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Default deepground lab - metroidvania (now on kimochi for 7usd)



DeepGround Lab is now available for 7usd in the azurezero games collection on the kimochi client

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I couldn't buy it, told me there was a problem with the merchants pay pal account.
it couldnt have come at a worse time too, someone finally reported me so i've spent the last half an hour taking down all my paypal links

way to kill a new release, and theyd only seen the blog links, (they didnt know about my tumblr) but they made me sign a thing saying they can just close my account next time so i've had no choice...

heres the dlsite page...

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/.../RJ154018.html

the english page has released it


this has really taking the wind out of my sails though... way to kick a guy when he's down



you can't buy it through paypal anymore (product page still here)

or dlsite here





I started making this game 3 days ago, it was originally gonna be a more linear platformer but before i knew it there were mechanics that wouldn't fit in a linear game, so i figured i may as well roll with it.

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I don't have any simple way of getting screencaps until i reinstall gyazo.
there's no cg in the game yet but currently 4 h animations.


Controls

X to jump
C to fire
arrow keys to move

Q to load


just got the first boss made tonight (2am-9am 17/04)


please try it :3


YOU NEED TO RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR IF YOURE GETTING AN ERROR ON SAVING


I'm not sure i want to do something like pre-orders , so i have to ask you people if you'd want to pre-order this game at 5usd compared to 7+ dollars on release...

DO LET ME KNOW if that's acceptable or not cause its a big risk either way

to be clear, im asking if youd be okay with me offering pre-orders, not if you yourself would pre-order (COMMENT YOUR VOTE PLEASE)

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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

Not too bad. I see a lot of potential. Took a little bit to get used to the ledge jumping but overall the game is fun. Looking forward to all the h animations you have planned!
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Not too bad. I see a lot of potential. Took a little bit to get used to the ledge jumping but overall the game is fun. Looking forward to all the h animations you have planned!
ha, planned... :3

you're free to make suggestions, the problem is finding an ai pattern that works with the gameplay

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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

Dont forget i have a patreon btw, everyone signed on the month of release (and sometimes the month after) get unlocks for each game i make


I've started work on the second area, if i can call the demo the first area.
ideally i'd like the game to be about 5 areas, if i make it too big then it might be hard for people to find their way around and i have no idea how to code an actual metroidvania map... i hope people wont hold it against me

I tried to sprite a foxgirl enemy today but the running on all fours proved too difficult for me, i would like to get some transformation gor in there though.


so far ive sold 26 copies of my other game (link) I'm hoping that picks up though, i have 15 weeks left to make the 1275 i need to pay off my overdraft before it starts building interest (august). I'll probably manage it as long as i keep getting commissions. but it is a little worrying, i really need sales to pick up.

for the first time i was deprived of a good idea because the games hentai, my ideas would've made the plot of this game pretty great but it would also mean the last boss wouldn't have any loss animation as they'd have just killed you instead, and that i cant be doing with.
either way i noted it down in case i make a non h version.


also, i turn 25 on the 24th... so there's that...





I'd really appreciate feedback and comments, cause it really feels like people dont care when only a few communicate with me
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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

Trying the demo - mechanics and design seem solid, unfortunately I'm running into massive input lag issues on my machine.
In a nutshell, sometimes I press jump and a jump happens immediately, sometimes I press jump and the jump happens five seconds later.
Throughout, animation and game happens smoothly, it's just that keyboard inputs don't come in reliably half the time.

Are you perhaps draining the event queue one at a time on each animation frame?
I'm seeing this particularly after holding down an arrow key for some time -
I wonder, perhaps the OS is creating key repeat events, and those hit the queue faster than fps on my crappy machine?
Unfortunately, that means I can't make it past the second screen, as inputs keep cutting out halfway through the jumps...
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Trying the demo - mechanics and design seem solid, unfortunately I'm running into massive input lag issues on my machine.
In a nutshell, sometimes I press jump and a jump happens immediately, sometimes I press jump and the jump happens five seconds later.
Throughout, animation and game happens smoothly, it's just that keyboard inputs don't come in reliably half the time.

