Re: [Nutaku] Shooting Girl
@Angelic Berserker I got the idea that you don't like it but don't push your values of what you like onto someone else.
you are right, I apologize. This happens to just be one of my many personality faults not that that's an excuse for my behavior I had no right to express my opinions like that and for that I am truly sorry
and with that said,
are you fucking kidding me? This game u click start u walk away you come back and you win.
fuck values
Try that on mission 3-3, you'll lose every time. Attempt it at lvl 15, you'll still lose. Mission 3 is mostly what peps talk about on discord. Its difficult
Mission 3-3 isn't hard at all,
3-3 is just this games first "stat check" stage. you and the peeps in that discord
MOST LIKELY just
never played any RPG game in your lives and that's perfectly ok
we all start somewhere.
Basic RPG 101
RPG LAW states,
"If your shit is leveled your shit will one shot shit" In other words,
unless mission 3-3 is like near the end game,
the units in mission 3-3 = shit.
Shit dies in one hit.
Leveled Shit kills shit in one hit. I'ts a simple basic RPG concept.
Depending on what RPG it is and how long it is because
shit varies, if your only 3 weeks in (3 days in if your a pro)(3 months in if its an mmo),
ALL your characters and everything you have is
fucking worthless and useless
Being stuck on stage 3-3 means absolutely nothing except that
you didn't do enough grinding.
The only stage or boss in any RPG game, this game included, that is relevant at all in any way, is the very very LAST STAGE/BOSS, that's the only way to test your full potential in said rpg unless that rpg has extra content added to it after you beat it.
I highly doubt that that is the case with Shooting Girl.
If you cannot progress past a stage or boss in an RPG
you need to go back to previous stages or bosses and kill them 200-40000 times over b4 trying that stage or boss you cannot get past again.
/Basic RPG 101
Your set up, formation, strategy and placement are all essential for this game. That's why I was able to beat the pre-set lvl 40 characters with my lvl 10s. The preset set up is just awful.
Do not be fooled,
formation means absolutely nothing in this game (
see RPG LAW posted above)
and the stat bonuses and shit are irreverent. The reason why your level 10 units killed the level 40 preset units, is because
the level 40 preset units were scaled just enough to be beat by the level 10 units.
You should not be taking credit for the victory because
you didn't do shit except click start, get up, go into the kitchen, eat a whole water melon, come back and sit down.
Your units played the game,
not you.
Each formation has a stat bonus/decrease and who you decide to place on there can change everything. Some people go full defense, others go eva, etc.
#1,(See RPG LAW posted above) RPG LAW also somewhat kinda makes point #2 a bit redundant but I think point #2 is very important for people to read anyway.
#2,
based on my experience through out my life with playing countless carbon copies of shooting girl on various other websites such as Newgrounds, ArmorGames, and XgenStudios (just to name a few),
the best strategy in a game like this one is to
put all your eggs into the same basket(s).
What I mean by that is,
you either dump everything you got into 1 unit and use 5 level 1 meat shields while your main unit just solos the whole fucking game (
which you only do if your looking for a challenge if there is any).
Or you pick 1 type of class and every unit you use has to be that same fucking class for example, instead of 1 sniper 1 smg 1 w/e the fuck,
just use 6 snipers.
If all your eggs are in 1 basket(s), all of your chickens will be the same.
You want your shit to
move at the same pace, you want your shit to
attack at the same pace, you want shit to
flow at the same fucking pace with a game like this.
This shit even applies to real life in the armed forces,
in a fucking platoon of marines every marine looks the same and has the same gear and equipment and weapons, and
its for a fucking reason.
If you just got
random ass mother fuckers being random there just gonna randomly fuck off in random ass directions all trying to do random ass shit that probably doesn't even work well with each other fluidly and everyone just fucking dies.
I can easily see that happening in this game based on two reasons. Reason one, the
RTS elements that should be in this game are missing. Reason two, based on the few game play videos Ive seen even tho I never seen anyone lose because this game is just that retardedly easy,
each type of unit behaves differently.
Some units
noticeably put in a fuck ton more work than other units.
The
AVR or w/e the fuck it is that moves behind rocks and shit for no fucking reason not only wastes time but becomes
a giant liafuckingbility that under normal circumstances (
because this is a retardedly easy game),
would get the whole squad killed because shes not shooting cover fire down range to watch her comrades backs. so
all her comrades get picked off one by one because one of the guns chose to walk behind a rock for no reason,
then the dumb ass who walked behind the rock gets captured and probably turned into another Theon Greyjoy.
If you ran 6 AVRs tho,
then all of them maybe would go hide behind rocks and all do the same thing fluidly together like a solid fucking unit.
