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Hi there, I am here to anounce my new game called Khendovir's Chronicles Rinet's Quest.



Resuming the story:
Zack and Diana, two siblings, must pass the test to become Rinet's(Some sort of a magic warrior monk) and go on a journey to fight demons and monsters.

I really hope I can count on your support and if you want to give me some money, please pledge! : P
Even so, the game will be "free", the first version is online in the patreon page and I will monthly upgrade it, so if you really can't/won't help, you can still play.

Title:


Screenshot from walking around:
 

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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

Hello, that got me curious:
- How long the final game is projected to be?
- How many story characters?
- What are the fetishes explored here?
 

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So, I played some of this and it seems like you were inspired by Attack on Titan (similar outfits, military academy setting and the threat of frost giants or frost trolls..don't remember).
That in itself isn't too bad, although I'd prefer it if you didn't think of random names to call all kinds of things..it feels a bit like chuunibyou.
The writing itself is good, I can tell that you're a native speaker. From the two MCs, I get the feeling of childhoof friends (without the stereotypical love interest) rather than brother and sister, but that may just be a cultural thing.
REALLY don't know if I would keep the animations in - especially if you could just draw one or two good picture of the acts.
As of now, the animations are horrible - and reflect quite badly onto the game (which is done remarkably well otherwise - both sprites and character portraits).
Not sure if the stress of portraying in sprite which weapons and armor are carried is really worth it - I don't quite see how its benefit outweighs the workload necessary.

Found a game breaking bug:
If you find the drawings in the master's bed, but don't talk to Malev afterwards and continue on with the library fight, any later attempt to talk to Malev , you will be stuck in the cutscene without any chance of recovery.

Overall, has potential.
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

Hello, that got me curious:
- How long the final game is projected to be?
- How many story characters?
- What are the fetishes explored here?
I believe the game (If everything goes well) will take an year and a half at least.
If you meant "party members", I believe it will be about... 15 maybe.
I say it will not be really good on fetiches, aside from standard sex, blowjob and a little anal...
No mind break, No slave making(I don't know if there will be another king or if they will be abused, we shall see) No guro...
If someone can link me some tags site I can establish it better.

vrtrtr

Well, AoT didn't inspire in the least and I am not a native : P ( I am from Brazil, actually)
I believe I can get better on the animations (and perhaps horrible is a strong word) but if I get backing and people don't think then necessary, I can drop them and focus on CGs only perhaps.
(ALso, if people don't think the animations are important I really want to know because it takes me time to make them.)

PS: I think the webm format fuck's the videos... Or perhaps I do... I don't know. : P
Thanks for the "Bug cathing", will be fixed in the next release.

Aise from that, thank you for the feedback!
 

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Just a heads-up: I'm neither here to beat you down nor to mollycoddle you.
When I call something horrible, it's a relative term: the rest of your graphic work is good - but the sex scenes leave much to be desired.
 

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If you can stick to animations i mean honestly CG only games are pretty lazy of developers..if you want CGs only etc then just go to some picture sites? If you continue working on your animation skills you can end up with a nice following to your games :)
 

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Is there any examples of the H art you could share? From the pictures you have shared there it doesn't seem quite my-style I'm afraid. But of course that's a personal preference, to each their own.
 

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Thanks for your answers!
15 characters seem a bit much, or maybe you'll develop (story wise) only the main cast?

I say it will not be really good on fetiches, aside from standard sex, blowjob and a little anal...
No mind break, No slave making(I don't know if there will be another king or if they will be abused, we shall see) No guro...
If someone can link me some tags site I can establish it better.
There are many fetishes, my friend, and not all of them are as dark as guro ^^
I'm a fan of chirarism for example... :p
Go in the english dlsite (develop "genre") if you want to see a lot of tags:
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

I believe the game (If everything goes well) will take an year and a half at least.
If you meant "party members", I believe it will be about... 15 maybe.
I say it will not be really good on fetiches, aside from standard sex, blowjob and a little anal...
No mind break, No slave making(I don't know if there will be another king or if they will be abused, we shall see) No guro...
If someone can link me some tags site I can establish it better.

vrtrtr

Well, AoT didn't inspire in the least and I am not a native : P ( I am from Brazil, actually)
I believe I can get better on the animations (and perhaps horrible is a strong word) but if I get backing and people don't think then necessary, I can drop them and focus on CGs only perhaps.
(ALso, if people don't think the animations are important I really want to know because it takes me time to make them.)

