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szarala

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Re: (Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

So I've got the three cards that seem to draw from this event without paying for event tickets. Bosses I'm pulling are all well above level 100, so there's no chance of drawing one I can potentially beat.

Is there any reason left that I'm missing to spend my stamina in the event spinner, or should I go back to GHQ for the more frequent winning spins and better xp to stamina ratio?
Because of the 8.7M bug, the bulk of your EP is gonna come from friends who haven't been bit by the bug yet.

As for using the event spinner (as opposed to exploration bonus or GHQ), since I have still yet to see ANY evidence that event cards come from it (like Nutaku claimed they do on twitter) the only reasons to use it would be A) for the chance at a focus recovery spin if you're still fighting friends' bosses and B) a cheap way of clearing daily missions (and even then I wonder if it wouldn't be better to just use GHQ for that, since the chance for significant spins is much, much higher)

Things are definitely drying up now as the bulk of my list is now in 8.7M territory and most people have stopped bothering to request help with them (myself included).
 
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Because of the 8.7M bug, the bulk of your EP is gonna come from friends who haven't been bit by the bug yet.

As for using the event spinner (as opposed to exploration bonus or GHQ), since I have still yet to see ANY evidence that event cards come from it (like Nutaku claimed they do on twitter) the only reasons to use it would be A) for the chance at a focus recovery spin if you're still fighting friends' bosses and B) a cheap way of clearing daily missions (and even then I wonder if it wouldn't be better to just use GHQ for that, since the chance for significant spins is much, much higher)

Things are definitely drying up now as the bulk of my list is now in 8.7M territory and most people have stopped bothering to request help with them (myself included).
Yeah, I'm going back to GHQ - at least it takes fewer spins so I can go do something else faster. A) would have been an issue at the beginning of the event, but so few people on my list are still posting beatable bosses that I'm usually around full by the time a new one comes up.

I will say that if you're interested in the "assist" category, having some friends' 8.7m bosses available does help - it looks like that only tracks focus spent assisting and not whether the boss actually dies, so it could be used to keep your assist numbers up if you've got full focus otherwise.

Thinking about looking for some lower level players who might still be working away at more beatable bosses.
 

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Re: (Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

it's funny how pre-event everyone wanted high lvl friends, and now everyone need low lvl friends spawning low lvl bosses :p
 

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I'd kinda be glad if I was still spawning 8.7m bosses. I have to worry about whether or not the 9-10m bosses will die.
 

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it's funny how pre-event everyone wanted high lvl friends, and now everyone need low lvl friends spawning low lvl bosses :p
And end up having no boss to kill or poke because the low lvl become inactive :D

Seriously they could just make an alt just to spawn their own "personal boss" if they want EP and bonus that badly.

BTW, are the two ranking reward cards the very same cards we can get from the gacha? If we can get those from the n gacha then what's the point of wasting cash for what you already have :/
 
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And end up having no boss to kill or poke because the low lvl become inactive :D

Seriously they could just make an alt just to spawn their own "personal bosses" if they want EP and bonuses that badly.

BTW, are the two ranking reward cards the very same cards we can get from the gacha? If we can get those from the n gacha then what's the point of that :/
Idk about you, but my sole purpose of doing this event is for card reveals.
 

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Gotta say, it feels weird to have time during SS for such unnecessary as wasteful things like watching featured h-scenes.
 

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Only 8.7kk bosses spawning... X_X
UPD: 16 in a row. T_T
UPD2: 17...
UPD3: 18 and for now I don't want to use more energy drinks. :D
 
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Rawr1125 said:
Idk about you, but my sole purpose of doing this event is for card reveals.
Yeah the other rewards seem more meaningful. Not "I'm going to spend real money on this" meaningful, but still better than the card.

There's no way I'll end up in the top 100 for the main list, so my main goal atm is to end up in the 101-300 support rankings since 50 R Wild Cards seems way better than the 10 plus a single level for a SR card I've already got at 51-100.

Gromelon said:
Gotta say, it feels weird to have time during SS for such unnecessary as wasteful things like watching featured h-scenes.
I take it from this and other comments made by you and other DMM users that this event is totally outside our level, beyond the bugs? Is there another event type that would have been more suitable for the English version's virtually 100% newbie player base, or was an event this early pretty much guaranteed to crash and burn?
 

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I take it from this and other comments made by you and other DMM users that this event is totally outside our level, beyond the bugs? Is there another event type that would have been more suitable for the English version's virtually 100% newbie player base, or was an event this early pretty much guaranteed to crash and burn?
Clearing Coliseum is rather easy, but I would be most surprised if they started with it: it's like saying "fuck money! here, have all these consumables for free!" Climbing the 200 floor dungeon.. meh, with the window we had to level stamina pool most players would clear it.

