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I have to agree with XKGF. We did give valid thought out reasons for our arguments. Good suggestions were given on how to avoid this situation If it is the one you want to avoid. Your response seems like we were purposefully trying to anger/troll you when we were not. I do also hope to see this story continue because I did think it was well written and intriguing up to the point you rage quit. I am sorry our arguments for our points made you angry but you must realize we were making those argument so you see where our trains of thought were coming from. if you do continue the story then awesome. :) if not then I guess thats too bad for us and wish you good luck on your next endever.
 

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Re: Left 4 Head

*sigh*

Very ragequit. May end up being even shorter than the one where we actively voted for death, impressively.

For future reference, if you're going to offer an 'other' option, remember that people might want anything. And sod's law dictates that a choice you're entirely unprepared to write is likely to come up nine times out of ten. It also helps if you take the votes as a guideline and go for a situation that best fits the majority, even if it isn't quite one of your options. If you're not prepared for them then explicitly state that you won't accept hybrid votes.
Also also, clarity is key. People like seeing where a result came from. I imagine that it'd help if you get someone else to help test and streamline the system you use for stats/rolls etc before making it public, given that nobody finds it easy to see problems with their own work.

All ^ this ^ came from me reading other CYOAs for a fair time and looking at both what was popular and what I liked to see, I'm no writer and make no pretence of being one ^_^

PS. Yes, I know I'm bumping a dead thread now, but I feel that it's worth it on the offchance you get something from it :p
 

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:( What a so quick end : you could try to do something more usefull and without so much anger.

But, anyway, it's more your choice than mine (or ours) : as i've already wrote, I haven't say that she had to fuck the Zombie and been killed by a guy we didn't know but that she could try something with the "dead zombie" (if I remember well zombies are dead ? They can die twice or more ? So are they cats OO ?).

Your wrath and your hard behaviour is the only prob' guy : you're on a forum, you can wait two minutes before you send every message.

If you want to follow the story, you could erase your last "post" and do something better and nicer, ain't it ;) ? If you don't want to do a such thing, I won't miss ya, guy, and it's really sad ><
 

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I'm wondering why there isn't a game over penalty restart... It would make it harder on Zoey to progress.. Or it could even benefit..

IE: GO Penalty - Zoey feels as if she just wakes up from a bad dream at the last checkpoint (or in this case - start) she remembers old memories coming from her past.. She knows how to shoot an smg (Preference and a bit of skill added in now). But she had blocked out the memories as the vibrations from the SMG made her slowly become aroused as she shot it.. Still it was a dirty pleasure that she dabbled during the few times her daddy took her to the shooting ranges.

Could do a start up from that as well as adding in pointers, even giving hints as to what choices made lead too.
 
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Childish response is childish.
Nah, it is just that you personally were in need to learn that you reap what you sow.

I already said I didn't have a problem with you taking the story where you wanted it to go, my problem was with the way you were going about it (ala. by ignoring the votes that were cast).
It is all there black on white just a few posts back.

I have offered "Other" as a choice. You insisted on pointless dicking with a dead zombie where it was clear that there will be many other opportunities for sex later. As a writer I didn't want to write another sex scene so soon because that kills the game part which should be more important.

I warned you that it is not in her character, and I hope that you will agree that I should know the character better since I was writing it.

It is not easy to write a CYOA, and in order to adapt this particular game universe so that a single character doesn't get overpowered by enemies you have a lot of brainstorming and razor balancing to do. It is a challenge I gave myself and I pursued it in my free time which is not something I have in abundance.

I had a lot of plans for the story development and frankly none of them involved such a banal "sex for the sake of sex' approach.

How do you respond instead by not getting the votes you wanted? You rage/quite the CYOA and kill off the character, for no reason other than to shove our votes back in our faces.
You have absolutely no right to complain because I have warned you what might happen in advance.

