Member Announcements Thread

[Hentaispider]

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Remember that you get more points if people wet themselves than if you kill them.

 

[Chibichibi]

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What if they wet themselves before i beat them to death with a 200$ text book?

 

[Hentaispider]

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What if they wet themselves before i beat them to death with a 200$ text book?

Only counts if the book isn't damaged.

 

[Chibichibi]

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Only counts if the book isn't damaged.

Hrm. I could do that...

does blood count as damage?

 

[Hentaispider]

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If it affects readability, yes.

 

[Sinfulwolf]

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We can't prove that they wet themselves before you beat them if they do in fact die, as upon death the body relaxes and the corpse releases the fecal matter and urine stored inside. So no extra points upon death.

 

[Wonderboy]

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Hi everyone, I'm kinda late, but please bear with me.
On the topic of timetravel.
1. Mostly directed at Incubus and OAMP's discussion. Inc, Time is not a dimension. It can be treated as such in many models, and it has many similar properties, but it is sadly not a dimension.

2. I just thought I'd higlight a very fundamental problem with all of this...

If you travel back in time, do you exist? Do the molecules that you are made of exist? If the answer is yes, then that means you are breaking the law of energy conservation does it not? After all the total energy of a system has to remain constant unless another system is interacting with it. And according to that law you therefore force, either the exclusion of the possibillity of timetravel, or you force the differentiation between the universe in two different times to become two different systems. But this in turn makes it necessary to accept not only multiple universes, but infinite universes, as every given moment in time you can split a universe off from our own.

Hope someone gets what I'm trying to say... Heck, I hope someone can be bothered to read it...

 

[Pale]

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If you travel back in time, do you exist? Do the molecules that you are made of exist? If the answer is yes, then that means you are breaking the law of energy conservation does it not? After all the total energy of a system has to remain constant unless another system is interacting with it. And according to that law you therefore force, either the exclusion of the possibillity of timetravel, or you force the differentiation between the universe in two different times to become two different systems. But this in turn makes it necessary to accept not only multiple universes, but infinite universes, as every given moment in time you can split a universe off from our own.

Nice.. but you can can't consider "The present" to be a closed system, as it's in a constant state of flux. You can, however, consider the universe to be a closed system.. as long as you include all past, all present, and all future -> all times existing simultaneously. After all, it's only our perspective that limits us to the present, or indeed, to the very concept of "time" differentiating one event from another.

With that in mind, you can see that everything EVER is a closed system, and therefore by moving around within it, you're not affecting the total energy.. just moving it about.

P

 

[Wonderboy]

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Aaah, but you see, herin lies the problem.

There is no set future. At its simplest I guess you can look at it this way: If time is a line we travel along and there are things that exist on that line, and there are events that happen on that line. Then that's fine. But the moment you travel back, the future does not exist. Just by being present, you displace particles that would in your future be elsewhere. That presence in itself is proof that the future you come from is not the same future as the one that lies ahead of you. In the moment, there is no timemachine, there is no future you, there is only the present and your existence in it. If you shoot your father, preventing you from being born, all you do is change the present. Because as I said, the future does not exist. The future you doesn't go back in time, the present you however has already done so. After all, time is just our observation of the processes that happen in space. The past exists only as an illusion, what we observe is the information that lives on in the particles that have interacted.

So I say again, if you have a piece of matter, and you send it back in time, then you have two. Does that not violate our current laws of the universe?

Please correct me if this makes no sence, I'm up way past my bedtime...

 

[OAMP]

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I actually agree with both of you, or atleast think you both have valid points. Reading Wonderboy's I wondered if transfering energy and whatnot via timetravel would even really quallify as transfering or loss.

Also, scientific laws aren't set in stone.

 

[Pale]

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Aaah, but you see, herin lies the problem.

There is no set future. At its simplest I guess you can look at it this way: If time is a line we travel along and there are things that exist on that line, and there are events that happen on that line. Then that's fine. But the moment you travel back, the future does not exist. Just by being present, you displace particles that would in your future be elsewhere. That presence in itself is proof that the future you come from is not the same future as the one that lies ahead of you. In the moment, there is no timemachine, there is no future you, there is only the present and your existence in it. If you shoot your father, preventing you from being born, all you do is change the present. Because as I said, the future does not exist. The future you doesn't go back in time, the present you however has already done so. After all, time is just our observation of the processes that happen in space. The past exists only as an illusion, what we observe is the information that lives on in the particles that have interacted.

So I say again, if you have a piece of matter, and you send it back in time, then you have two. Does that not violate our current laws of the universe?

Please correct me if this makes no sence, I'm up way past my bedtime...

Well, you can't spell sense, but apart from that..

What I'm trying to point out is that this logic only works from our frame of reference.. I.E, one limited by time. From a non-temporal point of reference, everything happens simultaneously. Therefore, sending something "back" in time, is more like sending it "across". Just like throwing a ball.. the ball stops existing at Point A (The point from which you time travel), and starts existing at Point B (The point you travel to). The ball which is already existing in B (Your "past self") is NOT the same ball, because it has never existed at A!

I.E, everything is contained with one system. Of course, if you break it down into individual systems, things appear to vanish from one.. but only because they've transferred to another.

P

 

[Chibichibi]

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>.>

<.<

I GOT MY SNAKE TODAY.

That is all.

 

[DarkFire1004]

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Just a question, Chibi. Why exactly are you so excited about this snake?

 

[ToxicShock]

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I think constriction's sexy

 

[Incubus]

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My head still hurts from the first time travel discussion, I'm not getting involved in it again.

Although the headache may be from the hangover...

 

[lurker]

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>.>

<.<

I GOT MY SNAKE TODAY.

That is all.

Snake? Snake?!? SNAAAAAAAKE!!!!!
onaplane

That is all >,>;

 

[DarkFire1004]

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What you wrote:

I think constriction's sexy

What I saw:

I like chokin' a bitch.

 

[Nunu]

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>.>

<.<

I GOT MY SNAKE TODAY.

That is all.

is it a python... called monty?

 

[Chibichibi]

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Because I've always wanted a pet snake, and I got this one dirt cheap. :3

And no, not named Monty. He already has a name. Lestat... the previous owner named him... But yes, he's a ball python. I loves him <3

 

[Wonderboy]

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Well, you can't spell sense, but apart from that..

What I'm trying to point out is that this logic only works from our frame of reference.. I.E, one limited by time. From a non-temporal point of reference, everything happens simultaneously. Therefore, sending something "back" in time, is more like sending it "across". Just like throwing a ball.. the ball stops existing at Point A (The point from which you time travel), and starts existing at Point B (The point you travel to). The ball which is already existing in B (Your "past self") is NOT the same ball, because it has never existed at A!

I.E, everything is contained with one system. Of course, if you break it down into individual systems, things appear to vanish from one.. but only because they've transferred to another.

P

But when you travel back, doesn't the future cease to exist? After all, the future is simply something that has not happened. So in essence what you're saying is that it doesn't break any laws because the future is part of the whole, but do you not then have an infinite number of futures given the infinite number of times you can travel back. But infinite futures in turn leads to the universe as a system being filled with infinite energy...