[Nutaku] Angelic Saga

[Rawr1125]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

See, I'm offensive-minded. My Dark deck would feature heavy-hitters, buffs and cards like Natalie, who can attack the same turn she's played. The strategy is board control through quick and overwhelming force. To me, the idea behind Beckoning Darkness isn't to make the opponent run out, but more to reduce their available tools.

Do forced deck discards go straight to graveyard? If so, you'd need to watch out for decks that rely on that mechanic cardwise.

 

[Jirath]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

I considered doing a dark deck as well. It'd be more of a full defensive dark deck though with the goal to get 5 dark characters out so I can use 3 beckoning darkness. Major problem would be drawing out games long enough to force the opponent to run out of cards. If I could manage to save up for 3 ex shinobi summons as well, that's a potential total of 24 cards discarded from the opponents deck.

Not sure if there's any other cards available for this strategy though. With up to 24 forced discards, the opponent has a good chance of losing their important cards since that's nearly half their deck, not sure how viable the strategy would be though. Not to mention it'd mean every match of yours is long and drawn out.

"All For One" can ruin your day though. You will need trap removers or snoop cards to cover for this.

 

[Rawr1125]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

"All For One" can ruin your day though. You will need trap removers or snoop cards to cover for this.

Isn't All for One a defensive trap? If I never attack I can never proc it can I?

 

[freeko]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Natalie is a very underestimated card. The only one that has haste I believe and though she is overcosted by one slot, her power level is that of a 6 cost card. It can come out of nowhere and blow up that girl on the other side that would normally never fear defeat as you would not have enough power to ever take it down normally otherwise.

My deck is still based around a dark deck, however alot of it was removed for just better cards generally from the fire side of things with a few light cards thrown in as well.

Since there is no reason not to mix colors, just play the best cards possible right?

I never really thought about a defensive deck since you are really not doing anything to actively stop your opponent from just doing nothing but build up enough of a team to actively attack you and bring down your walls one by one. I also forsee this not getting off the ground against my playstyle of ramrod first and ask questions later, I would likely have an early board control and as such be able to leverage that to trade one of my lesser girls for one of your better walls.

 

[Rawr1125]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Natalie is a very underestimated card. The only one that has haste I believe and though she is overcosted by one slot, her power level is that of a 6 cost card. It can come out of nowhere and blow up that girl on the other side that would normally never fear defeat as you would not have enough power to ever take it down normally otherwise.

My deck is still based around a dark deck, however alot of it was removed for just better cards generally from the fire side of things with a few light cards thrown in as well.

Since there is no reason not to mix colors, just play the best cards possible right?

I never really thought about a defensive deck since you are really not doing anything to actively stop your opponent from just doing nothing but build up enough of a team to actively attack you and bring down your walls one by one. I also forsee this not getting off the ground against my playstyle of ramrod first and ask questions later, I would likely have an early board control and as such be able to leverage that to trade one of my lesser girls for one of your better walls.

There's an SR card if I'm not mistaken, with the same skill as Natalie except significantly stronger. Problem being, most free players will probably not own it.

As for your using lesser girls strategy, you're still losing 2 cards to 1 when you're already gonna be losing cards to forced discard, and it can also be countered by never give up or other traps.

 

[Jirath]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Isn't All for One a defensive trap? If I never attack I can never proc it can I?

I've tried stall decks before in other TCGs and what usually happened is that your opponents tend to be more aggressive and will try to overrun you once they have realized what you are doing.

In this game, you can expect a parade of high cost cards or direct LP hitter cards trying to wipe you out. So eventually you will be forced to attack to control the board, unless you have the 16-mana-bomb Shalif.

 

[Rawr1125]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

I've tried stall decks before in other TCGs and what usually happened is that your opponents tend to be more aggressive and will try to overrun you once they have realized what you are doing.

In this game, you can expect a parade of high cost cards or direct LP hitter cards trying to wipe you out. So eventually you will be forced to attack to control the board, unless you have the 16-mana-bomb Shalif.

How many turns can you expect a match to run in other TCGs? If you draw all your force discards, then the match ends at the 14th/15th turn.

 

[moonblack]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Bare Cook Phoebe on the other hand is really useful I think. Even though she's only at 1,000 attack and 1,150 defense she's always playable on turn two and has a nice water damage skill (it'll eventually be +600!). Plus it's a free skill so you'll be able to take out any Okita's that get played on turn three. She's an all around improvement to the normal 4 cost choice Fiore.

Bare Cook Phoebe, Angler Sango, North Sea Warrior Theresa and Disciple of the Cursed Seal Rowle all have a skill cost of 2 mana, so they are not free. Fiore's skill is free and automatic, as are the skills of Sara and Rebbecca. Of the three I find Rebbecca the best (1550/1400 compared to Theresa's 1150/800 - even against Wood elementals Rebbecca is better). At max level Phoebe is slightly better than Fiore but it takes a while to upgrade her and Fiore starts with better stats.



