RPG RPG Maker [うさぎめしや / usabox] MaiDenSnow Eve / MaiDenSnow Eve ～さる前夜祭～ (RE115762, RJ115762)

[Harleyquin13]

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Uh....okay, dumb question again. How to change Roland's hair color?

As far as I know, I never found an option to change hair color.

And another question, I have read some people manage to upgrade their equipment up to +30......while I never can get it above +10. Unfortunately, I forgot at which page.

Any suggestion?

Edit function. You need to have made it as far as the cathedral. There'll be a mirror there that you interact it, once it calculates how many points you've earned from killing enemies you will get options to unlock regarding appearance. A lot of these are dependent on conditions such as finishing the game etc.

DragonPaladin and myself have weapons up to +30, from 0 to +9 the scrolls will grant one level automatically but from +10 onwards more scrolls are needed. The main method of upgrading weapons is to visit the dwarf blacksmith, he's definitely found at his workshop accessible from the railway and the caves. Occasionally (depending on luck and how long you stay in a particular dungeon) he can also be found at the gravekeeper's shack, the water-wheel and the city gate safe areas.

If you're relying on the blacksmith, upgrade costs can get VERY expensive especially at the highest levels. For instance 9000+ might be needed to upgrade from +29 to +30 without the help of a few scrolls. Scrolls incidentally lower the upgrade cost if they don't succeed in increasing the weapon's upgrade level.

The blacksmith will only upgrade weapons which have been used extensively and repaired either through vendors or with scrolls.

 

[Zenislez]

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Okay......Finishing the game 1st.

How to finish the game (yeah, sorry for the dumb and keep on asking) if I may ask?
If the English translation and my assumption is correct, I need to defeat all of the boss. But where to find the boss?

I've met three of them.
One is the 1st dungeoun (Wild Hunt)
Second is the....watery dungeoun (That head horse thingie)
Third is the.....one below the cathedral (Mini Daimos I think)

How many boss I have to hunt and where can I find them?

And oh, so using a scroll once you reach +10 has a chance to fail? Never knew of it. Thanks for the information.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Okay......Finishing the game 1st.

How to finish the game (yeah, sorry for the dumb and keep on asking) if I may ask?
If the English translation and my assumption is correct, I need to defeat all of the boss. But where to find the boss?

I've met three of them.
One is the 1st dungeoun (Wild Hunt)
Second is the....watery dungeoun (That head horse thingie)
Third is the.....one below the cathedral (Mini Daimos I think)

How many boss I have to hunt and where can I find them?

And oh, so using a scroll once you reach +10 has a chance to fail? Never knew of it. Thanks for the information.

Belle is in the abandoned city. Look around, she'll pop up earliest around level 7. It's a matter of luck though.

She summons her "husband" Bet first off (werewolf) and then proceeds to cast her huge range of debuffs on you while Bet takes charge of beating you up. Up close Belle can inflict intoxication in addition to the regular stat debuffs. Both are weak to holy attacks and weapons with the silver/魔化 modifier, Bet in addition doesn't like piercing attacks.

There's an armour that is only obtainable from fusion that requires you to lose to Belle but it's better for you to beat Belle first before thinking about getting the item.

The headless count (Durahan in English) is in the sleepless graveyard. He's the toughest and most elusive of the five bosses, the first time I met him was level 12/13.

He's hits REALLY hard and has a huge range of abilities to beat you down with. He can charge you, use an AOE spell which inflicts blind and other nasty ailments, uses a freezing wand and can reverse any negative status effects you inflict on him back on yourself. The worst part is his AI is similar to the Banshee's and he prefers to keep his distance while smashing you with hit-and-run attacks.

You've been warned, so either bring along a powerful melee weapon or a decent pair of handguns/rifle. He's weak to holy and crushing attacks (and the customary silver/魔化 weapons), resistant to bullets, fire, ice, slashing and piercing attacks.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Scrolls incidentally lower the upgrade cost if they don't succeed in increasing the weapon's upgrade level.

That doesn't occur in Makai mode, at least I tried and failed miserably when doing it. Hence again, get your upgrading done in normal, but then you wouldn't be able to get the stars which in the end makes the weapon stronger in Makai than normal

Bosses occurs on floor #7
Except Durahan which occurs on floor #12. And yes, Durahan hits a like a truck, I wouldn't be surprised if Durahan charges at the gate of a castle ... and breaks through it like it's the most logical thing in the world.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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That doesn't occur in Makai mode, at least I tried and failed miserably when doing it. Hence again, get your upgrading done in normal, but then you wouldn't be able to get the stars which in the end makes the weapon stronger in Makai than normal

Bosses occurs on floor #7
Except Durahan which occurs on floor #12. And yes, Durahan hits a like a truck, I wouldn't be surprised if Durahan charges at the gate of a castle ... and breaks through it like it's the most logical thing in the world.

