AWMBI - Discussion

[BurntToast]

RJ must be having trouble thinking of a reply for the Need to feed thread. It's been over two days and it's like... He's ignored it whilst still replying to everything else.

[ZeroSpace]

But what WILL make her cry those?

[Keylo]

Erm................ My statement was mainly that... Luna doesn't repent for her actions...and if she does, never with tears. She's horribly stubborn about what she believes is right, she never looks back on what she's done unless forced to, and even then, you're lucky if you get a "sorry" from the current her. Transformed? She'll apologize more, but "self-pity"? I highly doubt we'll EVER see that from Luna.

[ZeroSpace]

Why not?

[Keylo]

For one, Luna isn't really a selfish person. In that, she doesn't care much emotionally for what happens to herself, even in her pre-transformed state, she STILL doesn't care much for what happens to herself. Thus "self-pity" is just simply something she wouldn't do, if not outright looks down upon...

@Burnt: Also... I think RJ isn't posting because you really don't seem to be in the mood to RP based on your last post... >_>;;

[ToxicShock]

...that was Azure. I think Azure started the process of "taming" the slime, by being friendly towards it (at the tail-end of the Medic mission, as well as later), and their habit of "commingling" (I think I spelt that correctly...) with their children passed on the tameness to all the children. Unfortunately Azure didn't discover any means of having sex with a slime without being impregnated by it, and nobody else has spent very long in their company, so basically the Basement and its slime population exists to let players write smexings with monsters and/or threaten the safety of the Inn.

"Wild" slimes wouldn't share the same memories of playing around with Azure, and curious women wandering into the basement and being seduced, and are therefore quite a bit more aggressive. Get impregnated by a slime in the wild, and it won't let you go after you've given birth - it'll stick another baby in the oven.Heh. Howzabout one of those raptors? :p

Sorry i meant Kayi. but even at the time, all she had to do was accept it, except for the fact she was already in it's rape den, so I'm pretty sure a creature would be used to that. It's not like, Oh this seems so different not that they're LETTING ME have sex with them, instead of just not fighting

It sorta works like gender...

A succubus would rape Joseph, but one of those demonic dogs would just rip his throat, while the, "morphed" slimes in the Inn would just rape everybody.

If we capture a dog and put it in the basement, would the morphed slimes rape it?

[DeMatt]

Sorry i meant Kayi. but even at the time, all she had to do was accept it, except for the fact she was already in it's rape den, so I'm pretty sure a creature would be used to that. It's not like, Oh this seems so different not that they're LETTING ME have sex with them, instead of just not fightingActually, I was thinking more of the bit before Kali and Azure got captured - when they faced a giant slime woman, and Azure tried to be friendly to it and ended up getting hit with aphrodisiac and sexed.

I think that's the point at which the "tame" slimes started developing. The slimes making up the giant slime woman went, "Hey, if we imitate a woman and take it slow, they'll be more cooperative!", then Azure's first slime-child liked its mom enough to follow Azure home to the Inn, and really enjoyed playing with Azure as she tried to teach it more about sex. And they've been getting that behaviour reinforced each time someone wandered downstairs.

A'course, there's now seven slimes in the basement, and only one or two women have gone down there to feed 'em each day, so they're on kinda short rations at this point. So their hunger might override this "kindly" imitative behaviour fairly soon. Blast their lack of non-reproductive copulation.

[Keylo]

Speaking of which... >_>, after a certain simulation of a conversation with the Director, I believe I've found out what happens to people who piss her off... and why the slimes are kept there despite being a possible hazard. (Also on that note, the word "midget" is taboo in her presence.)

[Mamono Assault Force]

Slimes actually attach themselves to whoever they have sex with after intercourse, and store huge amounts of essence, which they don't mind, "Sharing" in a sexual way, with their family in the basement.

[BurntToast]

@Burnt: Also... I think RJ isn't posting because you really don't seem to be in the mood to RP based on your last post... >_>;;

I've played out Aya having sex with Bianca more times then I can remember. It just got a bit old, that's why I wanted to skip it this time and move on to whatever happens next. If RJ does have a problem with me wanting to skip this part then I wish he had said something instead of completely ignoring me for two days. If he had said something I would have played it out without complaining. I'd rather play through something that's gotten a little old then wait two days and having nothing happen.

The thing is, I was and still am in the mood to RP, I just didn't want to play out Aya doing the same thing with Bianca.

Edit- Aya's sex with Bianca was like random encounters in role playing games. It happened so often that I just wanted to skip it for a bit, however that's not to say I didn't want the game and story to progress.

[DeMatt]

I've played out Aya having sex with Bianca more times then I can remember. It just got a bit old, that's why I wanted to skip it this time and move on to whatever happens next. If RJ does have a problem with me wanting to skip this part then I wish he had said something instead of completely ignoring me for two days. If he had said something I would have played it out without complaining. I'd rather play through something that's gotten a little old then wait two days and having nothing happen.

The thing is, I was and still am in the mood to RP, I just didn't want to play out Aya doing the same thing with Bianca.

Edit- Aya's sex with Bianca was like random encounters in role playing games. It happened so often that I just wanted to skip it for a bit, however that's not to say I didn't want the game and story to progress.That's just it - this one, at least, isn't like the others. The Goddess is still there, leaning over Aya's and Bianca's shoulders, and she's probably going to stuff both of them with tentacles once Aya's got hers seated. Even if she doesn't go that far, I'm sure she's going to give advice and just generally encourage Aya to be a domineering, lusty mistress. To take Bianca and use her to the utmost, and drain her of every last drop of essence.

RJ can't fast-forward this scene. Aya's gonna have some reactions to make - unpleasant ones, if her thoughts up to this point are any indicator. For all I know, this scene might be his leadup to Aya facing off against (and losing to) the Goddess, and being kicked out of the mansion.

[BurningGold]

And looks like Luna just got captured. Oddly enough if she does get captured and raped it will be very similar to the way Iris was first caught and raped. Lol. I just wonder how I should have Iris go about this. I guess I could have her go to the water and fire an aimed shot at one of the jelly fish things. With only two of the monsters left and Iris and Luna still free and above water I guess the situation isn't all that bad.

[BurntToast]

That's just it - this one, at least, isn't like the others. The Goddess is still there, leaning over Aya's and Bianca's shoulders, and she's probably going to stuff both of them with tentacles once Aya's got hers seated. Even if she doesn't go that far, I'm sure she's going to give advice and just generally encourage Aya to be a domineering, lusty mistress. To take Bianca and use her to the utmost, and drain her of every last drop of essence.

