USA to ban all pornography (SISEA).

[Turrican]

Guys, I guess you know about the PornHub apocalypse, sex trafficking charges etc ... and it had to adjust its (shitty) guidelines, plus payment services were blocked? Well ... that is bad now in the USA they are making a bill regulating all pornography sites in the USA with a bill called SISEA (Stop Internet Sexual Explotation Act).

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If this law were to pass, not ONLY all porn authors, porn sites operating in the USA will be affected, but also American hentai or furry artists will be banned, even if it is not written that they prohibit loli, shota, furry, milf , etc... BUT HOW CAN YOU GET CONSENT TO A FICTIOUS CHARACTER?

There is to worry because sites like PornHub, YouPorn etc are regulated ... but what will Twitter and Patreon do? They will probably banish any pornographic posts to avoid trouble rather than follow these guidelines as vague as the universe (so Patreon fulfilled his desire to get rid of porn artists).

This law will NOT STOP the trafficking of sex on minors or non-consensuals, THIS WILL WORSE AN ALREADY DESPERATE SITUATION OF ITS, as well as many artists will pack their bags and hope that NO NATION will emulate this law.

 

[SoulLess Child]

someone on another site mentioned the stupidity of doing this during lockdown (and/or right after).

and this kinda punch at "Thought Police" level.

 

[super_slicer]

Thoughts on the single-pager:
Point 4 is DOA since tube sites have been trying to prevent it for years and failed, they want that return traffic but there's quite a few ways of grabbing content off those even with the strictest measures. Because, surprise, in order for your computer to display say an image, the image has to be ON your computer which means your computer has to download it.

Point 6 is also DOA. The people who wrote this obviously don't understand how computers work or what they're capable of. This would require a pretty advanced AI to recognize video content.

Point 8 is going to take quite a while to implement as you essentially need to create a "department of non-consent". The 90 day deadline won't even be enough for them to get the funding for the equipment and personnel approved.

This is an asinine PR stunt, these fuckin morons are trying to bullshit their way through creating a bill without talking to anyone who knows anything about computers, the internet or a database. Like the UK's (I think it was them ) 'internet filter', all political theater and no knowledge. If one of these assholes is a senator for your state, or your senators vote to pass this pile of dogshit, primary their asses. In fact, write-in dog shit as a candidate and vote for that, you'll be better represented.

 

[Hentaispider]

"All pornography platforms would also be required to disable downloads of videos they host."

That is, effectively, a total ban. After all, if you can watch a video, you can also download it. Even streaming sites don't manage to do that(although they do try).

 

[Turrican]

From what I've heard, it was an anti-porn organization that put pressure on this shit. If I'm not mistaken they are called "Exodux Cry", something like that (I'm not American, forgive me for spelling it wrong). The same ones that made PornHub a shit.

 

[SoulLess Child]

From what I've heard, it was an anti-porn organization that put pressure on this shit. If I'm not mistaken they are called "Exodux Cry", something like that (I'm not American, forgive me for spelling it wrong). The same ones that made PornHub a shit.

PornHub was already shit, their refusal to fix themselves just ended up making things worst for them.

 

[super_slicer]

"All pornography platforms would also be required to disable downloads of videos they host."

That is, effectively, a total ban. After all, if you can watch a video, you can also download it. Even streaming sites don't manage to do that(although they do try).

There is SOME legal precedent to resist restrictions that aren't possible to comply with. At the very least while the law might get/stay on the books through the legislature, the judiciary won't uphold enforcement of it. Pornography has even repeatedly been recognized as part of the first amendment by the U.S. supreme court. With that in mind, attempting to ban it through impossible to follow restrictions seems rather likely to be seen as either gross incompetence ( My vote ) or an attempt to revoke rights granted by the constitution which requires an amendment.

I don't know why that article's talking about trans minority sexworker concerns from twitter when they could talk to any IT worker and an average lawyer.

 

[Turrican]

There is SOME legal precedent to resist restrictions that aren't possible to comply with. At the very least while the law might get/stay on the books through the legislature, the judiciary won't uphold enforcement of it. Pornography has even repeatedly been recognized as part of the first amendment by the U.S. supreme court. With that in mind, attempting to ban it through impossible to follow restrictions seems rather likely to be seen as either gross incompetence ( My vote ) or an attempt to revoke rights granted by the constitution which requires an amendment.