Unless the person in question actually started in Makai mode, it's a safe bet that my advice still holds. Just as well I haven't moved on to Makai yet, I'm still 3 weapons and 2 pieces of equipment short of +30.

I keep seeing the bit about the stars, but I know it doesn't apply in normal. What's the effect on the statistics?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Each star, when done properly is either a +0.1 stats if the gear to negative stats, or a +1 upgrade for stuff like weapons. I am not too clear on it myself, but it allows you to build your weapon above the limit of a regular +30.

 

[Zenislez]

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To be honest with both of you. I think I started in Makai mode.

Roland's starting Hp only 70 compared to some people said that normal mode starting Hp is 170.

And I don't know how to change from makai/normal mode. Whenever I started there are three options and I choose the top one.

And yeowch....going to be a painful boss fight that damn Dullahan. Can he be stunned? Right now my main weapon is +8 Sword Breaker with Stun1, Paralysis1 and Thunder1. While the damage is low against some mons, I usually just change to my Granite Blade.

 

[eccentric2]

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Where does one get magi-tech/mithril 3? I assume makai mode by the respective mobs that drop lvl 2 of them? And how does one add stars to the equipment?

Additionally, does para 2 only drop from arachne/ghoul?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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To be honest with both of you. I think I started in Makai mode..

Roland's starting hp is always 70. Only Lv20+ Roland has 170 HP.
You have started in easy mode by the way, Makai mode resets your level after every run of dungeon.

Where does one get magi-tech/mithril 3?

Add star occurs after repair in makai mode only.

Magi-tech 1 drops in normal as rare drop, Magi-tech drops in normal as super rare drop.
Mithril 3 doesn't exist. Mithril 2 doesn't drop (red essence only). Mithril 1 is a rare drop.

Additionally, does para 2 only drop from arachne/ghoul?

Para 2 doesn't drop. It's a red essence only.

 

[eccentric2]

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I understand that they come as reds but does that mean any monster can drop them or only those specific enemies as reds on an item? I saw you list your weapon containing level 3s of magi-tech and mithril so I thought they were new or something. Is it only one star per item? Thank you for your answers.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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I understand that they come as reds but does that mean any monster can drop them or only those specific enemies as reds on an item? I saw you list your weapon containing level 3s of magi-tech and mithril so I thought they were new or something. Is it only one star per item? Thank you for your answers.

Any enemy might drop them as red essence, or as a drop on the ground. But the rarity is too extreme to be depended upon.

In terms of magi-tech 3 and mithril , that was my bad. I meant to say 2.

In terms of stars, you can get as many as you want. Not sure how they affect affect the equipment though.

 

[Zenislez]

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So basically, playing Makai mode means lower level yet able to get much higher weapon limit while easy mode can't?

Oh boy, so let's start a new game on Makai mode. Er....Makai mode the third choice when you choose a new game right?

Oh, and one more question, why whenever I found and eat a chocolate, the game always freeze up?

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Roland's starting hp is always 70. Only Lv20+ Roland has 170 HP.
You have started in easy mode by the way, Makai mode resets your level after every run of dungeon.


Add star occurs after repair in makai mode only.

Magi-tech 1 drops in normal as rare drop, Magi-tech drops in normal as super rare drop.
Mithril 3 doesn't exist. Mithril 2 doesn't drop (red essence only). Mithril 1 is a rare drop.

Para 2 doesn't drop. It's a red essence only.

If magic-tech refers to 魔装, then the only monster capable of dropping it is the black knight (flying vampire with the ice attacks). Mithril 1 as a yellow drop is from the initiate while mithril 2 will ONLY drop as a red essence in items from said minion.

Another way of obtaining items with red essences is from the blacksmith. His 一品 tab has a small selection of items generated depending on the last visited dungeon and the depths the PC managed to explore. I've seen red essence weapons and armour consistent with the relevant enemy lists from his collection along with outliers like wind1 and silence weapons.

If you want para2 as a red essence drop in items, the only areas applicable are those featuring the ghoul (graveyard, catacombs) and the arachne (railway, caves and catacombs).

