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so I don't know if it's a better deal to have that buff for 15 days, or to use the crystals to farm gold armours on Monday
In terms of 3 crystals for mid tier gold event, you will be looking at 175k+54k. Country to popular optimistic views, the average for the Gold mid tier mission is closer to 1.6x. (Expectation is around 230k ~ 250k)

In terms of 1.5x gold, you should only be using it if and only if you are grinding through maps and refilling stamina with goddess crystal. (For example, before you start a marathon) Otherwise, above is probably preferred.

Note, 24/7 rural gate and using up all your charisma there counts as a marathon even if you don't refill stamina. 15 day = 360 hours = 7200 charisma = 600 runs = 270k.

prince to tank the Ifreet
That's been mentioned, it's a cheaper alternative that demands a CCed soldier which might or might be in your favor since it forces a retreat.

I have not tried using 2 healers just for the tank, but I don't think it would work as there is nothing to kill the gobs in that case.
It's a good alternative if you don't have range extend. This is due to the fact you now have enough time to stack up your skills and deployment cost so that you can retreat one of your healers and reinforce a warlock without worrying about cost. (But yes, Charlotte/Ninja is an excellent choice for new source of damage)

Update: 大地に眠る召喚獣:強鬼 極級 ★3 without Karma or new gold avenger and/or Rachel or Nanaly with skill is impossible atm. Please spend time on another map instead. *Found out the hard way trying to do it without Karma and Nanaly skill activation*

The title Brave give +5% bonus for skill so at lv 50 my prince skill give 7% bonus for all unit when deploay, with Brave title Prince will give 12% bonus right ?
Use search, this has been answered a lot of time.
Answer: It stacks and only applies to Prince. (Prince's buff applies to all units)
 
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Update: 大地に眠る召喚獣:強鬼 極級 ★3 without Karma or new gold avenger and/or Rachel or Nanaly with skill is impossible atm. Please spend time on another map instead. *Found out the hard way trying to do it without Karma or Nanaly skill activation*
I am trying to think of a strategy for this and maybe it is possible to tank him? I assume he has the same aspd as the black oni from the previous map, meaning healer can throw in two heals between each attack. He swings for 2000.

Option 1) It takes over 40 seconds for him to reach rightmost part of the map, so if we could open with healer on the leftmost pillar, she should have a skill ready. With 400-ish defense on the blocker, the healer would have to go up to 800 attack with skill up. Sadly I don't yet have a healer like that, but if someone has something like Kamila with 3/5 skill, why not. Shidisu with prince buff and 2/5 skill should be able to do it as well.

In this option if you place your tank on the second spot from exit, she should be able to kill the first red gobs before black oni reaches her. There is still a lot of free sortie to deploy witches on other two ranged spots.

For people who bought the 1.5 healer bonus this strategy shouldn't be hard at all...

Option 2) Two healers need mere 400 attack each to heal the tank (provided obviously it doesn't get one-shot, which requires hp+def > 2000). This strategy however opens an issue 'ok, so you tank the black oni, but what next'. But maybe there is enough sortie to deal with green onis with melee units / witch on final free pillar / ninja / Charlotte.

I don't know how much time the melee would need to kill the black oni. It has 300 def, which sucks if you don't have a princess (I don't :<). It has around 20000 hp, so a good princess should be able to kill it in around 30 seconds if I am not mistaken, which is before first gargs reach half of the map.

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Either way I am now sitting at 29 stars (1st week, 3 stars on 3sta maps, 2 stars on fast oni extreme). Which of the other 50 stamina maps do you guys think is easier to get at least 1 star on?
 

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I don't know how you have 29 stars but are having trouble with the 50 cost maps. The 50 cost ones are all easier than the 60 cost ones lol. If you can clear the final 3 60 maps, you should be able to 3 star all the 50 maps I think. I almost have and I'm 1 star, 0 star (failed hard because of weak archer/low sortie), 0 star (Haven't tried final map yet, waiting till after Maribelle event) on the final 3 60 charisma cost maps.

Maribelle event soon (I'm sleeping soon so it will be a bit after I wake up), I'm excited :D Hopefully I can snag some silvers I need for CCs. I hope we all do well on it.
 
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I am trying to think of a strategy for this and maybe it is possible to tank him? I assume he has the same aspd as the black oni from the previous map, meaning healer can throw in two heals between each attack. He swings for 2000.
It's tankable, you just need 3 healers with 400+ raw attack each and a max Berenice or someone with even higher hp.