I don't know why that article's talking about trans minority sexworker concerns from twitter when they could talk to any IT worker and an average lawyer.

Yes ... see FOSTA and SESTA two unconstitutional laws (and confirmed by the supreme court), that sex workers win lawsuits if I was not the first or fourth amendment, BUT THESE BITCHES continue to keep this shit of law despite being blatantly declared ILLEGAL.

 

[super_slicer]

Yes ... see FOSTA and SESTA two unconstitutional laws (and confirmed by the supreme court), that sex workers win lawsuits if I was not the first or fourth amendment, BUT THESE BITCHES continue to keep this shit of law despite being blatantly declared ILLEGAL.

Thing is, even though the judiciary can rule a law to be unconstitutional or just not enforce it they can't repeal laws, the legislature ( congress ) has to repeal it themselves.

 

[derakino999]

I am genuinely scared.
Not just for this.

Way back, i have always laughed at people who even uttered the word "pandemic".
Conspiracy paranoids...i thought to myself.

Being that what began marking it, now i keep seeing tiny bits of warning signs here and there... and if that, which was the most outrageous thing, is now a reality, anything can happen.

From this whole mind control 5g vaccine crap, to well, i don't know, just mild changes here and there.

A mid point being, the internet ceasing to be as we know it, i.e. regulated. (In a manner of speaking, because it's more like a purge/nuke).

Eh, i could live with that (without porn). I just hope the concentration camp and/or war scenarios don't happen.
Oh and any health issue of course (pandemic worsening/vaccines side effects, brainwash, etc).

Or a throwback to the <even worse than now> i don't know how to say it... state of precarious human rights countries had? Sorry i don't know the word

Don't mind me guys...i may have gotten... a bit off topic...and a bit...over the top...maybe i am subconsciously wanting to be reassured...heh

Maybe they are taking it like a bet?
Push as hard as they can initially, get watered down as much as we people achieve to with our resistance.

I have always thought of the internet as an infinite vesel of content. And i have always felt marvelled.
Maybe in the near future, a lot could be lost, like the almost death of exhentai lol (not even laughing at.all.)

 

[Serifyn]

This is completely unenforceable but in terms of Hentai, the characters don't have a birth certificate, they don't have an age, they don't exist. This legislation tries to prevent victimization. Well guess what. There is no victim in a drawing.

In the case of porn itself its usually impossible to identify the participants in pornography and the vast majority of it is consensual anyway. furthermore, who is the grand arbiter to decide what constitutes what sexual content is? Even if this could somehow be manageable. Pornography itself is not illegal, it is freedom of expression and therefore possessing it digitally isn't illegal either, even if every front facing website on the internet banned pornography it could still be freely distributed via TOR which is untraceable, even if the authorities managed to track it down, how are they going to get a warrant to get into a house to drop the distribution of legal material?

I agree with Super_Slicer. this is a fantastical virtue signal drafted by people who get off more to restricting other people's civil liberties. So long as the first amendment continues to exist, so will porn, much to the chagrin of neopuritan moral busybodies.

All of this shit really necessitates the creation and usage of decentralized digital currency, which is part of the reason why a single bitcoin has increased in value by $9000 in 11 days when the credit card companies withdrew from Pornhub (as an added fact, 5 years ago 1 Bitcoin was worth about 450 dollars, today it's worth 26,475 dollars which is it's peak, as an asset there is no better bet than Bitcoin right now) . Unlike Fiat currency which governments are printing nonstop these days, bitcoin has real scarcity and it's value can't be decreased on a whim to suit the needs of the country in a short period of time, that added money to the total pool decreases the value of existing money. This literally cannot happen with Bitcoin.

 

[spookysmoke]

This is an asinine PR stunt, these fuckin morons are trying to bullshit their way through creating a bill without talking to anyone who knows anything about computers, the internet or a database. Like the UK's (I think it was them ) 'internet filter', all political theater and no knowledge. If one of these assholes is a senator for your state, or your senators vote to pass this pile of dogshit, primary their asses. In fact, write-in dog shit as a candidate and vote for that, you'll be better represented.

welcome to every gun control bill ever