RJ can't fast-forward this scene. Aya's gonna have some reactions to make - unpleasant ones, if her thoughts up to this point are any indicator. For all I know, this scene might be his leadup to Aya facing off against (and losing to) the Goddess, and being kicked out of the mansion.

I wish RJ had said something instead of ignoring me. I didn't really think that this scene could be all that important, which is my own fault I guess. If this scene is important then I'm sorry I wanted to skip it.

[Keylo]

And looks like Luna just got captured. Oddly enough if she does get captured and raped it will be very similar to the way Iris was first caught and raped. Lol. I just wonder how I should have Iris go about this. I guess I could have her go to the water and fire an aimed shot at one of the jelly fish things. With only two of the monsters left and Iris and Luna still free and above water I guess the situation isn't all that bad.

Better do it fast ;P, Luna can and "will" attempt suicide before she allows herself to be mind broken by them. The current Luna anyway. Second one?... Far less drastic.


@Burnt: Erm... I think you were supposed to take the hint yourself and realize that it was more "valuable" than simply another random feeding scene.

[BurningGold]

I want to know something before I have Iris bolt over to the water and start shooting. Exactly what are her odds of shooting the jellyfish? I'm pretty sure Raptor is using a ten sided die so what would the roll have to be to hit the jellyfish with an aimed shot, a double shot, and triple shot?

[DeMatt]

Better do it fast ;P, Luna can and "will" attempt suicide before she allows herself to be mind broken by them. The current Luna anyway. Second one?... Far less drastic.By GOD, Luna better not successfully pull that one off. She's too damn interesting as a character. Yeah, I can see her being that fanatical. Doesn't mean I have to like it. :mad:

[Keylo]

Eh...... BG, Given how two shots of Luna's hit, and she has around the same stats as Iris, I'd say good enough.

Also~ I'm leaving Luna's possible suicide dependent on if Iris can free her or not, if she can free herself, or if the jellyfish yanks the gun away before she can ;X.

[BurntToast]

I'm ready and waiting to pick up where things left off. Just letting everyone know this.

[ZeroSpace]

YES JELLY FISH!
GO!
MWHAHAHAHAHAHA

[BurningGold]

* Beats sense into ZeroSpace *

[ZeroSpace]

Thanks BG, you made me come to my senses.
*Takes away Luna's gun*
YES JELLY FISH! SHE'S ALL YOURS!

[BurntToast]

* Rehabilitates ZeroSpace *

[ZeroSpace]

*Gets out of rehab*
They found nothing wrong with me.

[BurntToast]

*Ignores*

He's not here. He doesn't exist. Wait, who doesn't exist? I don't actually know.

[ZeroSpace]

*Puts Burnt into Rehab*
He has... uh... some kinda problem in the head...

[ToxicShock]

Did all the timid guys die or something? It seems like every male you run into is a big big dick

[thetwo]

Did all the timid guys die or something? It seems like every male you run into is a big big dick

To be fair, most of the women manage that feat as well, despite the substantial morphological difficulties.

Edit:

(Because I wanna see what happens ... )

Heh, no you don't. Jenn's trying to play nice, but eventually she'll remember the events of a few minutes previously where she managed to make Mina cry without actually trying. Or worse yet "fuck her, I'm telling the director next time I have a few seconds alone". (Yea, okay, that second one is reserved for Mina actually trying to rape Jenn.)

[Keylo]

If it makes you happier, in a simulation of a "What-if Mina and Luna met", Mina ended up a bloody pulp on the floor crying >.>, after being brutally beaten by our resident psycho for refusing to go away...

[ZeroSpace]

What if rehab Luna met Mina?

[Keylo]

From the partial simulation that was done before we grew bored and went off to game?

Far less drastic, although varying depending on whether Luna got to know Mina before she found out she was a futa, or if the first thing she found out was that Mina was a futa...

[DeMatt]

Heh, no you don't. Jenn's trying to play nice, but eventually she'll remember the events of a few minutes previously where she managed to make Mina cry without actually trying. Or worse yet "fuck her, I'm telling the director next time I have a few seconds alone". (Yea, okay, that second one is reserved for Mina actually trying to rape Jenn.)Well, actually I was more curious about Jenn's reaction (as posted, "grab her poking finger"), and Mina's reaction to that. Can't justify Melissa not getting involved much beyond then. For that matter, I'm not really confident that Melissa not getting involved yet is itself reasonable... it's not like either of them is whispering.
If it makes you happier, in a simulation of a "What-if Mina and Luna met", Mina ended up a bloody pulp on the floor crying >.>, after being brutally beaten by our resident psycho for refusing to go away...
What if rehab Luna met Mina?
From the partial simulation that was done before we grew bored and went off to game?

Far less drastic, although varying depending on whether Luna got to know Mina before she found out she was a futa, or if the first thing she found out was that Mina was a futa...Awww, poor Mina... she just wants to get everyone to laugh with her... :o

*mutters something inane about annoying Clownish disadvantage*

[BurningGold]

I did a bit of thinking regarding my character. It's pretty obvious to everyone that Iris is boring. She really lacks personality and just traits that make her interesting. She's sort of the typical quiet and caring person, the one who really isn't all that memorable. Unlike Luna and Selena and some other characters she's just dull as dish water. Nothing special and unique, hell her stats are even boring. They are so basic and well rounded that it leaves Iris with no real great weakness or strength.

I really just don't like Iris all that much any more, she's boring. I don't like the idea of killing her off and playing with a new character, such as Casey. She's important and her dying would result in Luna doing something that would more then likely result in her death, Jesse and Emily to get depressed, possibly David getting a bit upset, and maybe a few other characters getting sad, like River and Lin, maybe Jenn.

In short Iris dying would have a lot of negitive effect of certain people, hell the director might even frown at it. With one of her most loyal and hard working servants dead and all, lol.

I need something to happen to Iris, something that would change her personality and make her more interesting. I've though about her becoming a futa and succumbs. Both of those happening could work. I'm open to Iris becoming a futa but not so sure on the succumbs idea, mainly because the director and everyone else would view her as a full blooded monster and try to kill her on sight.


Tl;dr

I need Iris to become interesting. Any idea's?