PS: I think the webm format fuck's the videos... Or perhaps I do... I don't know. : P
Thanks for the "Bug cathing", will be fixed in the next release.

Aise from that, thank you for the feedback!


Dude you really need to hire some native English speaker.
Your English is not on a level where you could do this by yourself and create a high quality product. You claim the Sex in this H game will be story driven which means that if can't spell "Bug CATCHING" and write the word access with 1 c, chances are this game will be ruined since nothing annoys people more than the feeling that a 10 year old wrote some erotic literature.
Not only does this pontentially ruin the game it will also make your Patreon look stupid.

Adressing your Patreon... this is your welcome message to all visitors:

"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
When I was in high school I had the RPGMAKER2k but I never actually “concluded” any game that I tried to develop. Years passed and I concluded my university (Game designer) and It tried to do some games with friends but... None actually succeeded. That's when I discovered the huge community of HRPG and some great games, and since I always liked pornography and games, I thought “why not?” Well, it doesn't sound very trustworthy I guess... I made a lot of games in university, but I never actually "gained" money doing it. But I wanted to tell you all, I am 100% sure that I can create a very nice game (check the video and stuff) and I would like to ask the cooperation of everybody who has an interest. Thank you!
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

This translates to me:
Hi I used RPGMAKER2K by chance but never bothered to finish anything and just played around with it.
I finished university and messed around with some friends but none of the projects succeeded. (I take it you talk about money here)
That's when I discovered many successful Patreons who create HRPG's (Well look at some Projects who get more than 3k dollars per month and some giants like Akabur who are quite rich now)
YOU EVEN ADMIT THAT YOU SOUND LIKE A MONEY GRUBBING OPPORTUNIST. (which you probably are)

Even here on ULMF you begin your post by writing:
"I really hope I can count on your support and if you want to give me some money, please pledge! : P
Even so, the game will be "free", the first version is online in the patreon page and I will monthly upgrade it, so if you really can't/won't help, you can still play."

I really appreciate the fact that you are willing to release everything for free. That dispells some of the doubts I KNOW people have.
But still "give me some money"
It's not you that people want to fund it's your game.
You need some kind of production goal / plan and explain HOW their money can help fun the game! "give me money plz" is not an argument and not a good way to raise funds to create a game.



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YOU are new to this genre and the first step is to play&play&play&play and see what people like and where you talents could be used to create an interesting game.


It will also broaden your mind because if you state things like:

"I say it will not be really good on fetiches, aside from standard sex, blowjob and a little anal...
"

it makes your game not only look retarded but also extremely boring.
I personally feel like you have no imagination and no touch for erotic writing in general.

Many games only feature vanilla sex scenes.... The writing and the art is what makes many of those games still great and loved by even hardcore HRPG fans.



I also played your game and have to say that it's really really boring.
The combat and the art are not really bad but they are the most generic things I have ever seen.

Your art is not bad! But even through the filter on your Patreon video i noticed that it's not on a professional level and won't attract many people.

So why exactly would people want to play your game?

PRO (playing)
- ??? Maybe the story Idea about the warrior Monks of the Order of Rinehart. That's a overused but still good idea with a lot of pontential.
- It's free
PRO (supporting you on Patreon)
- NO REASON aside from some overpriced totally unrealistic rewards which aren't even good. I personally wouldn't even pay 10 bucks for your 200USD tier.

CONS (playing)
- generic amateurish art
- generic combat & story
- generic Hscenes
- bad writing
- bad English (not that mine is better in any form but I am not creating games)
- nothing to make your game stand out from the masses
- nothing remotely fascinating or special about it.

