnt work...

I then went to the dragon, going back the other way afterwards, to the bottom south part, at the house, trying to defeat those little dragon things, but they subdue me, having anal sex I think and then when you click on the dragon thingy that is black now an egg comes out....

Went back to the dragon and slept and such... then went back, now I could go to the bridge and the other building part on the bottom.....

at the bridge defeated the enemies... then went to the bottom, where there is also this nun or something at the hole, if I go in I get owned by bandits and get imprisoned, if I dont and go to the ship, then the game ends when I go on the ship.....

Did I miss something, cause to me it feels like everyone has done more on this game then myself???? (or is there a new version after 1.01 that I dont know off???) :eek::confused:
 

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Did I miss something, cause to me it feels like everyone has done more on this game then myself???? (or is there a new version after 1.01 that I dont know off???) :eek::confused:
You missed ver 1.1

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Ehmmmm I am so lost in this game....

I tried to get beat by the pig and the wolf... didnt work...

I then went to the dragon, going back the other way afterwards, to the bottom south part, at the house, trying to defeat those little dragon things, but they subdue me, having anal sex I think and then when you click on the dragon thingy that is black now an egg comes out....

Went back to the dragon and slept and such... then went back, now I could go to the bridge and the other building part on the bottom.....

at the bridge defeated the enemies... then went to the bottom, where there is also this nun or something at the hole, if I go in I get owned by bandits and get imprisoned, if I dont and go to the ship, then the game ends when I go on the ship.....

Did I miss something, cause to me it feels like everyone has done more on this game then myself???? (or is there a new version after 1.01 that I dont know off???) :eek::confused:
Are you playing without a translator? The game is quite complex so it's easy to feel lost. Anyway, in most of the fights in the demo you are supposed to lose, this is just the tutorial and all. They can be won but it requires a bit of luck and ingenuity.

It's strange to have problems with the wolf though. But it depends on what weapon you are using. For example if you are using the halberd you'll miss when attacking enemies 1 square away most of the time.

Also, since Miene it's not a fighter but a Cleric, her real power lies in her spells. If you use them the fight against the boar it's really easy.
 

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I'd say Miene is MEANT to be a warrior-ish type, but her actual stats are more along the lines of a Cleric, as my friend pointed out to me when I told him her stats.

Or maybe she is meant to be a Cleric, but the class name doesn't sound very cleric-y I guess.
 

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I think her class is a variant of paladin, she even starts with a healing spell. And can wear armour, use halberds etc.
 

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I think her class is a variant of paladin, she even starts with a healing spell. And can wear armour, use halberds etc.
Thing is, Clerics do the same thing. They can wear heavy armor and a lot of weapons, as I recall. So not sure if she's based on a Cleric or a Paladin-type.
 

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I think her class is a variant of paladin, she even starts with a healing spell. And can wear armour, use halberds etc.
Her spellcasting is kinda like a sorcerers too. Divine Soul was the cleric equivalent of sorcerer in 3.5 if I remember right (or at least in Neverwinter Nights 2).
 
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All spell casting in this game is "kinda like" a sorcerors. D&P is not D&D, just influenced by it. For example, some of Mienes Lv 2 spells have cooldown times - I don't think there's a D&D rule for that.

As to how to play as Miene... she seems to be a melee oriented fighter with some special abilities due to her being a "Dragon Maiden", and some healing thrown in for good measure.

If you're insisting on using D&D classifications, Miene is probably most like a Bard (specifically, a melee oriented subclass without bard song). That gives sorceror like spells and healing, last I checked - although some of those spells are more like unique racial abilities, I think. Stats are about right for a bard as well.
 
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I'd say Miene is MEANT to be a warrior-ish type, but her actual stats are more along the lines of a Cleric, as my friend pointed out to me when I told him her stats.

Or maybe she is meant to be a Cleric, but the class name doesn't sound very cleric-y I guess.
It depends on what her later skills are, but for now I'd say she is the standard cleric type. She has high wisdom and good mental stats, while her only good physical stat is constitution.

With such low strenght and dexterity she misses most of the time and when she hits the damage is quite low. Not really an effective fighter (also when you account her tendence to lose her armor you'll probably want her away from the frontline... or not! :rolleyes:).

You can invest level up points in strenght and dexterity to make her decent with weapons, but since her skills are based on wisdom and are not influenced by weapons, you'll probably be less effective than a real fighter. But who knows, maybe later skills will buff her enough!
 

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I imagined Miene's Class DragonMaiden is "WarPriest + Sorcerer" .
It's a more unskillfulness , more powerful than Cleric.
and this game is H-RPG. I Was adjusted to match it.

And I was thinking about Miene is Paladin type in the old plot.
for example, loss of power by corruption, etc,etc...
However it was bothersome!
 

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ILL, can we hope for some hentai action with the queen? She have great boobs...
 
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