[Keylo]

Well, for one, it's more of... no offense to you, but it's more of a lack of "realistic emotion" behind the character. One of the first steps to creating an "interesting" character, is to have her seem believable, and her actions logical for a real person to take rather than have them be like that of say... a RPG gamer.

For example, from a gamer's perspective, knowing that Joseph would be an useful asset to the inn, we decided to secure him at almost all costs. However realistically, if someone was being THAT uncooperative, acting like such an asshole, etc, I highly doubt anyone would have tried dragging him along, if they didn't just outright try to beat him to the ground for being such a jerk.

Not to criticize your or anything, but I've noticed that you tend to lean towards what would benefit the players more than what is logical. It's fine to have your characters do the former, but it's also better to have it make sense given a character's personality, thought processes, etc so as to make it logically sound and seeming less out of place.

Just some advice...

[Tassadar]

Iris getting futa'd would add interesting internal conflict, as she'd suddenly have the urge to feed on her sister and her friends, and the fact that she drains essence would make her try to starve herself since feeding on people goes against her kindly nature. But I'm not sure if that would make her significantly different to play most of the time.
The idea of her getting turned into a succubus I don't know about, since we don't really know much of anything about them yet besides that they manipulate emotions.
One possibility might be her getting captured and converted by the goddess, turning her into something kind of like Aya. Not sure how that might play out though.
Though, except for the futa one, I don't see Luna allowing Iris to live after getting turned for any of these.
One more is just using shock; get her captured and raped for a while, or have something bad happen to someone she cares about (Luna attempting suicide might do the trick,) and use that to induce a personality shift.

[Keylo]

Tass is right about the conversion to the goddess's side /becoming a succubus... >_>

Luna probably would gun down Iris if those two happened...albeit, crying silent tears in her heart for having to kill a person she cared about with her own hands once again once they stepped on the path of no return. Even the second Luna wouldn't be exempt to killing Iris in the event of those two... although she'd probably be crying in actuality as she pulled the trigger for "repeating tragedy"... and probably go into a breakdown that results in her getting killed from a suicide run on the Goddess *cough*.

[BurningGold]

Ill admit that in the beginning I wanted a character that would always try to do what is best for the inn, a character that was mainly helpful to everyone and never caused any problems. I regret that decision because in the long run it's boring.


On another note.

I don't want Iris to switch to the evil side, seriously, fuck that. I guess her becoming a succumbs just can't happen mainly because if she does I guess she just instantly becomes evil. I wish she could become one whilst remaining good and control of herself, sadly I guess that isn't possible.

How would Luna react to Iris becoming a Futa? At first she would remain the same, in a state of shock, but the same. More then likely she would keep her member a secrete and silently pull Luna away to tell her about it. She would more then likely go about it like this.

" Luna... Remember those minions of the goddess? Those white haired woman who tried to rape us? Tell me sister... If I was turned into one of those... Would you still love me..?

[ToxicShock]

Eh, I don't see any problems. Then again, I'm a futa, so it's hard to gauge.

[Keylo]

Ill admit that in the beginning I wanted a character that would always try to do what is best for the inn, a character that was mainly helpful to everyone and never caused any problems. I regret that decision because in the long run it's boring.


On another note.

I don't want Iris to switch to the evil side, seriously, fuck that. I guess her becoming a succumbs just can't happen mainly because if she does I guess she just instantly becomes evil. I wish she could become one whilst remaining good and control of herself, sadly I guess that isn't possible.

How would Luna react to Iris becoming a Futa? At first she would remain the same, in a state of shock, but the same. More then likely she would keep her member a secrete and silently pull Luna away to tell her about it. She would more then likely go about it like this.

" Luna... Remember those minions of the goddess? Those white haired woman who tried to rape us? Tell me sister... If I was turned into one of those... Would you still love me..?

Succubus isn't necessarily evil, just that they're pretty much people who succumbed to sexual desires willingly...and really not trustworthy. Also, which Luna's reaction are you looking for? Transformed? Pre-transformed?

Current Luna: "..."

Followed by a:

"Tell me who did this to you sister..."

In short, Luna would go on a killing spree of all futas she could get her hands on if she couldn't find a specific one. That includes the ones at the prison btw...

As for transformed Luna...Similar reaction, in that she'd be angry at what happened to Iris, however she probably wouldn't go on a pointless rampage... Unless she did find the ones directly responsible for it. Then be prepared for a "backlash reversion" in which her "slaughter happy" side comes out.

[BurningGold]

I'm going to contact Raptor about Iris becoming a succumbs and get the solid facts and ect.

I guess if I decide to have Iris become a futa then it should be after her and Jesse transform Luna, if they can manage to. Maybe Iris doesn't even have to be raped, maybe something a bit less horrible can happen. Like she could meet someone at the prison or Mina or some other person and somehow end up having sex with them willingly, during intercourse giving one of them a blow job. If that did happen then uh... Well I guess Iris could change a bit. Eh.

[Keylo]

Becoming a futa/succubus isn't necessary for a character change you know... other less drastic events could cause change in Iris, from simple things like conversations, to heavy things like having a loved one die... Anything can be used for character development really. Hell, my original design for Luna was a mindless psycho killer that would random join missions, kill monsters, perhaps kill her own teammates if they went against her policy, then attempt suicide if raped. Barely close to anything she is now/will become... following many "natural" developments from just playing the character's personality, refining it, etc.

[BurningGold]

Lol I saw that mistake you had to edit.

Anyways. I guess Ill just let her flesh out. I'm still going to ask Raptor about the succumbs thing though, that could be very interesting.

One thing that will drastically change Iris that might happen is Luna's death. If Luna does die Iris could become really depressed and might try killing herself. Some other things might also happen.

[ZeroSpace]

Well you can't just change someone physically and hope that their personality changes.
For one, what kinda of personality do you want to change?
you want to make her more positive? Aggressive? Colder? More distant? or more selfish? We really can't help you if you don't give us the general direction you want to go. Cause interesting could come in many ways.

[ToxicShock]

I think it's interesting and that type of personality is necessary for conflict or at least some type of comparison. I would assume most girls are "using" the inn and it's resources to stay alive, so a girl who'd actually about the inn's survival and trying to help out is semi-rare.

For instance: the difference between a girl who is out for what she believes is good and best for herself as opposed to the whole of the in. When Iris and Emily had to help bomb that place full of comatose women. It was almost necessary and picture perfect how emily went against the actions of it, and although Iris regretted it, she almost immediately went with Shiva, saying that blowing up the place was priority, sad though it may be.