SS, on the other hand, is the event done mostly by players with high SED who also has high multiplier. These 8.7kk hp bosses we have due to bug? These are pretty normal later in the event when elimination count goes way up. Lightning bosses from second half, which you have to slay 300 to get limited SR of highest quality - they normally spawn at 10-50kk hp and can go even higher, and live only for 30 minutes.

With our playerbase 2 weeks old and card pool this small? No chance. Even those who got maximum multiplier and 200+k SED would have to buy so much Pudding you could feed a small county with them. This 300 lightning boss card? It will be the single most rare thing in this version of PPS.

Can't say I blame devs for this choice, thou. Great way to milk some value out of players right from the start. Want this shiny rare card? Give us your paycheck and pray it will be enough. :D
 

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DMM players: Do they typically offer the same card from support/EP rankings and is it usually a card you can already obtain, or are they just using placeholder art? Would kind of suck to spend $$ getting a high ranking just to get a card you already have.
 

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Would need a lot of the strongest players together to beat a 10m lightning then. Think the highest I've seen someone do is around 1.6m+ with a full attack, and with 30 mins that's 2 hits max without pudding.
 

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Bummer. Not an inspirational way to start out treating the English language player base. Not sure if I'll be continuing with this game if they actually go through with what you're describing - though I almost never pay for theoretically free to play stuff so I guess I'm not who they're after anyway.
 

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Can't say I blame devs for this choice, thou. Great way to milk some value out of players right from the start. Want this shiny rare card? Give us your paycheck and pray it will be enough. :D
..at the cost of driving those same people away after the event ends in disappointment
 

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..at the cost of driving those same people away after the event ends in disappointment
It's not that big of a deal imo. SS events will be very hard for everyone involved for a few months anyway, first or no first.
 

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It's not that big of a deal imo. SS events will be very hard for everyone involved for a few months anyway, first or no first.
Well, it may be anecdotal, but I imagine other people have similar experiences to mine.. I spent $15 on this event and all I have to show for it is the weaker R slayer card. Add the bugs in on top of that where I feel I can't really participate in what was supposed to be the "easy" phase of the event, and now I feel like a sucker and am not inclined to ever spend money on the game again.

Generally f2ps (and p2ws) have three types of customers: Those who will never spend money, those to whom money is no object and those who may occasionally spend on a special occasion if they enjoy the game and want to support it. I have to imagine the way this event was handled drives the third type away.
 

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DMM players: Do they typically offer the same card from support/EP rankings and is it usually a card you can already obtain, or are they just using placeholder art? Would kind of suck to spend $$ getting a high ranking just to get a card you already have.
First question, yes. The same card that's available as top 1000 for EP is always the same as top 100 for support. I've had friends on DMM who never paid money for the event gacha but still got the top prize just because they put so much effort into assists.

Second, no. The cards they give as prizes for top rank/assists are usually completely unobtainable any other way. It surprises me that they're awarding cards that you can just get from the gacha in the English version. Even moreso that they're giving away Akie as a prize, considering you practically need her to make rank anyway.
 

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Second, no. The cards they give as prizes for top rank/assists are usually completely unobtainable any other way. It surprises me that they're awarding cards that you can just get from the gacha in the English version. Even moreso that they're giving away Akie as a prize, considering you practically need her to make rank anyway.
The wording on that is funky.. particularly "re-issue". I'm wondering if the Akie that's a rank prize counts as a separate Akie with separate level.
 

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Well, it may be anecdotal, but I imagine other people have similar experiences to mine.. I spent $15 on this event and all I have to show for it is the weaker R slayer card.
That's the thing with gatchas. I have little experience from f2p games (only Destiny of Spirits, Aigis, Hellfire and this), but it's common that you don't get nothing with your money. You can throw hundreds of $$$ until you actually get something from it.
 

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Re: (Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

Quick question for your knowledgeable sages of pero.

Am i doing something very wrong with this event?

I'm 65k SED, been more or less helping all the friends i have with bosses, doing my own, pretty consistently active (every day, several hours), and I simply can't fathom how these people have 10+ million EP.

I have 70k. And i've been diligently grinding away. Granted i'm a free player... but I Can't help but feel there's some kind of gimmick or 'strategy' i'm not seeing.

I have only one of the +% event cards (The common one), although I've done 150 normal gachas and haven't even seen any of the others.

Appreciate any input.
Sorry if it was dozens of pages back, i tried a few pages and didn't see much anything.

-Puzzles
 
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