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Here's the pitch i submitted to offbeatr, I plan on making a good demo for it when I have some spare time after freeko's game, I have more ideas than this would indicate but i really didn't want to spoil anything the player should have to find for themselves.
Debt Slave - a choose your own adventure



The project is to produce an erotic stat raising/money making hentai game.

The main character is given a limited number of days to pay off a huge debt or be auctioned off as a sex slave. As her part time job has pitiful payment with no hope of raising the money in time, her options are gambling and prostitution, and her options for money making grow with her stats and events the player may find.

The game features multiple endings depending on the player, many ways to get a bad end before her time is up, and a few different good endings depending on player choices and their stats, and they can get their hands dirty too if they so please.
There will also be a new game+ with extra endings not possible in the main play through.

The world she lives in is not kind and people can become objects easily, sometimes literally.



Gameplay - Each day the player can choose where they go,
at first you can choose between:
going to work (small payout, chance to raise charm and courage)
going gambling (risky option, but some casino games are skill based, drinking raises courage and can lead to events)
going shopping (the shopping district contains areas for relaxation and a bookshop for picking up new skills)

but as the player discovers events and raises their stats new options become available.


Like most choose your own adventures the players decisions on how to raise their character affect the plot greatly, flags need to be raised for certain events to play out and certain stats need to be raised to pass them properly.

Erotic scenes - various things can happen to the player,
for example; if you win too much money at the casino in a day, they could be accused of cheating, and dragged into the back room to be strip-searched by the enforcers before being released with half her winnings (the threshold amount is a lot though).
If they drink too much of the free alcohol at the casino, she might pick up a stranger and fuck his brains out.
and she might start prostituting herself for money if she has enough courage and an event to put the idea in her head.

Bad endings - the character could have any ill fate befall her in such a corrupt place.
If she pisses off the local prostitutes, they could come for her in her sleep and make an example of her,
She could end up in jail at the mercy of the dirty cops,
She could even be made into a public cum-dump.



This is the first project I have thought of that fulfilled the three requirements I decided upon before I would consider crowdfunding:

1. The concept has to be good enough to crowdfund, and be a greater game as a result.
2. I have to be capable of making it. (this is where my hentai deck-building game fell flat because I couldn't program the AI)
3. There has to be an actual need of external funding.


rewards -
$5 or more - my thanks for helping me make this game a reality.
$15 or more - earn a spot in the credits. and a copy of the game on release.
$20 or more - be revered by NPCs as one of the original founders of the corrupt city/casino.
$40 or more - early access to the beta version of the game and a full copy on release.
$300 or more - your character as an NPC slave or slaver in the game. (20 people maximum)
$500 or more - your character in the game as an NPC with their own quest line. (3 people maximum)


The rewards were just made up on the spot, i might lower the price of the bigger ones but maybe not.

i also havent decided what the target should be
 
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Re: my debt slave pitch got accepted to off beatr

So i don't think courage should be a thing. I generally don't like it when a game locks content like this and the character is basically at rock bottom where she needs to do anything to survive. She's going to suck up that gut and do what she needs to.
 
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So i don't think courage should be a thing. I generally don't like it when a game locks content like this and the character is basically at rock bottom where she needs to do anything to survive. She's going to suck up that gut and do what she needs to.
but even if you're at your worse it takes courage to choose to do something degrading, it takes courage to fire a gun for example... anyone can bluff with an unloaded gun, but it takes courage (at least the first time) to kill someone by choice.

stat raising and accquiring skills is an important part of the design of the game.
if she doesn't learn how to escape ropes, then prostituting herself to some clients in the city she's in is way riskier *though that could just mean not getting paid*.
 

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Re: my debt slave pitch got accepted to off beatr

but even if you're at your worse it takes courage to choose to do something degrading, it takes courage to fire a gun for example... anyone can bluff with an unloaded gun, but it takes courage (at least the first time) to kill someone by choice.

stat raising and accquiring skills is an important part of the design of the game.
if she doesn't learn how to escape ropes, then prostituting herself to some clients in the city she's in is way riskier *though that could just mean not getting paid*.
I think the argument here is that a protagonist should be courageous by default.
 
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I think the argument here is that a protagonist should be courageous by default.
it just goes against the game i had in mind, and one of the events is getting drunk from too much liquid courage
 

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i remember from when we did research on kickstarter rewards that some of the most profitable rewards where at 10, 25, 50, 100. Fifty being the most profitable and 5-8 rewards stopping choice paralysis.