It's good to have those characters, else it's kinda just The director and whoever happens to agree with her at the time vs the world.

[Mamono Assault Force]

The biggest disadvantage, asides from the appearance, to being a succubi, is the dangerously high lecherous habits they come with. Whoever is a succubus will want to have sex often, there's no, "Well, she can hold it in," unlike the futa's. It's not that succubi can't hold it in, it's just that they don't want to hold in their sexual desires.

While they can pretend to have other desires in an attempt to reach that goal, they both need, and want sex. No if's, and's, or but's about it.

[ZeroSpace]

That sounds completely right on to me.

[Loli Defense Force]

The biggest disadvantage, asides from the appearance, to being a succubi, is the dangerously high lecherous habits they come with. Whoever is a succubus will want to have sex often, there's no, "Well, she can hold it in," unlike the futa's. It's not that succubi can't hold it in, it's just that they don't want to hold in their sexual desires.

While they can pretend to have other desires in an attempt to reach that goal, they both need, and want sex. No if's, and's, or but's about it.

You mean like Selena? :confused:

[Shrike7]

Alright BG, I'm sorry, but I've twitched every time I've read your recent posts. Its 'SuccuBUS', not 'SuccuMBS', please, they're two different words, and the meanings are different enough to give me a headache when they're switched around. Not trying to be mean or anything, just pointing it out in the hope that its just an error you haven't caught yet.

[DeMatt]

You mean like Selena? :confused:... Probably more so. Selena, after all, takes care of Kitty after she's done screwing her unconscious. I suspect a succubus would not be interested in that.
River shakes her head, sounding deathly serious. "It's true, you might hurt their feelings a little, but it needs to be done. If we are going to fix all this, we need everybody, everybody helping out the best they can. And the longer it takes, the less chance we have of succeeding. The sooner everyone realizes that, the sooner we can ignore the petty differences like yours, Regina's, and whoever else's 'problem' and start making sure we have a way to end this." She says evenly, looking Emilia right in the eyes.Riv-ER... ever think that maybe Emilia, by painting and just generally being polite and diplomatic, might be a symbol of what the prison futas are working towards? A reminder that yes, they can be and are civilized, not ruled by their lusts? And that's why the prison futas and prison women all insist on doing everything else for her?

[Shrike7]

Oh I know that, but River hasn't clued in yet ;)

She's an action oriented person, and the only artsy-type thing she does (singing) is something she does when she's alone, the only person that's heard her is Cal, because she left the headset on. She's also procrastinating a bit, because she's on a two-day vacation from getting things done herself XD

[BurningGold]

I should find a reason to have Iris go to the prison. She has some personal problems with futas, mainly because one almost raped her and Luna, so to make peace with their kind would be great character development.

[Keylo]

Errrrr........ Quick logical question... given that Iris didn't even get raped really, the fact that is was mainly a minor encounter, the fact that the encounter with the Goddess herself would probably leave more of an impression on her memory... why would Iris try to 'make peace" with them/really care about the futas (ignoring the fact that those futas in particular were mindless drones without any real personality)?... I could understand if she was raped by one of the prison futas, Selena, or Mina even, but...

I don't mean any real offense, but such an action is a tad too forced... >.>

Edit: On a new note, if you really wanted Iris to apologize/make peace for something, how about apologizing for blowing their friends to kingdom come in that mission?... Of course, we'd need some buildup to the point where the futas find out that Iris is partially responsible for it but... yeah.

[BurningGold]

Keylo. I'm not trying to make Iris head over to the Prison and try to make peace with them. I was sorta saying that I should find a reason, although I wasn't actually going to have my character run around looking for a purpose to go.

If the chance comes like someone asking Iris to go to the prison with them or something then ill take the chance. In doing this hopefully my character will see that the futas aren't all bad people and wouldn't have a negative view of them. She has this view mainly because one almost raped her and and three almost killed Joseph.

[SilentSilth]

Uhm.. I'm willing to sign up for a mission (Wild Animals, I guess); Anyone else interested?

If not, I'm just gonna have Kaila go on a supply run later tonight.

[Keylo]

*points to Zero and Toxic*

Oy lazy bums, get your arses moving. Tis mission time :3.

[ZeroSpace]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ToxicShock]

o.O

*cough cough* Oh my goodness, *cough* I seem to *cough* I seem to have come down with something *cough* I'll just be... over there. *cough cough*

[Keylo]

*grabs Toxic by the hair and drags him/her/it back*

Get your ass back in here.

[ToxicShock]

But I just want to unlock something, I don't want to die :(

I gotta say, I thought the jellyfish would be more rape-heavy, i didn't think they'd EAT people.
Hell, the egg at the museum would swallow people and fill them with eggs, not digest them :eek:

[DeMatt]

I gotta say, I thought the jellyfish would be more rape-heavy, i didn't think they'd EAT people.
Hell, the egg at the museum would swallow people and fill them with eggs, not digest them :eek:...the impression I get, is that the acid bit merely destroyed Luna's clothes.

It wrapped her up in its tendrils, it pulled her inside so she's got somewhere to breathe when it dives, it dissolved her clothes, and is positioning a tentacle to pump her full of eggs.

A'course, with two pistoleers popping bullets downrange, there's a good chance it won't get to the actual rape part.

[Keylo]

I'm hoping it doesn't get to the actual rape... Otherwise, enjoy your "beast"/"rage" Luna for a while.



"I'LL TEAR THEE LIMB FROM LIMB MAGGOT!"

[ToxicShock]

Oh good, my mind was too much on the current topic. So the second I heard "acid dissolving her clothes" I not only imagined that she'd still be sitting in it, but I imagined that the tube would be towards the same purpose.

Sickening thought, but in all fairness that's not unpopular in some hentai scenes, with tentacles to almost dissolve the person on the inside. ..Of course, it never actually happens cuz the heroine escapes, but it's mentioned.

Plus, there was the fact that, in the museum's case, RJ didn't get specific about what was going on inside the egg, so now that he was getting specific, I thought Luna was gonna be jellyfood :(

I iz scared, hold me

[Mamono Assault Force]

*Holds Toxic*

The acid, having got on Luna's skin, and not dissolving, but making a slight burning sensation, is only strong enough to dissolve her clothes, not her outer layer of skin. So don't worry about that. The acid is just my excuse to get her naked. :D

And, provided Iris and Emily don't save her in time, Luna just might be a mommy! :p

[BurningGold]

And, provided Iris and Emily don't save her in time, Luna just might be a mommy! :p

Hmm... For some reason I don't think that Luna would make a great mama...