Any enemy might drop them as red essence, or as a drop on the ground. But the rarity is too extreme to be depended upon.

In terms of magi-tech 3 and mithril , that was my bad. I meant to say 2.

In terms of stars, you can get as many as you want. Not sure how they affect affect the equipment though.

Not quite any enemy, the drop list is quite specific regarding what essences enemies can drop. It's been speculated that the game occasionally randomises drop items by selecting from a list, hence it's possible for items to have supposedly impossible combinations (e.g. my gothic bustier with 生命３＋水２) as drops from the ground.

So basically, playing Makai mode means lower level yet able to get much higher weapon limit while easy mode can't?

Oh boy, so let's start a new game on Makai mode. Er....Makai mode the third choice when you choose a new game right?

Oh, and one more question, why whenever I found and eat a chocolate, the game always freeze up?

You can't upgrade your weapons in easy mode.
On Makai mode, level-ups are almost meaningless since PC is reset to level 1 when entering a safe area and the level attained out in the dungeon is converted into cash. On the other hand maintenance costs are 4x more expensive than normal (according to DragonPaladin). Most of the time your PC is struggling to earn enough cash to make repairs so upgrades are a luxury you might not be able to afford.

One other note about makai: some monsters will use abilities which were deliberately disabled in the lower difficulties. That's why equipment is so important in helping the PC stay alive longer.

My advice is to start at normal, get some essences and gear going and then challenge Makai only after you are happy with the state of your equipment. I'm running 250+ hours on normal on a second run and still won't change difficulty because I'm not happy with my equipment upgrade level.

The white day chocolates were fixed only in the very latest versions available, otherwise don't eat them since they bugged out your gear.

The sword breaker +8 is somewhat ok, but the damage is too low to take out the count. The granite blade is a better choice but it's going to be slow going if its upgrade level is low and you don't have many essences. If you have guns, it's safer and less painful on your equipment but be prepared to burn through a lot of ammunition.

 

[Zenislez]

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Er.....so after finishing the game, you can get a chance for 2nd run into another difficulty? Something like new game +?

Can it also be done on easy?

And sorry for all the stupid question.

And oh, I do have a gun. A vanguard Lancer +11 but only one slot and I fill it with Paralysis 1. Do you think this gun is good enough?

I also have another one. Gunner's Bloom +11 with two slot (fire1,ice1) but it burns ammo at a ridiculous rate.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Er.....so after finishing the game, you can get a chance for 2nd run into another difficulty? Something like new game +?
Can it also be done on easy?

I haven't touched easy mode, so not sure if you can switch difficulty post game.

And oh, I do have a gun. A vanguard Lancer +11 but only one slot and I fill it with Paralysis 1. Do you think this gun is good enough? I also have another one. Gunner's Bloom +11 with two slot (fire1,ice1) but it burns ammo at a ridiculous rate.

Unfortunately no, Vanguard and Gunner's Bloom are based upon your magic stats (which is the hardest of the 3 offensive stats to raise, with skill being easiest) Despite them looking all cool, you should probably swap to weapons better suited for your build. (I have the strongest magic-based PC in this forum, and I broke strength and skill's 100 yet still didn't break magic's 100 barrier - at 99 ._. )

Strength for melee/2 handed, and skill for thrusting weapon & pistols. Depending on which set of weapons you prefer, you end up building your PC accordingly.

Also, fire 1 and ice 1 doesn't stack. You can only have 1 elemental essence and have it take effect.

 

[Zenislez]

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Ah, I see. I guess still need to go to normal mode then.

And speaking of build, my current build focused mostly on dex (or is it skill?)

And rather than keep asking you guys about it. Anyone know if this game has a wiki or not?

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Er.....so after finishing the game, you can get a chance for 2nd run into another difficulty? Something like new game +?

Can it also be done on easy?

And sorry for all the stupid question.

And oh, I do have a gun. A vanguard Lancer +11 but only one slot and I fill it with Paralysis 1. Do you think this gun is good enough?

I also have another one. Gunner's Bloom +11 with two slot (fire1,ice1) but it burns ammo at a ridiculous rate.

When you gain access to your own room after beating all 5 bosses, one of the areas you can interact with should say something to the effect of moving up a difficulty level to normal. I imagine that's the case since I've been seeing it in normal but have yet to progress.

As already mentioned, weapons can only support one elemental essence at any time. Remove either fire or ice and replace it with stun, paralyze or knockback. The gunner's broom really shines 1-on-1 with high upgrades and the right essences but without the high rate of fire it does less damage per shot than the other rifle-type weapons.