Frankly, it's a waste of time to try to 3 star it without Nanaly's skill and/or Karma. You can do it without one or the other, but not both. If you do want to figure out a strat go ahead, I warned you in advance. Though it was impressive that someone did tank it with Berenice and then took half an hour of afking time to kill it. (Fortunately, he only recorded 2 minute and then stopped the video)

To be honest, all the non ultimate version of the maps are do-able and even easy. Go ahead and attempt those instead. (One should be 3 starring all of them with a decent party to be honest)
 

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Ugh, keep 2-starring the first flame beast map because I can't retreat my units in time (3 black archers shooting at once ain't no joke). I really should start saving up some stamina for the weekend event, but I don't want to forget the exact timing on that map, sigh. :p
 

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千年戦争アイギス 大地に眠る召喚獣:炎獣 極級 ★3 (制限あり)

50+ Attempts on this map were made in order to perfect this strategy. (Proof: 180 Red Gems -> 300 Red Gems)

Limit placed:
1) Deployment point must always be +3~+5 (deployment cost is the least of your worries)
2) No skill activation for Karma. (Replaceable by an unit with HP+DEF = 2550 or you can gambling on an assassin dodging the first attack)
3) No black unit outside of Karma. (Due to the fact I don't have a second unit with HP + DEF > 2550)

Very Long Note:
I have never ever failed so hard on a single map. (more than 40 attempts to perfect this strategy. 180 red gem to 300 red gems)

Limit placed:
1) Deployment point must always be +3~+5 (deployment cost is the least of your worries) (コストに問題ではない)
2) No skill activation for Karma. (カルマスキルなし) (Replaceable by an unit with HP+DEF = 2550 or you can gambling on an assassin dodging (盗賊回避) the first attack)
3) No black unit outside of Karma. (カルマ除外黒ユニットない)

This strategy has harsh demand in terms unit composition:
1) Tank (Lv50CC55~ HP+DEF = 2100) : Riria (リリア), White Lily (白百合騎士テティス), Laila (女山賊ライラ), Roana (ロアナ) or Shidora(シビラ), Oliviera (オリヴィエ)
2) DPS (Lv50CC30~) : Rachel (海賊レイチェル), Bashira (神速の射手バシラ), Elizabeth (賞金稼ぎエリザベート), or Nanaly (白き射手ナナリー), Minerva (伝説の海賊ミネルバ)
3) Princess : Lv40~ Sherry (シェリー) or Lv55~ Themis (テミス)

Even harsher demand in terms of healing:
1) Range Extend Priest : Fedora (狂聖女フェドラ) or Elf Queen (妖精女王シーディス)
2) Switch Healer : Echidna (竜巫女エキドナ) or Shiho (巫女シホ)
3) Healing total : ~2000. (I was at 2470 for 15 seconds due to Shiho)

Execution wise:
1) While you have a lot of freedom in terms of deployment cost, your intercepts must be perfect. Being off in timing will get you wiped.
2) Order of skill activation matters. Order of deployment matters.
3) There's 2 places where execution speed matters. (0:30 ~ 0:35 and 1:50 ~ 2:05) Most of my mistakes are made during these two period since they require perfect execution.
 
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Fck, it was too late when I wrote. Clearly I meant that I have 3starred all the non-extreme versions...

Congrats on the fire beasts extreme !
 
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Fck, it was too late when I wrote. Clearly I meant that I have 3starred all the non-extreme versions...
Figures, the extreme version are indeed much more difficult.

Congrats on the fire beasts extreme !
But ... I cleared it on day one with Nanaly and Karma abuse. x|
 

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But ... I cleared it on day one with Nanaly and Karma abuse. x|
Which was far less impressive, than the current vid.

I think I will now work on adapting your strategy for high def map. To get even 1 star however one needs to almost clear it though. Any tips how to approach this without princesses? I think I will use Charlotte instead of the left one (than I have her short cooldown + being in range of Valery) and Roana to tank the Lich...
 

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Any tips how to approach this without princesses?
1) Swap the Samurai with a Battle Master. (The role of BM and Samurai is interchangeable, hence the bottom right BM can be replaced by a Samurai Master)
2) Swap the position of the Priest and Warlock.
3) You do not need the left Princess with the above setup.
4) Place Charlotte at the spot that the Reinforce Soldier was at.