[Keylo]

If you call beating a "kid" to death or trying to coat hanger it being a good mama... then maybe. >.>;;

Conclusion: Luna is not meant for motherhood.

[BurningGold]

Conclusion: Luna is not meant for motherhood.

Motherhood seems like something Iris would be better at out of the two sisters, in my opinion. Although it would be interesting to see how a human child of Luna turned out, lol.

[Keylo]

There wouldn't be one, given the current Luna. And if that child was a result of Luna being raped, she'd choke it to death with her own hands ;X.

[ZeroSpace]

If you guys say it that way, it makes Luna feel like a lesbian.
Because thats like saying Luna would never fuck a guy.
Edit: Current Luna I mean.

[Keylo]

Uh, current Luna doesn't fuck anyone period (unless forced). >.> She's "disinterested in such carnal activities"...Reformed Luna can be coaxed into sexing, but will probably start out with a similar mindset.

[BurntToast]

Uh, current Luna doesn't fuck anyone period (unless forced). >.> She's "disinterested in such carnal activities"...Reformed Luna can be coaxed into sexing, but will probably start out with a similar mindset.

So nobody could get into Luna's pants without force? Not even Jesse? How about Iris?

[Keylo]

Current Luna, no. For one, she's not interested, period. It's probably the furthest thing on her mind, if it's in her mind at all. (Or in short: No sex desire without the use of drugs to change that.) You could always use force to get in her pants of course, but then that lovely mental self defense mechanism kicks in and...well... you might as well be fucking a corpse, cause she gives no reactions once she pulls the emergency mental "shutdown". So no, unless you use an aphrodisiac... not even Jesse or Iris could actually get Luna to willingly engage in such activities/respond.

Transformed Luna?............ Let's just say, that in a mock scenario, Jesse managed to turn our favorite psycho killer into a docile "Kitty" in a short space of time... and perfectly trained at that >_>;;;

[BurntToast]

I don't think Jesse will try to do that in the game. Although that mocj scenario seems interesting, wish I could see it. Also, I wonder how Luna would react if she woke up to find out that she had been under the effect of a monsters aphrodisiac and ended up raping Iris or Emily...

[Keylo]

It was more on a whim, but yeah, was rather amusing.


And as for the latter... two varied responses.

@Raping Emily: "..." (That'd be it, she doesn't care about Emily at all really :x...)

@Raping Iris: "I...What I did...is unforgivable..." *points to gun to head* "Goodbye sister..."

[BurningGold]

Lulz... I guess Iris would have to tackle Luna and force the gun away from her head before she killed herself in that scenario. Even if Luna did violate her Iris wouldn't be upset with her, she would actually freak out and start crying madly if Luna attempted to kill herself, begging her not to do it and leave her alone.

Ever sense her father died Iris has felt incredibly alone on the inside, although she hid it. Even after meeting Emily and Jesse she still felt sad and alone on the inside. After she met Luna she didn't feel so alone, after finally meeting a family member.

[ZeroSpace]

Kitty Luna sounds fun to be with, she sounds like she'd be a normal person other than being a sex toy of Jesse.

[Keylo]

Kitty Luna raped the Director. If that helps.

[BurningGold]

Poor Luna, looks like she won't get to experience the wonders of motherhood.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Yeah, but here's to hoping Luna gets a boy friend!

*Raises glass*

[BurningGold]

Speaking of boyfriends. I wonder if Iris has a shot with David. I'm pretty sure she's on his good side at the moment, lol.

[DeMatt]

Ai yai yai. This diplomacy bit's not going well at all, is it? River totally missed Emilia's allusion to futa-feeding, and her adherence to sleeping alone is seriously discouraging Emilia.

Now, I can't say that River's attitude is non-representative, but Emilia's attempts to dance around the issues are clearly going over River's head. I'm sure that by now Emilia would be recognizing that River's a very direct sort of person. She needs to get River into some office-type setting - something formal and official - and tell her using short words what the situation is.

"We have to have nightly sex with ordinary women. If we don't, we start trying to rape them the next day."

[BurntToast]

Ah the prison. Sometimes I wish Aya and Bianca ended up there.

[Keylo]

Yeah...

Well, on a more positive note... At least River isn't as biased as some members of the inn... like Luna...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"...So you are cursed to become monsters?"

It was then,that Luna pointed her gun to Emilia's head.

"May thy soul achieve salvation..."

With that, before anyone could stop her she pulled the trigger...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yeah...I say it's better for a dense River to keep missing the point then for someone radical who understands the point to be doing the negotiations instead.

[ZeroSpace]

I just found out...
LUNA IS SAVED.
Damn.
Less Drama for us.

[Keylo]

Zero, wanna die? :)

[BurntToast]

Lets all sacrifice Zero for the great sex goddess. We shall drain his body of blood and drink it as we feed the flesh to the demons of hell.

[ZeroSpace]

@ Keylo
Heh, I totally did not wish for your character to be raped, nope, not happening here....
DON'T HURT ME!
TAKE LIN INSTEAD!

@ Toast(y)
Why Hell?
Why Blood?
Why Demons?
Why Sacrifice me?
Who's the Sex goddess?
What About Raptor Jesus?
Why don't we give me to RJ?
Why don't I want to be sacrificed?
Why am I asking so many damn questions?
Why am I asking so many questions to make a slope?

[Keylo]

I already have Lin here, see?

*holds up gagged and bound Lin for the world to see*

Which is why you need to die now :).

[BurntToast]

Hahahahaha...

Ill get the shoe horn...

[ToxicShock]

I still go on the record and say I'd like to see a dude who's not a dick.

And I still hate david

[BurntToast]

Cal isn't a dick. >_>

[ToxicShock]

Must be why River almost cut his dick off

Plus he was made, he wasn't given.

[BurningGold]

Why do you hate David again?

Also, you all don't think I had Iris overreact do you?

[ZeroSpace]

So you want Rj to make a not dicky guy?

[Tassadar]

@BurningGold: Not at all.

@RJ: Respond to my thread damnit. It's been 2 days and you've been on several times.

[BurningGold]

@BurningGold: Not at all.

@RJ: Respond to my thread damnit. It's been 2 days and you've been on several times.

Aww... Don't be too tough on him. Sometimes he's too busy to reply to everyone and has to keep people waiting, I think.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Sometimes I click on your thread, get distracted, go to sleep/shut off the computer, and log back on, and completely forget that I made your thread not new no more.