If you don't want to continue the story, that's fine, but don't pretend that it's my or anyone else's fault that you're not continuing it.
It is mostly your fault -- you continued bickering and arguing and trying to make me see things your way which is simply impossible given your obvious immaturity level.

I've explained multiple ways that you could have handle the situation better and continued on without any lingering problems (in this post, even), but you chose to simply quit because of a disagreement.
There is nothing you could explain to me, or I would be reading your CYOA, not the other way around. You either never played the game or you are ready to ignore the facts such as that mobs can spawn if you linger in one place for too long or that the specials may get you.

I am sorry our arguments for our points made you angry but you must realize we were making those argument so you see where our trains of thought were coming from.
Your arguments made absolutely no sense but you refuse to see it -- you were all just horny for another sex scene mere seconds after one has been finished. Your "trains of thought" were a fucking train wreck.

And sod's law dictates that a choice you're entirely unprepared to write is likely to come up nine times out of ten.
It is not that I was unprepared for writing another sex scene. Those parts of the story are always dead easy -- any idiot could write them. It is just that I didn't want it. What kind of adventure game this would be if we went from one sex scene into another?

If that is all you want, then please go and watch some pr0n on redtube, I have better things to do with my time than indulging you with one sex scene after another -- it means that you do not respect the other, non-sexual, parts of the game where the majority of writing and thinking skills go.

I imagine that it'd help if you get someone else to help test and streamline the system you use for stats/rolls etc before making it public, given that nobody finds it easy to see problems with their own work.
If you ever played L4D then you probably know that the skill counts but there is still a fair amount of random shit going on -- think of me as of Director AI who is pacing the story and pushing you to continue instead of fucking around in one place.

:( What a so quick end : you could try to do something more usefull and without so much anger.
Usefull like what? I could have made her "try (to eat?) zombie 2", but she wasn't hungry. What was usefull with your idea? I can't think of a single thing.

I'm wondering why there isn't a game over penalty restart... It would make it harder on Zoey to progress.. Or it could even benefit..
I originally intended to have the "restart from chapter beginning" if Zoey dies, but after having to argue so much about something that should have been obvious I have no desire to continue writing at all and you can only blame yourselves for that.
 

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I have to admit, I'm sad to see this having ended so quickly, I always wanted a good zombie cyoa to last, but i know things dont always go as planned, it was fun while it lasted!
 

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I originally intended to have the "restart from chapter beginning" if Zoey dies, but after having to argue so much about something that should have been obvious I have no desire to continue writing at all and you can only blame yourselves for that.
Hmmmm. Ignoring the rant above this since it is not directed at me. (The rant before the quote that I am replying to just to be specific.)

Restart from chapter beginning might be a little overkill.. Especially if Zoey dies right before the chapter ending and having to restart all the way from the beginning would be annoyingly challenging. Since if you do it that way, then you will have to rewrite out encounters with different mobs but nearly same building coverings, and coverage.. That would be somewhat repetitive.

As for me blaming myself for this.. Well I was literally lurking around your story, offering no votes or input.. Well not at least till I found a vote I was interested in voting on. Still, what systems did you have in place for the encounters? Were you using a set of rolls or were you simply going by game choice with some choices being auto losses while other choices are auto wins while yet again, other choices would just prolong and stall out the battle?
 

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I just want to say one thing : there was surely votelock (if people who have been shot [yeah, we've been shot ^^] haven't changed their first impression) (4 - 4). It's sadder now :(

(Fuck all your shit guy)

Is there a modo to close that thread ? I think that we don't need to rip apart the whole section just for a group with fool and angry people :D (Otherwise, we could take real SMG et zombies :rolleyes: ?)
 

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I agree and vote to close thread. I tried to be reasonable, I gave good reasons for my arguments i did not call anybody names or swear. yet I do believe to author needs to do name calling and swearing to get his point across and quite frankly I do not need or want to listen to somebody who is not even trying to be reasonable. as I said before good luck to you in your future works.
 