The ARs and SMGs most of the time
seem to march forward and attack the enemy.
once again if you only have like 1 or 2 ARs and SMGs,
those one or two are gonna march forward like charging chuck and die because where the fuck are the other 4 units, and what the fuck were they doing that was more important than the lives of their two comrades? Two of their comrades needed them but
those 4 units weren't there for them so they died.
From reading this thread, this game has a healing class or I guess special units that come with a bonus heal skill,
those units may or may not be needed, and
that all depends on how hard the very very last stage and boss is.
If you need Heal carry this early in the game your in for a very frustrating experience, and
that's ok because RPG LAW states that eventually you shit on everything anyway.
From reading this thread and from just good incite on how these type of games work mathematically and mechanically.
I can be completely wrong but,
Id say the sniper if not them maybe the AR, one of those two classes is the most broken one in this game.
So
IN THEORY BECAUSE THERE'S CURRENTLY ONLY 2 HEALING UNITS, the
most possible optimal way to play this game in my opinion is with 6 units of the most broken class (sniper) and all 6 come with whatever the healing bonus shit is.
so everyone is healing everyone and everyone is sniping everything from the across the map.
Sounds pretty optimal to me but we don't have 6 unique healing snipers or any class. I don't have a crystal ball, but
no one can say for sure that more units with the healing bonus wont be added into the game.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if the healing units
were actually fucking garbage because
each unit behaves differently and I don't know how a healing unit behaves.
When does a healing unit heal another unit?
Do they
only heal units that took damage?
If so, then
would a healing unit stop attacking and walk half way across the map to
heal a friendly unit that only lost 1% of their hp?
Do they
randomly heal random friendly units randomly regardless of how much damage they took?
Would healing units
just do nothing but constantly heal each other if both are simultaneously taking damage?
All of this shit has to be taken into account eventually and depending on how the healing units behave,
they are either super fucking broken or super fucking bad to use.
Maybe 5 snipers 1 heal sniper is the way to go. We wont know till the game is played by someone who gets that far.
However, RPG LAW states in the end of the game
it doesn't fucking matter how many or what units you picked because
your now one shotting everything anyway so play how ever you want.
Playing optimally just speeds the game up is all.
Dragon warrior 3 as an example,
the optimal way to play is 1 hero 3 jesters, but
you can still solo that game with 1 jester, that's RPG LAW. (although Dragon warrior is actually scaled correctly so even soloing with a maxed out character is actually a challenge but possible to do).
I don't know if the AI has any AOE shit but once again
RPG LAW states you can just ignore that shit and walk right through it if your max level.
Only exception would be if the
enemy AI controlled units have one shot mechanics. One shot mechanics are a whole different ball game and if this game has any of those
then by all means,
ignore this entire post.
Yea, Love this game if you haven't noticed xD
Would you marry this game though? Because in case you haven't noticed,
I love Angelic Saga to the point where if that game was a flesh and blood woman with long black hair, id marry her in a heart beat. That is really cool though that you found something that you really like and enjoy, everyone should have something like that.
I wasn't going to play this game at all, but because of you, I'm Gonna play this game for a bit.
I will not be playing optimally, Im gonna attempt to solo the game all the way until mission 3-3 with Riena Bujusama. It will take a long time but i intend to have her solo each mission until 3-3 30x each. then she should be more than prepared to solo mission 3-3. and in the end it will be RPG LAW that prevails.
I will make you a wager,
if I am successful in soloing mission 3-3 with Riena Bujusama,
you have to Start playing Angelic Saga or play it again if you quit previously.
If I still fail to solo mission 3-3 after finishing all the other missions 30 times with Riena, Not only will I become a permanent player of this game, ill buy you 5000 Nutaku Gold.
You honestly have nothing to lose by taking this wager.
Ill give you until this whole thread is locked to accept my wager. You don't have a lot of time to accept obviously because
U L M F will realize how dumb this game is and just lock this thread.
TL/DR
All you have to fucking do in this game is click start, get up, go into your kitchen, eat a roasted potato croquette or what ever the fuck, come back, sit down, and you won.
That's just shit game play no matter how you look at it.
This game isn't worth a minute of anyone's time, it's a
flip phone-cell phone level game at best.
Angelic Berserker, go ahead and play the first Sunrider: Mask of Arcadius.
I helped fund its kickstarter. :3
Play on one of harder difficulty if you want to, you might get raped in the butt by the AI that always have you outgunned. lol
I have played like Sengoku Rance and shit but idk. I might give it a try but I'm not gonna pay for it, ill just torrent it illegally because I don't care about supporting the creator of that VN, no offense to you though I hope you enjoy it though.