CONS (supporting you on Patreon)
- you never finished anything
- you have nothing you previously created to show >>> NO TRUST IN YOU
- you are new to this genre and have no or limited experience/knowledge about it because:
- you are obviously in for the money as you yourself nearly admitted.
- your English and writing on Patreon makes it seem like an Idea you thought of last night while drinking
- unprofessional on all levels



This is in no way a post to bash you but to open your eyes.
My advice:
- Look for a partner who wants to start creating games too and ask him to take on the WHOLE WRITING and your Patreon account.
THIS IS ESSENTIAL.
Of course you can still determine the story and the contents... I'm only talking about the writing.
- Improve your art and make it stand out more. It has no special flair/trait and seems okay but generic....
- Change your Story or improve it. You need something which is not present in 99% of RPG games..... Especially if your art, writing and gameplay is subpar the story is the one thing which can still turn it into a great game. On the other hand if it's generic shit it will make the whole thing even worse.
- Think of something to boost the gameplay and combat. For example: make some special combat menu for Order of Rinehart which requires the player to think outside the box. Or anything else .... IT'S BORING like that. REALLY boring.
- Offer some realistic Patreon rewards (Monthly skype sessions to talk about the game or whatever) Maybe release the upcoming versions of the game a few days before you release it for free? (that would also work as beta testing which is a +)
- Try to look more trustworthy & professional and change your Patreon messages.


Anyway it's only the start! I think you can create a good game if you don't give up and improve some of the points i mentioned.... Anyway welcome and good luck. Keep us updated.






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Downvoting me with insults is not helpful to Stalker! If you think my advice is trash give him some better advice and disprove my arguments.
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

As much as i think the previous comment is interesting and shouldn't be ignored, i just tried the game and i find it very interesting.

Well, i just wandered around, didn't try any fights and didn't see any H scene yet.

I really liked it from the intro with the map and the music is nice as well, i like your art style.

Really looks like a regular but original RPG, but from your own words, the H content doesn't sound really appealing.
If you want to attract players, you should think about teaming with an artist, maybe or to play different games to get some ideas (sangeki of gear is really good, alya story's prologue from yummy tiger as well, most of the 3DCG new english games H scenes are very good as well )

You should definitely add some soft h content like peeing / groping scenes like all the best H games do.

I'll give a more detailed feedback after i test combat and h scenes.

Very promising so far.

GAME BREAKING BUG
in the basement, with the guy searching for his pipe, after we find it, it's possible to block him and to freeze the game.
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

Manamana
I will post they later, thanks for the site!

Mrgrgr!
Thank you for the feedback.

Combustion Man
You should definetly add some soft h content like peeing / groping scenes like all the best H games do.
I will! This is just the intro. Thanks for playing!
 

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I'm agreeing with Mrgrgr on a lot of the points he/she made, only thing I'd really argue with is that generic can work. You just can't have everything generic. Between the story, the art, the game-play, and the scenes, you can have three be generic, but the fourth needs to stand out as exceptionally good, or there just isn't any reason to bother with the game.

English wise, My advice is either get some help with the English, or write it in your native language, because it sounds like you're in this for the money, and very few people are going to pay for writing that sounds off.

Edit: Also, don't try to please everyone when it comes to scenes. Everyone likes something different, and if you try to accodate everyone, you're going to either get bogged down, or have minimal content of every kink (and many people have no desire to see certain kinks. e.g. I personally avoid games with scat because I find it disgusting)

2nd Edit: Perhaps my initial comments were a it harsh about your English, it's more of missing a lot of little things that the little things that really hurt.
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

I'm agreeing with Mrgrgr on a lot of the points he/she made, only thing I'd really argue with is that generic can work. You just can't have everything generic. Between the story, the art, the game-play, and the scenes, you can have three be generic, but the fourth needs to stand out as exceptionally good, or there just isn't any reason to bother with the game.
Yeah I couldn't agree with it more!
If you have a game which is overall generic you need at least 1 extremely innovative or extremely fun thing in your game that pulls people in.
Generic = Neither good nor bad. But if everything is just meh there is no reason to actually play this.

The problem starts if you actually have a few negatives in there like extremely bad English writing and nothing to balance it out.
 
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Okay, I am sorry if I sounded unprofessional and "only in for the money". That is not the reality of it, at all. I really love games and the ones I made that I didn't finish were made a long time ago, and obviosly I did they for hobby, gaining nothing, so It really didn't matter for me if I ended they or not.
I am really having problemns on money, but I will not disclose them here.

If you guys are criticising my english because of the way I speak on the forum... Well I think you should play the game. I take a lot more care when I am writing the dialogues than I do when writing on this forum.
If you played and you think I suck and will suck more, well sorry to hear. I will try my best to get better.