I would suggest against using anything other than a Princess against the Lich. But Roana is probably the best alternative. What level, HP/ATK is she at?
 

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But Roana is probably the best alternative. What level, HP/ATK is she at?
At level 41 she has 1606 hp and 421 attack (no prince buff). But I don't know how her attack scales with hp. Roughly guessing when she is low on hp it must go into quadriple digits. Obviously I could level her up some more, but that would probably be the only char I can develop until event end.

Thanks for tips!
 

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Everybody prepare your bodies for Maribelle <3 I wonder if the maps will be exactly the same? Have the last "re-do" events been the same as the originals? If so, maybe I should try to find videos for it already.

Roana is really awesome, she's just a bit hard to strengthen past 40-50 since she doesn't CC. I wish her attack bonus showed up when she goes berserk, I'd love to know how high her attack can get. It's hard to judge because you don't know exactly how much defense some enemies have, so her bonus could just be bringing her over the defense cap by a lot, making it seem like she's being boosted a lot. Example:

Her attack at 425, enemy defense at 400, so it looks like she's only doing 25 damage a hit, if she's boosted to 500 attack when low health, it'd look like she's doing 3-4 times more damage. If enemy has no defense though, she could be doing 1200+ damage a hit. Of course that's kind of an extreme example, I'm sure her attack gets buffed by much more than 100 when her health is very low, but it shows the difficulty in figuring it out. Sadly I can't test it on Rural since she doesn't lose enough health. If anybody has a low level Roana, would be a good place to try to test it.

Man I always make mistakes with numbers when I just wake up >.>
 
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Everybody prepare your bodies for Maribelle <3 I wonder if the maps will be exactly the same? Have the last "re-do" events been the same as the originals? If so, maybe I should try to find videos for it already.
Ashurman said that the "Witch's Daughter" event for Belinda was in the exact same state he left it in when they revived it when it comes to which maps he cleared, 3-starred, and got the guaranteed drop from.

For me, I have 3 maps I haven't got 3-stars on, but I already got the guaranteed drop on the 4th map, so I'll have to quickly do the 3rd and 4th map, and then start farming the 5th map for Mariebelle.

Speaking of Belinda, I nearly have her leveled up so I can do the Great Magical War quest. Just need the new silver witch from this event, and maybe one more cost reduction on my Lord Witch Calliope (I saw someone do the map with a team that has the same cost as mine, but his Belinda was at skill 4/5). That map is really tight on unit placement and timing; if you're off by a little bit, you'll fail with the strengthen ranged witch strategies.
 
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Maribelle event get. I was hoping the wiki would already place her event info on the left side of the website since we knew it was coming, but they haven't yet. Is the info hidden somewhere on the website from the first event? Luckily so far it seems so easy I don't need videos lol. Apparently I did 3 star the first map, I think I failed the 2nd map, oh how far we've come since this event first happened, lol.

Yep, Maribelle already my favorite unit lol. Her artist is awesome. She really needs high skill ups because of her specialized nature. She's the only other event unit that can reach Karma's level of amazingness reliably though.

596 attack
682 defense
without Prince buff *drools*
3 block and over 2.2k health as well.

Think I'm gunna just use my 1 stamina remaining after 2 runs of the 6 cost map on silver fairy map, so I can quickly spend crystals on this. Waiting 5 hours for two more runs is a pain with this time limit.
 
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Watch out for those ghosts in the 3rd Maribelle map if you're doing it blind. They walk over your range units and smack them, so better have a healer around.
 

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Geezus, the 5th map is worse than the last map during the Belinda event. I'm going to feel sorry for anyone that's going to spend real money just to marathon this 95 enemy unit slogfest. Though, I got 2-stars because Mariebelle (the blue armour) killed my prince due to me becoming complacent.

I like this team set-up. Instead of the Princess, I had Charlotte down there; she's really useful for this map:


Aside from activating Charlotte's skill, I only need to pay attention towards the end with my team.

@Kroset:
Yeah, those spirit armours gave me nightmares the last time I did that map. They deal magical damage, so they can eat through your heavily armoured characters if you let them pile up on your units.
 

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Geezus, the 5th map is worse than the last map during the Belinda event. I'm going to feel sorry for anyone that's going to spend real money just to marathon this 95 enemy unit slogfest. Though, I got 2-stars because Mariebelle (the blue armour) killed my prince due to me becoming complacent.