The vanguard is more versatile, but I find it harder to use. Consensus is choose either the vanguard or the gunner's broom but don't use both since there's significant overlap.

To give you an idea of how hard it is to beat the count, the first time I faced him he spawned in a room full of other enemies. As it turns out, he killed practically everyone else with his blood rain skill and ended up at level 40+ (I was at level 20 thereabouts). I needed two judgement scrolls and emptied my entire inventory of bullets and healing potions before he finally collapsed.

I haven't touched easy mode, so not sure if you can switch difficulty post game.


Unfortunately no, Vanguard and Gunner's Bloom are based upon your magic stats (which is the hardest of the 3 offensive stats to raise, with skill being easiest) Despite them looking all cool, you should probably swap to weapons better suited for your build. (I have the strongest magic-based PC in this forum, and I broke strength and skill's 100 yet still didn't break magic's 100 barrier - at 99 ._. )

Strength for melee/2 handed, and skill for thrusting weapon & pistols. Depending on which set of weapons you prefer, you end up building your PC accordingly.

Also, fire 1 and ice 1 doesn't stack. You can only have 1 elemental essence and have it take effect.

Your PC's raw stats are higher than the rest of us because your weapons are equipped with ATK3, DEF3 etc. red essences. My PC relies mainly on choice of equipment and my dex score only tops out at 60 currently without help from weapons.

Try this for maximum magic:

Cardinal's robe
Seethrough underwear
Short boots
Silk gloves

I'm not mentioning essences since you have the full set and can customise to your heart's content. But I think +30 to all of the above should get you very close to +100 magic. Add a few MAG essences and you should be clear especially since you use the burial blade with its MAG bonus.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Your PC's raw stats are higher than the rest of us because your weapons are equipped with ATK3, DEF3 etc. red essences.

Guilty as charged, I had ATK3, DEF3 (Granite Blade) DEX3 (Automator) and searching for a MAG3 without any luck.

Cardinal's robe
Seethrough underwear
Short boots
Silk gloves

Cardinal's robe has the same base magic as Stray Cat. It doesn't make a difference if I switch. (For reference, Stray Cat gives 20.4 magic at +30, Gothic Brassier gives 21.4 magic at +30. How much does Cardinal give?)
Slitted underwear has the same magic stats as see-through. Hence no difference.
In terms of boots, I am using loafers, which actually gives 2x more magic stats bonus than short boots.

Silk glove on the other hand is worth considering. But glove's +5% double attack is also important. Hard call :/ I guess I should use it to break 100 magic, but otoh, having +5% double attack is like +10 DMG if you have a 200 damage per swipe.

Update:
Ops, I already broke 100 magic on normal. At Level 26, my magic is 115 with Burial and >100 with vanguard.
So much harder to do the same thing on Makai. I am at 91 magic atm with the same gears and better and a bit better upgrades.
...

Yeah, this is basically what veterans of the Maiden Snow Eve does, min/maxxing and discussing playstyles. That and complaining why doesn't the red essence drop what we wanted.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Stray cat +30 on normal only gives 17.8 MAG for me, cardinal's robe +30 gives 22.4. I'm not sure where you got your figures from.

There must be a difference in Makai then, since by default the seethrough should give much more MAG than the slitted underwear according to the wiki.

I concede the point about the loafers, but I'm trying to level a 3rd pair of shoes to +30 and loafers don't come into the equation for me.

 

[Zenislez]

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Ah, I already tested a bit with some of everyone's advice.

I haven't got cardinal robes nor stray cat. Dunno where to look for them.
And accidentally, my Magic stat is quite good.

And for between Vanguard Lance and Gunner's Bloom, I found that Vanguard Lance are better in crowded situation than Gunner's Bloom but Gunner's Bloom is better in 1-on-1 though it burns through ammo like out of style.

As for my equipment....

Vanguard Lance+11 (Paralysis1)
Gunner's Bloom+4 got a new one with red essence with 40%chance to lower target's def
Falcon Stake+6 (Dex2,Blind)
Granite Blade+4 (Earth2,Earth2)
Choker+9
Sailor's Uniform+11 (Vit1,Vit1,Vit1)
Bunny Suits+11 (Mdef2)
Silk Glove+7
Lace-upped-boots+11
Rosary+4

I kind of of wanting to focus more on magic to truly make those guns useful. And some dex for backup weapons. Any advice?

And is it just me, or for some reason Granite Blade is ridiculously useful to crack some mons head?