Targets, dont be greedy or stingy. People might not trust a man who says he can make a game for 50 bucks, but you might get it done for 20k or so.

Next step, although it may be too late. make sure you've got a lot of art done first. people wont pay for what they cant see. you could also stretch to make a demo, like when fleshcraft came out.

This is all the advice sage nunu can offer at this moment.
 
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i remember from when we did research on kickstarter rewards that some of the most profitable rewards where at 10, 25, 50, 100. Fifty being the most profitable and 5-8 rewards stopping choice paralysis.

Targets, dont be greedy or stingy. People might not trust a man who says he can make a game for 50 bucks, but you might get it done for 20k or so.

Next step, although it may be too late. make sure you've got a lot of art done first. people wont pay for what they cant see. you could also stretch to make a demo, like when fleshcraft came out.

This is all the advice sage nunu can offer at this moment.
that is a very nice piece of advice nunu, all i've shared is the pitch that got accepted and i wont be doing any crowdfunding until i have a lot of the art done and enough of a demo to perk interest.

Same goes for the non h concept i have, i don't have enough of a gameplay demo to make a trailer for it yet cause i have current obligations.

the rewards i included were just to get the pitch accepted and by no means are final, though i do like the idea of having people's characters as slaves you can look at to see what could happen to you if you don't pay up
 

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but even if you're at your worse it takes courage to choose to do something degrading, it takes courage to fire a gun for example... anyone can bluff with an unloaded gun, but it takes courage (at least the first time) to kill someone by choice.
You need a better example than that gun one. I'm fairly sure you're relying of Hollywood tropes. Sorry for going off topic real quick. So the instant you pick up an loaded or unloaded gun and aim it at someone, you intend to kill them if need be. You don't pick up a gun to threaten people! You can give them a chance to surrender but to be frank, you picked that gun up to kill someone if needed. I'm fairly sure the law is designed around that thought process. Okay done with the "Shoot the bastard" talk!

stat raising and accquiring skills is an important part of the design of the game.
if she doesn't learn how to escape ropes, then prostituting herself to some clients in the city she's in is way riskier *though that could just mean not getting paid*.
So the problem isn't raising stats but limiting content completely. It's like in a elder scrolls game not being allowed to have bandits attack you until you got to some level in the mages or fighters guild. Now that's not completely fair since this is immersion breaking where you game is trying to keep you immersed. The point is that elders scrolls i don't need to prove to everyone that i can fight before i'm allowed to. Why do i need to prove i've degraded my character enough before i can do something to save her from slavery where known number of degrading things likely await her? Let me put it to you this way, if i had cancer and the only cure was taking a penis up the ass why wouldn't i even if anal is a fetish i dislike?
 
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So the problem isn't raising stats but limiting content completely. It's like in a elder scrolls game not being allowed to have bandits attack you until you got to some level in the mages or fighters guild. Now that's not completely fair since this is immersion breaking where you game is trying to keep you immersed. The point is that elders scrolls i don't need to prove to everyone that i can fight before i'm allowed to. Why do i need to prove i've degraded my character enough before i can do something to save her from slavery where known number of degrading things likely await her? Let me put it to you this way, if i had cancer and the only cure was taking a penis up the ass why wouldn't i even if anal is a fetish i dislike?

You have a fair point, but i think "but at what cost" would come into it, a virgin run is possible, but that would involve a lot of luck or skill with the casino, and you wouldn't be able to make too much in a day or risk being fucked in the back room...
then again, everyone has their price is another way to see it...

I would think the character would want to keep her sense of morality intact, if only until she sees the potential profit involved, i mean it's one thing to accept payment for sex but its another thing entirely to be confident enough to flaunt yourself in public to get more customers.
 
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Define public.
 
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Define public.
I mean knowing what the prostitutes wear to signal their occupation and wearing it with a smile :D

flashing your knickers in exhibitionistic pleasure would be nice too
 

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Re: my debt slave pitch got accepted to off beatr

Here's a main character concept I worked on for a few days.

Outlines will be much thinner and refined in official work. The hard shade, on the other hand, is a tentative decision. Full-blown CG is not really much work after hard shading, but it can be considered a different style. Let me know if you guys have a preference between hard-color CG and full CG.



Azure, I think you better set a short-term plan for me quickly~.
 
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id rather hard shading because it makes making different expresssion variants simpler to produce :)
 

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Another concept. Your Debt Boss, who's the 2nd major character.

 
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