I like this team set-up. Instead of the Princess, I had Charlotte down there; she's really useful for this map:


Aside from activating Charlotte's skill, I only need to pay attention towards the end with my team.

@Kroset:
Yeah, those spirit armours gave me nightmares the last time I did that map. They deal magical damage, so they can eat through your heavily armoured characters if you let them pile up on your units.
Woah big magic heavy team needed. I might even use Themis for that like they did. 5+ minute long map x.X



Should be enough I think. CC'd witches ftw. Got 9 units who can hit through armor (Echidna and Charlotte temporarily) with that team. I almost have too many options with that team lol. Don't know if I should use Echidna or Shiho NW of the Prince. Charlotte vs Themis near the bottom, lol. Overall this map seems pretty easy if you have quite a few CC'd witches/mages.
 
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Maribelle event get. I was hoping the wiki would already place her event info on the left side of the website since we knew it was coming, but they haven't yet. Is the info hidden somewhere on the website from the first event? Luckily so far it seems so easy I don't need videos lol. Apparently I did 3 star the first map, I think I failed the 2nd map, oh how far we've come since this event first happened, lol.

Yep, Maribelle already my favorite unit lol. Her artist is awesome. She really needs high skill ups because of her specialized nature. She's the only other event unit that can reach Karma's level of amazingness reliably though.

596 attack
682 defense
without Prince buff *drools*
3 block and over 2.2k health as well.

Think I'm gunna just use my 1 stamina remaining after 2 runs of the 6 cost map on silver fairy map, so I can quickly spend crystals on this. Waiting 5 hours for two more runs is a pain with this time limit.
The link is up there since a couple of days ago, make sure to fully refresh the page XD

Where did u get that stats? the wiki has some odd numbers for her, lower def and atk than Rean (without affection bonus) :S
 

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The link is up there since a couple of days ago, make sure to fully refresh the page XD

Where did u get that stats? the wiki has some odd numbers for her, lower def and atk than Rean (without affection bonus) :S
That's with her skill activation + affection bonus. "Defense 40 seconds attack power increased to 2.0 times (attack and defense increased by 2x)" at max rank and "13 seconds to initial, 25 seconds to recovery" cooldown. So she can become OP for 40 seconds but becomes kind of weak for a bit afterwards. With a low skill level she's nearly useless, you really need her at 4/5 or 5/5 skill. So if you like her, better be ready to farm hard lol.

Yay 3 star first try, just had to activate Shiho's healing twice and eventually drop the Prince for Karma to finish the blue, not too bad. Ah can do it even without dropping the Prince if I use Charlotte instead of Themis down there.

I genuinely feel bad for any enemy that tries to pass my Prince, lol. One time I let the blue knight pass by just to see what would happen, and he got completely rofl stomped before he even made it half way through. Lane of pain... The amount of slowing is hilarious.



And so it begins:

60/5:

1: Nothing
2: Maribelle, Red Gem
3: Bronze HA, Maribelle
4: Red Gem
5: Rean
6: Maribelle, Red Gem
7: Nothing
8: Bronze HA, Maribelle
9: Maribelle
10: Red Gem
11: Nothing
12: Maribelle
13: Rean, Maribelle (Sweet :D)
13: Rean, Red Gem
14: Bronze HA
15: Rean

1: +1 Skill up, -1 cost
2: +1 Skill up
3: Nothing
4: Nothing
5: Nothing
6: -1 cost
7: +1 skill up, -1 cost (Whoooo)
Maribelle: 7/15, Red Gem: 5/15, Rean: 4/15, Bronze HA: 3/15

Skill: 4/5, Cost: 3/4 - 7 fed to main so far.

Ahaha, I was about to cry until 12/13 map, my luck turned around so quickly XD Found enough Rean's to CC her too, nice. Just need a solider now. I'm so used to the -5 cost and 10 skill levels that I thought I was doing bad, just realized a bit ago how well I'm doing on her.
 
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New player are going to cry on those event, i remember when i started, those armored guy was my worst fear, and on the last map there is almost 90 to kill lol, it take soooo much time to do it.

2 Maribelle after clearing all map, now to farm...

4 run, 4 Maribelle, that's already 5, drop rate is pretty good.
6 run, 6 Maribelle, cost -3 skill +3, so much luck today.
 
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