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Restart from chapter beginning might be a little overkill.
Sorry, but that is how the real Left 4 Dead game works (I can't remember how many times I died in front of safe house door and had to replay from the beginning). That is also why I wanted to avoid it. In the real game, if you stand too long in one place the Director (game AI) spawns a mob, or three specials (boomer, hunter, smoker) to force you to keep moving towards the goal (safe house).

The Tank doesn't spawn this early in the campaign (only in Versus), but I did it to get the point across -- Zoey CAN die if she wastes time and does stupid things.

Instead of tank I could have spawned a mob or specials, but it would take more turns to write that, and the outcome would be the same.

It is sad that people didn't want to play just a bit more seriously instead of wanting to fuck everything, furniture included.

I agree and vote to close thread. I tried to be reasonable, I gave good reasons for my arguments i did not call anybody names or swear. yet I do believe to author needs to do name calling and swearing to get his point across and quite frankly I do not need or want to listen to somebody who is not even trying to be reasonable. as I said before good luck to you in your future works.


Maybe you tried to be reasonable but you failed, since being reasonable required you to stop thinking with your dick and allow the story to continue -- instead, you only wanted another sex scene.

As far as I am concerned this thread can even be deleted if moderators decide that would be for the best, but I also hope that there is some penalty for backroom moderation on this forum.
 

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Shut your fuckin' mouth guy, please : you're getting boring >_< !

I don't know for every people here but when I read the name, I knew it was a video game but, as I haven't played it, I didn't know the 'rules'.

Now, if you want a fight with some people, trying to make shit just because you're angry or childish, you'll have : everybody can be angry and childish but sometimes, being nice, smiling, trying to explain (rules) or being reasonnable is needed.

The best could be a fuckin' modo close this bloody damn thread : everybody will shut his mouth (including me :D !) and we'll be able to have good CYAO with a writer who will explain the rules without getting an ass.

(I repeat 'cause I'm quite sure that you haven't understood yet : this is gonna be badly ugly, please, everybody, do not answer after this message and, if you know a modo, PM him)
 

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Too bad this is "Game Over", I'd would have loved to participate in this. :(
 

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If there is to be a restart of this CYOA I will keep the thread open, even if another takes up the mantle of author.

The arguments have to stop though, as nothing is getting resolved. If they do continue I will lock the thread.
 

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If there is to be a restart of this CYOA I will keep the thread open, even if another takes up the mantle of author.

The arguments have to stop though, as nothing is getting resolved. If they do continue I will lock the thread.
Wait wait wait... Someone else can take up the CYOAS from the author? Hmmm..

4access69, do I have permission from you to continue your CYOA? ANd may I continue it in the thread you created?
 

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Eh, personally, I think if you want to take over as the author you should just make another thread and let this one die. Name it "Left 4 Head 2.0" or "Left 4 Head: Rebirth" or something else mildly cheesy (or maybe something else not even Left 4 Dead-based) and start fresh.

But, that's me. I'm fine with however you want to go about making another ero zombie CYOA.
 

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Wait wait wait... Someone else can take up the CYOAS from the author? Hmmm..
Yes, with permission from the author as it was originally their work. Though as was pointed out, it could simply be easier to start your own thread.

Use of the same title in this case is fine by me, as there is already a L4D themed porn by the same name, and starting one's own thread will not require permission from the original author.
 
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4access69, do I have permission from you to continue your CYOA? ANd may I continue it in the thread you created?
My original idea was to follow the game story progression as close as possible.

I actually wanted to go through the maps like in the original game, which means finishing first chapter defending on the roof of Mercy hospital with chopper escape.

If you intend to continue in the same manner, then please go ahead.

However, if you do not intend to follow the game story progression, then I believe it would be more appropriate to start another thread with a different title in case someone else wants to try following this path later.
 
