The Ranting/Debate Thread

[Sin]

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This adds little to the conversation. Are you suggesting that the people posting are not listening to the viewpoints of other people?

I was simply stating I liked the idea/opinion,
I'm add not trying to add to all the multiple discussions going on at the same time, I just read all the treads I can keeping up on humanity.

I'm not one for long windedness unless need be

Ciao.

 

[Copper]

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I am guilty of throwing these at my players at times. But to be fair, I do warn them. ... Of course I do warn them in many ways that what they're doing is really dangerous, including NPCs warning them, dead adventurers in burned up, useless gear, and that little voice in their head telling them that maybe they aren't doing the smartest thing in the world.

But if they ignore all that and still want to throw themselves at a dragon at level 1? I'm not going to stop them.
It's going to derail all my plans and the campaign, but I'm okay with that.

Like I said, party death due to poor choices. Reminds me of the STs story of how she had two PCs, piss drunk, whom she made sober because there was an encounter coming up and what do they do? Go back to the bar and get drunk AGAIN. She was like "Fine, dice penalties all around!" "Wait, what? Why?" *facepalm*
And, well, if they all die, you just restart the campaign with new characters who hopefully won't be as stupid.

That's sort of how Druids are in our games. Though both wizards and druids have made it so that on average once every two weeks we must consult the PV = nRT formula from physics... because steam explosions in confined spaces are no joke...

"That's not how fire works!" "Harry, stop bringing magic into this." "But I'm telling you, if you--" "Harry, we talked about this..." "Fine. Fine." "Okay, so there's one guard left and--" "My barbarian impales him." "Harry..."

Not exactly the way the conversation goes in the book, but close.

 

[OAMP]

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Heh, what's that from? It sounds kind of familiar, but can't put my finger on it.

I should also add, though, that whenever we employ steam explosions it is indeed typically for petty reasons. The one that really codified the trope in our group was when we tried to make an improvised explosion to knock down a cave wall, spent about 30 real life minutes arguing about it, only to find out the wall was an illusion to begin with and we were meant to just walk through it. At that point we blew it up anyway because the smirk on the GM's face needed smeared off

 

[Copper]

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Dresden Files. Pretty sure it was from Summer Knight, but I'm not 100% on that.

 

[lurker]

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Don't forget the classic 'I pull down my pants and piss on the king!' 'Da fu... WHY?!?' 'lolchaotic allignment'

 

[Hopeyouguess62]

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Don't forget the classic 'I pull down my pants and piss on the king!' 'Da fu... WHY?!?' 'lolchaotic allignment'

Relevant comic:

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[Copper]

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Indeed. Indeed.

Had a fellow player like that. Was always bad when she'd get bored with the DM (which happened a lot. Same DM as the paladin explanation above.) so while the party would sit around and debate our next move, hers was usually "Fuckit, I do *this*" The one time she did that, set off explosive runes in a dragon hoard. And yet, it always, somehow, made sense in the context of her character. Usually because she was playing someone who was batshit insane.

 

[OAMP]

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The "worst" we ever did was when we had a part of five. I was playing the token evil teammate who was convinced to go along with the "good" plan for personal gain and loot. At some point in the adventure we also had one of the other players be force shifted to evil as well (secretly) by a cursed cape he picked up.

Anywho, we get near the end of the adventure and find a "little girl", the daughter of a slain important NPC who we were supposed to revere, though we could tell she was possessed, or something... (never found out, thanks to what we did). We found her in a room with a big black void that's radiating evil, probably the boss. The other guy and I, who are out for personal gain, decide we might get a bigger reward by sacrificing the girl rather than curing her. The way we play you get one free action before initiative is rolled if you're starting, and we knew we'd have to cut it close to get the advantage over the other three players. The other guy picks up the girl and tosses her in the pit, to get it out of the way, while I proudly declare it's time to roll, then toss a love potion at the DM's boyfriend, commanding him to become my love slave (eliciting the most wonderful 'no guy on guy for me please!' look on his face ever). The potion hits, and I'm promptly informed "this isn't minecraft, it's not a splash potion..." my the DM. The now sopping wet druid roflpwns the other guy, and I decide to just be done with it and willing jump into the pit and end it all. The boss fight then became the other three vs my reanimated corpse...