=3

[Keylo]

Completely not my fault by the way, I've been falling asleep early of late.

[Tassadar]

Lol, it's okay. Back on track now.

[Shrike7]

There wouldn't be one, given the current Luna. And if that child was a result of Luna being raped, she'd choke it to death with her own hands ;X.

Umm, yeah... remind me again why Luna would kill a perfectly innocent, completely sin-less (even by her standards, I would say) 100% non-monstrous human being? it confuses me...

Ai yai yai. This diplomacy bit's not going well at all, is it? River totally missed Emilia's allusion to futa-feeding, and her adherence to sleeping alone is seriously discouraging Emilia.

Now, I can't say that River's attitude is non-representative, but Emilia's attempts to dance around the issues are clearly going over River's head. I'm sure that by now Emilia would be recognizing that River's a very direct sort of person. She needs to get River into some office-type setting - something formal and official - and tell her using short words what the situation is.

"We have to have nightly sex with ordinary women. If we don't, we start trying to rape them the next day."

Yeah, left to her own devices (not literally :P), River has almost no sex drive, and a 1 intelligence and her action-oriented attitude means she's way over her head. On the bright side, I'm having fun playing dumb ;)

[ToxicShock]

I don't see how her personal behavior should affect the validity of her views. It's almost like saying "Well you haven't slept with us, so you wouldn't sleep with us, and you should think no one else ever would either"

It's a simple thing that is used in discussion about a lot of things, especially the argument of racism, which is parallel to this. Although you don't personally do something or even if you don't condone it, you can see that other people do.

[Shrike7]

exactly, and I already plan on sticking that into my next post, with particular reference to what she's heard about Jesse ;)

[Keylo]

Umm, yeah... remind me again why Luna would kill a perfectly innocent, completely sin-less (even by her standards, I would say) 100% non-monstrous human being? it confuses me...



Err... no... >.>. "Spawn of the devil", think towards that direction... A "child" =/= automatically innocent in her book, and if it was the result of a rapist human/sinner... that, by her twisted standards, would automatically equate it as evil.

To make things simple: Luna is horribly biased in her judging on the "Worth of Existence", and highly whimsical at that. Were she to be raped and become pregnant with the rapist's child as a result, she would most likely used twisted logic to "define" the unwanted child as "evil". And then use that as "proper reason" to kill the child.



(I think that's the proper explaination for it, just woke up and I'm groggy as hell...)

[ToxicShock]

exactly, and I already plan on sticking that into my next post, with particular reference to what she's heard about Jesse ;)

sexy

[BurningGold]

Seems like Iris and friends are about to finish up the mission. I'm hoping everything will be done before the end of the week and everyone returned to the inn. Hopefully before the mission does end Weird gets back from his disappearance and I find that new character avatar for Iris. I'm trying to find something a bit older looking, Iris's current look has been bugging me due to how childish it looks.

[ZeroSpace]

Err... no... >.>. "Spawn of the devil", think towards that direction... A "child" =/= automatically innocent in her book, and if it was the result of a rapist human/sinner... that, by her twisted standards, would automatically equate it as evil.

To make things simple: Luna is horribly biased in her judging on the "Worth of Existence", and highly whimsical at that. Were she to be raped and become pregnant with the rapist's child as a result, she would most likely used twisted logic to "define" the unwanted child as "evil". And then use that as "proper reason" to kill the child.



(I think that's the proper explaination for it, just woke up and I'm groggy as hell...)


So basically Luna would just make an excuse to define that child as evil so she can killz it?

[DeMatt]

So basically Luna would just make an excuse to define that child as evil so she can killz it?Luna would not come up with the idea that "the child is not responsible for the sins of the father". Or at least that's how it sounds to me.

[Keylo]

Bingo. Rather than "the child is not responsible for the sins of the father", she'd come up with: "the child IS responsible for the sins of the father" 'unless proven otherwise'.

[thetwo]

Heh, Ashley woke up in the prison instead of the Inn. :P

I wonder how they deal with non-consensual sex there? Is the futa off the hook because she couldn't help herself? And will the people in the prison send Ashley our way if she doesn't accept the futa situation? This and more next time on "Unpacking"!

[Tassadar]

Hence the "Crap with a capital C." If it weren't so out of character, I'd have her try to strangle the one that assraped her while she's still asleep. She's going to try to get out of there ASAP, once she finds out what happened to mommy.

[BurntToast]

Damn it. I guess I hadn't thought out that last post very well.

[BurningGold]

Upon reading the Unpacking thread it seems that a certain rapist futa may just have a high risk of being attacked or getting her ear chewed out. If I was playing Tassadar's character I might just have Ashley pick up that tray of food and slam it down onto the futa, lol. A bit cruel but hey, she is a rapist. She kinda does deserve it. If my character had been in the situation Ashley was in then... Actually I don't even think the futa would of been able to defeat Iris. Iris is sort of a warrior. But if the futa had managed to rape Iris and the white haired girl had woke up in the prison like that then Iris more then likley would of tried to get even with the futa before forgiving her. Getting even would more then likely mean giving the woman a good punch to the face then getting an apology.

On another note, If Neo doesn't return then Iris will have to find a new love interest. David would work, I guess. He seems to not hate her.

[Shrike7]

Bingo. Rather than "the child is not responsible for the sins of the father", she'd come up with: "the child IS responsible for the sins of the father" 'unless proven otherwise'.

If Luna thought like that, why didn't she just kill the blue-eyed loli and find someone truly pure to be her avenging angel, hmm? So far, all I've really heard has been 'because she's crazy', worded several different ways :/

[Keylo]

"Your sin, is your very existence!"

Something like that is actually more appropriate for her own justification of killing the child. Perhaps I'm simply not able to word it very well, but in short, Luna's character is designed to be heavily biased, especially when they have to do with her directly. A purposely flawed set of morals if you will, to mirror that of religious fanatics in real life. A sin committed against herself or someone she cares about is ten times worse than a sin committed against a stranger or a person she could care less about.

The above somewhat ties into why she didn't kill Fleur, but would kill (or rather, abort the baby if possible) a child forced upon her by a rapist. But in Fleur's case, it's more of the girl "proving she was worthy of living on" during their initial fight and encounter. Hence the "unless proven otherwise" clause.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Long story short, and without the mumbo jumbo, Luna's bat shit crazy, and has no logic behind any decision she makes, rendering your understanding of what she does, and why she does it, an impossible feat.