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Left 4 Head - Revival

Rebecca

Rebecca was a Cajun -- a strong, busty 180 cm tall green-eyed redhead of a French descent born on a small farm in the heart of Louisiana swamp. Whe she was just a little girl she dreamed about becoming a vet. She knew her way around animals, not to mention that her strong yet elegant build and fearless nature allowed her to subdue even the wild, larger ones. On her 18th birthday, her dad told her that he has decided to send her to LSU. She screamed in joy, packed her bags, and went to study Veterinary Medicine. When the apocalypse started, she was in Fairfield visiting some relatives. After fighting her way out of the house overrun with zombies in the middle of the night she was now wandering through the city from shelter to shelter looking for other survivors, so far with no luck in finding any.

You can only imagine her surprise when she heard a female voice from that gloomy two story house. That voice was strange though, it sounded like moaning and later screams of pleasure. She almost rushed to invesstigate when the earth began shaking violently around her and she decided to stay in hiding for a while.

Rebecca saw a huge Tank running into the house "Oh my God... whoever was there is doomed now..." she thought to herself as the shaking and rumbling suddenly stopped and a loud scream was heard from inside followed with cries for help. Rebecca was a strong girl but even she couldn't listen to the horrible suffering of that poor female which she correctly assumed was now being brutally raped by an enraged Tank. She covered her ears for a moment and she stayed completely silent in her hiding place and after only two or three minutes she saw the Tank emerging from the house covered in fresh blood. She sat there waiting patiently for him to get far away and then she started pondering what to do next.

Rebecca decided to check the house for supplies, after all, maybe that woman had something she could use. She climbed up through the large hole in the ceiling and up the stairs only to step into a pool of blood and semen next to a devastated corpse of what has once been a pretty teenage girl. "Poor, poor girl... it must have been horrible... I wonder what you were doing here..." Rebecca thought to herself as she was looking around for items.

"Hello!!! Anyone around? Anyone? I am over here I am trapped! Let me out of here!"

The voice was coming from a nearby closet and Rebecca rushed to open the door. It was that girl whose corpse she saw just minutes ago! It was confusing...

"Thanks!" the girl said as she emerged out of the closet wearing a tattered set of clothes and wielding a single pistol.

"You are welcome" said Rebecca "I am Rebecca, and you?"

"My name is Zoey" girl replied "Nice to meet you Rebecca!".

"Um... pardon my curiosity but what just happened here?" asked Rebecca.

"Well, I went down the stairs and was attacked by 3 zombies. I managed to kill one of them, but the other two got me and raped me for two hours straight." said Zoey.

"Wait... what? Raped? Poor girl!" said Rebecca "that must've hurt!".

"Yes... I was a total virgin..." Zoey said blushing and twisting her hands nervously.

"Really?" said Rebecca, who lost her virginity when she was 12 with her older cousin and was no stranger to all kinds of sex.

"Umm... yeah..." Zoey continued, not leaving out juicy details "One of them forced his cock in my mouth and after he came he just collapsed and died."

"Interesting... I didn't know that was their weak spot... please continue." mumbled Rebecca.

"The other one licked me to orgasm and then while I was disoriented he forced himself inside me" continued Zoey "but after initial pain I started enjoying myself and had another orgasm so strong that I passed out for a few minutes."

"Ooohh... you must be a squirting type." Rebecca smiled.

"Y... yes... h... how did you know?" Zoey blushed again "Anyway, when I woke up, I was bent over and tied to a chair... zombie didn't cum and he wanted more... he took my ass next... that hurt a LOT, but I eventually came again and he pulled out and started unloading himself all over my face and chest..."

"Woow..." said Rebecca getting a bit horny just by listening to Zoey's story.

"As he started to spray I... I opened my mouth and stuck my tongue under his cock hungrily swallowing his cum... it was sooo tasty..." said Zoey.

"As he collapsed and died, I was left alone, longing for more cock... and since there was a third zombie that I have shot and he had an erection..."

"W... wait, wait, wait.. y... you were so horny that you f... fucked a corpse???" stuttered Rebecca in total disbelief.