I believe you are wrong on the "generic" terme. The characters were designed with a different art style than most of the "manga-like" artwork (I don't dislike, but I wanted to make something different). The battlers, which are usually created dynamically in the "generator" of the RPG maker, all made by me too.
The items, all showing on equipment. The battle mechanics, all different from other side view RPG maker games.
I also animated the sex scenes too, another thing which is not on most games.

So if you want to classify it like "another generic game" because it is a magic medieval sex RPG game... Well, there is nothing I can do about it. But I will keep working on it to get better.

Anyway, I thank you for the feedback and I will probably do some of the things cited here. (like remaking the patreon page)
 

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Wow, another BR, how nice.

It's nice to see Brazilian game maker taking interest in this genre as I guess there is no such thing as "enough porn".

"The guy is in it for the money" yeah, we all got to eat, I suppose.

Anyway. I've played the game and maybe because i have the same native language as him I could "see" where he was coming from and where he was going with this as those sentences work very well in PT-BR, so i didn't feel this "OMG my eyes are bleeding!".

As for the generic argument... well I remember a game where the mechanic was: press A, B or C to dodge incoming enemies and get to the end of the level, rince and repeat, and we all loved that game! I did! and now here we are on ULMF, I'm not saying we should give the Stalker a pass, but we should wait and see.

Hell, I'm paying to see.

He is taking our feedback to heart it seems, if anyone here remember ToonPimp, we know that we can have some pretty toxic Game Developers, we all know how much a independent game dev can learn and improve during development and I'm sure he will.

If not then the nature of open market will take it's course.

In short... there is one more people making porn games, and that's always a good thing in my books.

Welcome to our little forum, surprise us, prove us wrong and all that.
 

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Well, i went through the demo, there is room for improvement but i really like it.

Positive :
+ original art
+ interesting quests
+ interesting side quests
+ different characters with their own agenda
+ i also like the setup around h-scenes

Neutral :
- Battle system, maybe it's getting better with more skills after a couple of level up and with more party members, at the beginning, there is no tactical option at all
- H-scenes are ok but the drawings are not as good as the regular ones

Good work
 
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Hi guys, In some days I will be releasing the version 0.02.0 and I wanted to ask you all to answer a survey for me.
There are some bugs and gameplay issues... That I wished to resolve.

Here it is:


I am also putting a SS here for everybody to remember the gameplay.
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Hello guys, thanks for answering the survey (I will post about it later today).
The new version of the game is finally done, I will post the link here.

Thank you for the support.

 

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So if you want to classify it like "another generic game" because it is a magic medieval sex RPG game... Well, there is nothing I can do about it. But I will keep working on it to get better.
I won't discuss other's people opinion, as i can't stand the most popular things (almost anything related to tv and most popular bands and blockbusters ), i'll just say i'm a RPG fan, my favorites are Fallout 1& 2, Arcanum, Planescape Torment, the divinity serie.

To my opinion, that game is a very good RPG, one of the best out there, i wish you started to make it 2 years ago so i could play the complete game right now.

Well, it's not the best H game yet, but it's version 0.04 with more content already than most 0.4 versions of other games (except for H content but there is 2 animated scenes already )

Those who like The Last Sovereign should definitely play this, in terms of storyline, i believe this is quite similar (good and complicated storilines ).

The battle system was greatly improved with the skills addition, i just wish we'll have a choice of optional characters with unique abilities (i forgot to mention my first RPG references were Shining Force, Phantasy star and Suikoden )

Well, i really enjoyed playing your game, it's far better than the average RPG "non H game", quests are interesting and varied.

Keep up the good work and thanks :)
 
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Re: Rinet's Quest (take a look!) [eng]

Hey Combustion Man, sorry I didn't say anything about your other post, I didn't want to spoil the battle system and... I kinda forgot : P

About the HCGs... I will give up on the animations, the render does not get any better than that and it takes SO MUCH time... And the CGs artwork was better anyway, so I will remake the two sex scenes.

The story will take some time to unfold yet, since I am removing the "Visual equipment" (too buggy) and using the next update to enhance animations and game aspects in general...

Anyway, thank's for the support man, it means a lot.
 
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