Are you perhaps draining the event queue one at a time on each animation frame?
I'm seeing this particularly after holding down an arrow key for some time -
I wonder, perhaps the OS is creating key repeat events, and those hit the queue faster than fps on my crappy machine?
Unfortunately, that means I can't make it past the second screen, as inputs keep cutting out halfway through the jumps...
im using windows 8 here, and i had input problems on my last game but that was only with the mouse... i dont know what you meant by event queue as thats all handled by game maker sorry... I'll try changing the left and right event to the step event to see if that helps (the jumping is already done by step event)

here, try this one https://mega.co.nz/#!q0ojFBqJ!bddqoh...6V1N2-YrJuvk-4 if its no better i don't know whats wrong

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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

Interesting - that build works a lot better.
There's still some occasional lag every once in a while, but nothing game-breaking.

There is one weird thing, collision seems to be slightly off -
when the MC runs into a wall to her left, she sometimes gets stuck and needs to jump above the wall to move -
perhaps some rounding error where the game now thinks I'm inside the wall rather than just next to it.

Other than that, things seem to be working just fine, though.
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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

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Interesting - that build works a lot better.
There's still some occasional lag every once in a while, but nothing game-breaking.

There is one weird thing, collision seems to be slightly off -
when the MC runs into a wall to her left, she sometimes gets stuck and needs to jump above the wall to move -
perhaps some rounding error where the game now thinks I'm inside the wall rather than just next to it.

Other than that, things seem to be working just fine, though.
that seems to be a result of a minus where there should be a plus

it'll be fixed in the next upload (i already did it but i'll see if theres anything else first)
ive removed the test worm too,

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https://mega.co.nz/#!b85y2CAS!WSDtT_...p70bFAgRrNo2w0

does this version fix that issue?
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Default Re: deepground lab - metroidvania(wip)

Cool, now chimney-jumping works and I can get to the rest of the demo.
Neat stuff! This is certainly a good improvement over some of the older games.

Remaining bugs I noticed, all minor:
- Sometimes the bottom row of pixels in the "press Z to save/activate" texts gets cut off, making it look like "press 7 to save/activate". Jumping fixes it, perhaps a rounding error in vertical alignment?
- The intro doesn't do a good job introducing C as shoot, particularly since you don't actually need it to pass until much later
- The invisible-walls level feels perhaps a bit unfair - I wonder if it would be enough to make blocks appear after shooting them, though I guess the pattern isn't that hard once you found it.
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Cool, now chimney-jumping works and I can get to the rest of the demo.
Neat stuff! This is certainly a good improvement over some of the older games.

Remaining bugs I noticed, all minor:
- Sometimes the bottom row of pixels in the "press Z to save/activate" texts gets cut off, making it look like "press 7 to save/activate". Jumping fixes it, perhaps a rounding error in vertical alignment?
- The intro doesn't do a good job introducing C as shoot, particularly since you don't actually need it to pass until much later
- The invisible-walls level feels perhaps a bit unfair - I wonder if it would be enough to make blocks appear after shooting them, though I guess the pattern isn't that hard once you found it.
theyre not deliberately invisible, i just forgot to tile them after making my normal block invisible (for the new area with fuzzy edges on the tiles)
ive tiled it now but i havent gotten round to uploading another version yet. maybe i should include one of those destructable walls in the first room for the C to shoot, but i dunno yet

hmm... food for thought anyway, thanks for your feedback as always

https://mega.co.nz/#!bl5SBQLD!wFqggD...HxR3cx2xqSgnGM

:3 rooms been tiled now :3
forgot to ask what do people think of the shot charge system? i figured it was better to let you fire faster in repetition but need to wait to shoot again

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also, would people prefer i do game over cg for this or is all sprites better?
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also, would people prefer i do game over cg for this or is all sprites better?
I prefer all sprites

Also, are we unable to shoot the slime girl? Everytime the bullet went near her, she just jump and jump.
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I prefer all sprites

Also, are we unable to shoot the slime girl? Everytime the bullet went near her, she just jump and jump.
hint on how to kill them: she always jumps when one gets close, ALWAYS...
also is that high dog breeder, akane in your avatar? i'm currently running amaterasu legion :3
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hint on how to kill them: she always jumps when one gets close, ALWAYS...
also is that high dog breeder, akane in your avatar? i'm currently running amaterasu legion :3
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