[Keylo]

She 'is' is a "religious fanatic" after all. You think we understand what them extreme race supremacists, suicide bombers, and insane preachers think when they're riled up?

[Mamono Assault Force]

"Horray! I get to go to Heaven!"

[Shrike7]

Actually, yeah, I think I understand most real-life religious fanatics fairly well. I could be wrong, but my theories seem to be pretty solid in the examples I've found...

[Tassadar]

Upon reading the Unpacking thread it seems that a certain rapist futa may just have a high risk of being attacked or getting her ear chewed out. If I was playing Tassadar's character I might just have Ashley pick up that tray of food and slam it down onto the futa, lol. A bit cruel but hey, she is a rapist. She kinda does deserve it. If my character had been in the situation Ashley was in then... Actually I don't even think the futa would of been able to defeat Iris. Iris is sort of a warrior. But if the futa had managed to rape Iris and the white haired girl had woke up in the prison like that then Iris more then likley would of tried to get even with the futa before forgiving her. Getting even would more then likely mean giving the woman a good punch to the face then getting an apology.

On another note, If Neo doesn't return then Iris will have to find a new love interest. David would work, I guess. He seems to not hate her.

Ashley's an angry bitch sometimes, but not really a cold blooded murderer. As far as she knows, the futas are still human, and she's not going to walk over and kill her, least of all with a bunch of other people not 20 feet away. However, if she got into a position that would let this particular one get killed, or the futa attacked her or her mother again, she wouldn't bat an eyelash at the idea of her ending up six feet under. That, and Ashleys strength is piddly, and she doesn't have a knife on her, so I don't think she'd win if she tried to kill the futa anyway.

[BurntToast]

You know what would be really interesting? If we all switched characters for a little bit.

[ToxicShock]

I can't imagine how she'd be accepting though. I mean, the woman was extremely forward and considering she's already part of the prison, she should know better of being out when those thoughts could hit her. of course you don't know that, but I think if that happened, once finding out the order of the prison, (and hoping they're not ALL like the rapist) one would yell at their leader for the girls conduct. I mean, if it's girls from the prison that are going outside and raping people, it's entirely possible they forced it on selena and even were the ones who changed her.

I mean, that's no way to get members :( (no pun intended)

[Tassadar]

Not accepting, just not physically violent. If the futa tries to talk to her, she's going to be as openly hostile as possible without starting a fight.

[ToxicShock]

TELL ON HER TELL ON HER TELL ON HER

[DeMatt]

I think we're gonna have to wait and see what the mom has to say. After all, it's possible Mom thumped some sense into the futa-woman, or it's possible futa-woman showed more restraint in sweet-talking Mom.

Or another group of satiated futas showed up and thumped sense into Ashley's rapist, then dragged the threesome off to the Prison. We don't have enough information yet.

It's good that Ashley's calm enough not to go immediately berserk. Now to see what Mom has to say.

[BurntToast]

Haha, I laughed hard after finding out what happened to the futa. A fucking frying pan to the noggin, ha.

[ToxicShock]

HAVE HER DICK CUT OFF!


..my god, the things you think you'd never say in your life

[DeMatt]

Well, there ya go. Mom clobbered missus futa with a frying pan, and then some other... um, people?... showed up and talked her into going with them to the Prison.

Of course, that doesn't explain why Mom couldn't toss a pile of random clothing into a box and take them along, instead of wearing "rag-like" underwear after they got there. It's only the next day, after all; clothing doesn't wear out that easily.

I'm confused - are the things she's describing as "looked like aliens", the people who picked them up, or the monsters she saw while travelling?

[Shrike7]

The monsters seen while travelling.

As for the clothes, the prison people cut up clothes to make the rags, it leads to a longer supply, as one set of clothes can be turned into rags for about three people :)

[DeMatt]

BurntToast: Two bits of advice, which you can take as you will - as I prefer, with large grains of salt:

- Aya needs to talk more. The only person who can read her mind is the Goddess. Everybody else depends on her verbal cues. Yes, even Cassandra, despite her name.
- Take some time to review your previous posts, before posting the next. It'll help keep Aya's behaviour consistent from post to post.

As for the clothes, the prison people cut up clothes to make the rags, it leads to a longer supply, as one set of clothes can be turned into rags for about three people :)Pish. There's - what? two hundred? - reasonably civilized survivors (as in, "wears clothes") running around a city originally populated in the tens of thousands. Why are they wasting time tearing up perfectly good clothes, when there's TONS around?

[ToxicShock]

Joseph suddenly found himself unable to stand, and he placed his back against the wall, and slid down so that he was sitting against the wall. He was breathing heavily, and looked dazed, "I'm... I'm kinda tired... ah..." he said, looking sleepless, and submissive.

QUICK! SOMEONE RAPE HIM!

[Mamono Assault Force]

QUICK! SOMEONE RAPE HIM!

=O

[ToxicShock]

8=( , , , )==D~~~ O=

[Shrike7]

Well, picture yourself in a castle under seige. Supply lines have been cut off, but you have let's say, enough food to eat well for 6 months. Why start rationing now? I mean, it's not like its an immediate problem, right?

And yes, I realize that isn't a perfect metaphor, but you get the point, I hope?

[Mamono Assault Force]

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=1905

[ZeroSpace]

That a picture of what happenes when you guys are together in bed?

[Mamono Assault Force]

=3

[Loli Defense Force]

RJ, stop drawing my cock >: |

[Mamono Assault Force]

Naw, naw, naw, yer cock, I would have drawn like dis;

8=D

:p

[Tassadar]

The monsters seen while travelling.

As for the clothes, the prison people cut up clothes to make the rags, it leads to a longer supply, as one set of clothes can be turned into rags for about three people :)

That was my question. Unless they threw me in with the woman who refused to put up with them, which is honestly probably a good idea. I still fully intend for Ashley to gtfo as soon as possible. Her first experience with them was kind of.... negative, and as is she's not much the type to put up with a large number of similar individuals around her.

[BurningGold]

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/picture.php?albumid=116&pictureid=1251 "I'm waiting for someone to come back, and I need to be right here when she does."



Is she talking about Luna or Iris?

[DeMatt]

Well, picture yourself in a castle under seige. Supply lines have been cut off, but you have let's say, enough food to eat well for 6 months. Why start rationing now? I mean, it's not like its an immediate problem, right?