P.S.: Natalie and Onyx both can act as soon as they are summoned in attack mode (just make sure to not summon them in Defense mode by accident). I think there's another character that can also do that but I'm not sure.

 

[Windsilk]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Bare Cook Phoebe, Angler Sango, North Sea Warrior Theresa and Disciple of the Cursed Seal Rowle all have a skill cost of 2 mana, so they are not free. Fiore's skill is free and automatic, as are the skills of Sara and Rebbecca. Of the three I find Rebbecca the best (1550/1400 compared to Theresa's 1150/800 - even against Wood elementals Rebbecca is better). At max level Phoebe is slightly better than Fiore but it takes a while to upgrade her and Fiore starts with better stats.



P.S.: Natalie and Onyx both can act as soon as they are summoned in attack mode (just make sure to not summon them in Defense mode by accident). I think there's another character that can also do that but I'm not sure.

You're right, but all of this is going to change. I'm assuming (maybe wrongly so) that they're going to implement their balance patches over here fairly soon. I'm going off of the Japanese wiki for the game to determine which cards are going to end up where in worthwhileness. Here's an example.

angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%93%E3%83%BC

Bare Cook Phobe has a 0 cost to her skill and it gives +600 damage to water types. This isn't true for us yet, but if we're planning our decks for how the game is going to evolve I think it's important to assume this is going to be how this card is going to function in the future.

You may see a short term loss in power but at the moment we can't even play tournaments and the PvE AI is a joke so it probably won't hurt anyone to build their decks based on future patches.

 

[freeko]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

As for your using lesser girls strategy, you're still losing 2 cards to 1 when you're already gonna be losing cards to forced discard, and it can also be countered by never give up or other traps.

I would be trading 1 for 1 mostly. My second attack generally would destroy whatever it is that is being attacked. Though I still think a defensive minded deck is just not going to be very effective.

The event girl had girls that revealed face down girls, also there is at least one card floating around that just flat destroys traps, along with another that flat destroys a face down girl, so I think the strategy can easily be dealt with if you know you are up against it going in. Otherwise its about 10 cards worth of mana cards as the rest of your deck goes to work instead against the rest of the opponents you would face.

 

[Rawr1125]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

The event girl had girls that revealed face down girls, also there is at least one card floating around that just flat destroys traps, along with another that flat destroys a face down girl, so I think the strategy can easily be dealt with if you know you are up against it going in. Otherwise its about 10 cards worth of mana cards as the rest of your deck goes to work instead against the rest of the opponents you would face.

You're limited to destroying 3 traps with said card, since you can't hold more than 3. Also that's assuming you have 3 of them without any being lost to forced discards. Destroying face down card is above R is it not? Unlikely to encounter it unless you're vs someone who spent enough $$$ to get one or someone who just got lucky. Whereas the cards involved in this dark deck would all be R or below, easily obtainable for a free player.

Also another flaw with your send a weak card, would be you take LP damage every time you do, whereas the defender does not, if you fail to take out every defender and trap, you're not doing LP damage at all unless you can decree/pumpkin girl an enemy, or just deal flat lp damage with skills. Also, playing full defensive doesn't mean you only defend. If there's an opportunity to attack without any penalty then of course you would take it.

 

[Daverost]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

P.S.: Natalie and Onyx both can act as soon as they are summoned in attack mode (just make sure to not summon them in Defense mode by accident). I think there's another character that can also do that but I'm not sure.

That'd be the SR girl that Rawr mentioned.

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[akoss]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Also the EX version of

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. Really weak, but cheap. She's a good minesweeper, which is how I use Natalie currently.

 

[dartred]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

oh wow, are their other cards that get ex versions?

 

[Papster]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

So 14-2 was as far as I could get in the event. No good gacha rolls at all so can't say this event was really worthwhile for me.

 

[Xovian]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

Limited mission disappeared, I was still showing the day behind before I accepted this one, and I did login the first day of event.

Thought this was supposed to be fixed?

 

[freeko]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

The timer below the game screen is stuck at 8 hours. I guess there were 8 hours left on the timer and the day reset to end the event early?

Good riddance if you ask me truth be told.

 

[dartred]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

i have 7:55 on mine though >.>

 

[szarala]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

doomsday clock working for me

 

[shikamaru2]

Re: [Nutaku] Angelic Saga

FIRST POST, THE LURKING IS OVER

Anyways, my timer is at 7:50.
How many people have finished the event???

Also, why'd they make the last 2 scenes so hard to get :')