 

[XSI]

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Speaking of pen and paper games

Please, please try to keep your GM interested and motivated!
If you're not going to try, then you can't expect the GM to try either.
This situation happened yesterday:

Me: You arrive at the garage of your contact, an old fireman's station that has been repainted over to be an unassuming storage site for old cars. The walls on one side are cracked, with one of the doors dented outward. While you are arriving just a bit later than your contact asked of you, the lights are out except in a single room at the top floor. The doors are all closed. Perhaps you should make your presence known?

Player: "Ding Dong"

And my motivation just flat out died right there. This was after 3 more times that I tried to engage them, including an in-character conversation

 

[OAMP]

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Well I dunno, it could be an instance of a joke just falling on deaf ears, because personally I would have probably started laughing at the simple response, especially if it was delivered in a smart-alec way.

 

[SirOni]

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All this talk reminds me of the first session of the current campaign the group I'm playing with are running. To get to see a survivor of some supernatural plague we had to steal an antique vase from some noble, so our bard decided to visit this noble under the cover of an antiques salesman with a few of the other PCs. They get into his manor easily enough and have an audience with him, during which the bard decided to distract the noble with his magical flying carpet whilst our rogue attempted to magically break into the cabinet containing the vase. He misses that cabinet but manages to break into another and steals an ornate electrum dagger, so to further distract the noble the bard suggested trying out the magical carpet. The noble agreed and the group set off out the door and up into the air, where the bard had the great idea of simply kicking the noble off the carpet and to his doom. A bit of a scuffle happened, and just as the noble was booted off the rug his guise slipped and revealed that he was a lich, and instead of plummeting to his death he simply teleported away.

We eventually broke into his manor, slaughtered his undead followers, exploded his young vampire daughter, and murdered him and his wife. Though we never found his phylactery so he'll probably turn up at some point incredibly pissed about what happened to him and the fact that we stripped his manor of anything not nailed down.

 

[XSI]

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Well I dunno, it could be an instance of a joke just falling on deaf ears, because personally I would have probably started laughing at the simple response, especially if it was delivered in a smart-alec way.

Once, yeah, thats sorta amusing
Twice, not really funny

Three times in a row, GM's motivation dies

We eventually broke into his manor, slaughtered his undead followers, exploded his young vampire daughter, and murdered him and his wife. Though we never found his phylactery so he'll probably turn up at some point incredibly pissed about what happened to him and the fact that we stripped his manor of anything not nailed down.

This is quite awesome, and a very good example of what I'd call a great sounding game.
And of course adventurers are going to be adventurers, loot EVERYTHING!
Once a group I was in looted everything not nailed down in a child's bedroom. Teddy bear? Rogue took it. Toy chest? Now our loot chest. Picture of mom and dad? That frame looks shiny, pawn it!

 

[SirOni]

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This is quite awesome, and a very good example of what I'd call a great sounding game.
And of course adventurers are going to be adventurers, loot EVERYTHING!
Once a group I was in looted everything not nailed down in a child's bedroom. Teddy bear? Rogue took it. Toy chest? Now our loot chest. Picture of mom and dad? That frame looks shiny, pawn it!

Yeah, the stuff we looted has paid for pretty much everything we've bought during the game. We managed to steal a shitton of expensive rugs, paintings and statues which, in between our adventures, we've been trying to set up an auction so we can make a ton of money off the rich nobles of the land. Though the money has come more in handy for true resurrection spells as our group, or more specifically everyone aside from me mostly, have found themselves dead on multiple occasions.

We also stole a maul of the titans from the lichs manor, which I've been using to great effect. Mostly smashing in walls and doors to get past puzzles and locks I can't be arsed to deal with, though the occasional ship has fallen to my fury.