Zoey put her head down in shame "Yes..." she said quietly "I... I jouldn't help myself... I tried to fight that irrational desire, but it was as if some mindless creature was controlling my body..."

"Then what happened?" asked Rebecca.

"I don't know..." said Zoey "last thing I remember was my orgasm, and then suddenly horrible pain and darkness... and then I was stuck in that closet over there. I thought I was dead for sure, this must be some kind of game or something..."

"You were raped by a Tank, here is your corpse in case you want to refresh your memory but I wouldn't advise looking at it for too long." said Rebecca.

"I think I am going to skip that" said Zoey, picking up her medkit, SMG, and grabbing a bottle of pills from a night table in a nearby bedroom.

Rebecca continued "I saw quite a few Tanks so far, but this one looked different."

"What do you mean different?" asked Zoey.

"Well he was a lot bigger and had a really huge cock -- like an elephant" said Rebecca, "The other Tank cocks I saw so far were size of a cock which is considerably more... ahem... manageable."

"Wha... what do you mean by manageable?" asked Zoey nervously even though in the depth of her unconscious mind already knew the answer.

Rebecca shifted her weight, and stretched her hourglass shaped and well toned body like a big wild cat, her big breasts almost ripping through the tight sleeveless shirt she was wearing. "Lets just say that I have managed to tame a few of those myself, ok?"

"Woow!" gasped Zoey "That is amazing!" imagining how that might have looked which caused her to feel that familiar warm tingling and wetness in her panties, but she really didn't want to nose around for details too much given that their friendship was still fresh and fragile "So.. uh... could we... I mean..."

"Travel together?" asked Rebecca "Sure! I was looking for some company, glad that I found you. Just don't start teasing Tanks again with that sweet plump ass of yours" she giggled.

Zoey blushed again, and in an attempt to change the subject gave the pills she found to Rebecca "Here, take this".

"Thanks!" said Rebecca enjoying the sight of a young teen blushing from her compliment and secretly eyeing out those pink puffy nipples that were occasionally poking through the holes in Zoey's badly torn t-shirt.
"Wow this little cutie here has really delicious boobs." she thought to herself "I hope she won't mind me fondling them once we get to a safe house, I am so eager to taste her juices after hearing her story".

Instead of showing the affection immediately, Rebecca decided to proceed cautiously so as not to scare that sweet looking young girl away. "Lets get out of here" she said "there is a safe house in the nearby subway, we could both use some rest."

Two girls went down the stairs together, jumped down the hole and now they were out of the house in a dark back alley with paths heading left where another door could be seen, and forward, further into the alley where another path to the left was visible which was leading to the street.

A) Go left (towards the door)
B) Go forward (towards the street)
C) Go back

Additionally:

Reload SMG (Y/N)?
Turn on the flashlights (Y/N)?

Zoey:
Health:
- 50HP
- Fine
Clothes:
- Tattered jacket, t-shirt, pants, belt, shoes
Weapon Inventory:
PRI = SMG (2/480)
SEC = Pistol (15/∞)
Item Inventory:
- Medkit (restores health to 80%)
Other:
- Gun mounted flashlight (OFF)

Rebecca:
Health:
- 100HP
- Fine
Clothes:
- sleeveless shirt, hot pants, belt, shoes
Weapon Inventory:
PRI = Pump Shotgun (8/128)
SEC = Machete
Item Inventory:
- Pills
- Pipe Bomb
Other:
- Gun mounted flashlight (OFF)
 

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What the fuckin' damn bloody fuck ? I thought that we were a big lot of childish and naughty asses ? Such a shame and a pain, isn't it ?

Just one thing : ain't she dead ? No, a second too : now, who is the main character ? (If we need to choose between the main and the other, we have to know who's the main ^^) And a third : do you swear that you won't try again to fuck us all ? (Actually, I just want a "yes" or a "no" : i won't believe any promise:D !)

Anyway :
A) Y N
 
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This is an interesting development. More I shall not say.

B, Y, Y
 
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