 

[Sin]

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All this talk reminds me of the first session of the current campaign the group I'm playing with are running. To get to see a survivor of some supernatural plague we had to steal an antique vase from some noble, so our bard decided to visit this noble under the cover of an antiques salesman with a few of the other PCs. They get into his manor easily enough and have an audience with him, during which the bard decided to distract the noble with his magical flying carpet whilst our rogue attempted to magically break into the cabinet containing the vase. He misses that cabinet but manages to break into another and steals an ornate electrum dagger, so to further distract the noble the bard suggested trying out the magical carpet. The noble agreed and the group set off out the door and up into the air, where the bard had the great idea of simply kicking the noble off the carpet and to his doom. A bit of a scuffle happened, and just as the noble was booted off the rug his guise slipped and revealed that he was a lich, and instead of plummeting to his death he simply teleported away.

We eventually broke into his manor, slaughtered his undead followers, exploded his young vampire daughter, and murdered him and his wife. Though we never found his phylactery so he'll probably turn up at some point incredibly pissed about what happened to him and the fact that we stripped his manor of anything not nailed down.

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Lmfao!
Man you have some good times Oni,
Just reading that was fun thx

 

[SirOni]

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I've got a whole host of them, I've been chronicling the sessions my group has played so far. I've still got the latest session to write up but the sessions we've played so far can be found

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One of my favourites is when one of the PCs decided to use a high level spell that he had never heard of, nor read about prior to its usage, and the resulting hilarity that it caused.

 

[Sin]

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I've got a whole host of them, I've been chronicling the sessions my group has played so far. I've still got the latest session to write up but the sessions we've played so far can be found

You must be registered to see the links

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One of my favourites is when one of the PCs decided to use a high level spell that he had never heard of, nor read about prior to its usage, and the resulting hilarity that it caused.

Thx I'll check them out
(Love reading great material.)

 

[OAMP]

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Yeah, my sister is almost a real life klepto, and she tends to play bards or rouges who steal everything...

We also have a rule, too, to never *read* anything, because it might be exploding runes... (fool us once...)

 

[Sin]

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Yeah, my sister is almost a real life klepto, and she tends to play bards or rouges who steal everything...

We also have a rule, too, to never *read* anything, because it might be exploding runes... (fool us once...)

Lmfao, how do you translate it then?

 

[Copper]

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Something similar in a game I was in. Same DM as likes putting us in situations where the ways out are character death, party death, or /ragequit. Tended to be situations where scrolls and occasionally potions would explode when they were opened and/or read. I think there was a situation where one of the players was badgering mine to open what he thought was a vital piece of information. Well, surprise, I opened it and there was a boom. And then he got pissed at *me* because I was the one who read it. It was like "Y'know what, dude...stfu. You can't even be arsed to roll your hit points every level."

True story that, too. Same player. I don't remember how it came up, but pretty sure he was playing a fighter and something happened and the DM goes "You're level 10, how do you only have 15 hit points?!" Turns out, yeah. Every time he leveled, he NEVER ROLLED FOR THEM. (DM was also a stickler and insisted on watching our HP rolls, so I can see how it got missed, but still...)

Then there was the mage who got hit with...something, god knows what and the DM goes "How did you survive that?" "I had enough hit points." "To have enough hit points, you would have had to roll max points EVERY LEVEL, not to mention have a con bonus of at least +2. Give me your sheet." Player was summarily accused of cheating (which, I wouldn't put it past him) and quit the game.

 

[OAMP]

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Lmfao, how do you translate it then?

Translate what? We summarily destroy them ourselves, typically, heh.

@Copper: Yeah, we've tended to have tank druids too, which may at first appear cheaty. They have all been legit, though, observed by all, and funnily enough the rolls always give them the same flaw. It's happened about 6ish times total, and of those character builds, 3 had charisma scores of 5. Yes, just a 5...