And yes, I realize that isn't a perfect metaphor, but you get the point, I hope?I... do get the point... but with the clothes, there ARE more immediate problems. Weapons. Food. Fortifications. Places for the futas to bed the regular women, that're not gonna turn off either party. Tearing up the clothes takes time and effort.

I'd understand it more if it were along the lines of, "everyone's wearing just enough for decency" - so shirt + pants, set of underwear, or some random combination thereof, but only one layer over each area. Not "oh, we're going to cut up this perfectly good T-shirt and make breastbands out of it".

I'd understand it more if it was a month or so in the future, but right now in the "Unpacking" thread, it's been less than twenty-four hours, and they've already refitted everybody. The "Prison" thread makes more sense, as it's been a week.

[Tassadar]

I agree with DeMatt. Unless Ashley was out for more than a day. Also, when the time skip happens, if she's still in the prison for the time skip can I have her working out or improving her dexterity or something? Doesn't have to be a lot, I just want to ask.

[BurntToast]

Why do you guys always have to nitpick and question every little thing?

[Tassadar]

Cuz. I don't think RJ minds all that much, it's okay if he does a few things that don't make any sense, we just have to beat it to death if we catch it.

Also, one possibility is that Ashley was in a part of town that didn't get hit until a day or two later, and the prison had already been well established. Also, why did they put her in the same room as the futa that raped her? That's just weird.

[ZeroSpace]

Problem.
Is she's there how she's gonna get to the inn suddenly and apply for a mission?
So instead of worrying about minor things like this lets get rid of this major block ASAP SO I CAN START DOING A MISSION.
I am getting bored spamming Why and What in the Last post thread.

[DeMatt]

Problem.
Is she's there how she's gonna get to the inn suddenly and apply for a mission?
So instead of worrying about minor things like this lets get rid of this major block ASAP SO I CAN START DOING A MISSION.
I am getting bored spamming Why and What in the Last post thread.You've GOT three characters for a mission. ToxicShock's Josie, SilentSilth's Kaila, and Rin.

Any time now.

[Loli Defense Force]

Selena's always up for missions, just no one seems to ever want to go with her :/

[DeMatt]

Fine, drop Josie and add Selena. Still three characters, the limit for a mission. Post in the "Wild Animals" thread if you want to do that, or petition RJ for a looting thread if that's what you want to do.

[ToxicShock]

I thought there was a different number for plot missions or something. i kinda wanna go but I still want that looting run. Sure it's just a glorified looting run, I realize, but it's still wasted until I do something more about it.

Would selena be up for going to the police station with me?

[Shrike7]

Why do you guys always have to nitpick and question every little thing?

It's like if you went outside right now, looked up, and saw dead pixels in the sky. You'd ask questions, wouldn't you? If something doesn't seem right, we have to ask, that's how it works. Most of the time, it really isn't a big deal, but there are some things that still don't sit right with me, even if just a little.

-the whole hell-in-a-handbasket-overnight thing. I get that it was fast, but everyone immediately captured or fighting to the inn within a few hours seems a bit of a stretch.

-how fast the inn and prison were set up. Seeing as how everyone who has arrived at the inn felt the need to sleep, I'm thinking all this happened before, say, midnight. Let's say the invasion started at sundown, maybe eight-o-clock. In the time between then and the first PC to arrive, Amy had the Inn fortified, staffed, organized, and supplied, and I assume the prison started up about as fast. There is plenty of good reasons I can think of for this, it just hasn't been explained yet.

-the prison's looting. We have been going out on looting runs since the morning of day one, and every single place we've gone has been looted before we got there (right down to the booze, most of the molotov-guality stuff was taken). It has been told us that practically everyone either winded up at the inn or prison that first night, and all the rest were killed (males) or captured (females). There have been a few lone survivors, but every one has pretty much hunkered down and not done any looting. That means that a combination of the prison people and the Goddess' chosen few picked the place dry in about eight-twelve hours. Except that the prison stated that they had already spent massive time/womanpower to free two or three hives of women, and dragged them all to safety, so where'd they find the time? This one is my biggest 'wtf?', but I at least see the OOC reasons for it

-some of the up-there NPCs, specifically the inspired. Eceryone starts with a single whatchamacallit, and gets more at significant junctures, but all the inspired NPCs seem to have multiple already, despite the fact that most seem not to have left a haven since this all happened. Once again, I can see multiple reasons why, but it hasn't been explained. I'm pretty sure it ties into the reasons the inn/prison was set up so fast, however.

Now, just for the record, this is not a list of complaints. This is a list of unanswered questions the players, and probably some of the characters, have. I think a couple may be plot points that will be uncovered at a later time, and I'm sure that other people have additional ones that I didn't think of.

[Marx]

And I'm sure that other people have additional ones that I didn't think of.

How did they get Inspired powers in the first place? How did anyone? And why is it that the amount of monsters encountered by the character's group is tantamount to the amount of characters in that group? Who's to say there isn't a building full of two dozen monsters, that wouldn't hesitate to even attack one girl? Why is it that a single character, all alone, has only seen one monster at a time? Is there any particular reason for this?

And to add onto River's question, why are people like the Director, the Goddess, and all of the other over-powered NPC's so unbelievably strong? And why white hair? Is there any significant fact that we aren't aware of that makes their hair white?

And that's another thing that stumps me; Essence, drained through sex? Does that make any sense? I don't think so, and yet it's what this whole game seems based around, sex, sex, sex, as if the whole game just seems to revolve around sex, and impregnation, and gives no thought to structure, or reason.

I'm sorry, Raptor, but you're doing it wrong. Try to make your facts within the game more coherent with sense the next time you decide to so blithely say you're using, "Logic"

[Shrike7]

I vote, for reasons I am unwilling to disclose, that Marx is, in fact, an alternate screenname for RaptorJesus himself, and is in fact using it to try and incite me into something.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Aw, you never let me have any fun. :(

Anyway, yes, Marx is me, and the purpose behind him was just to see what would happen if I made a criticizing post about my own game, to see your reactions. And perhaps, it was my own mistake to include the words, "You're doing it wrong," I just couldn't help it. :D I made that post in memory of everyone's criticisms, after all!

[BurntToast]

Hurr, very funny RJ. I thought Marx was Kayi actually.

[Shrike7]

Aw, you never let me have any fun. :(

Anyway, yes, Marx is me, and the purpose behind him was just to see what would happen if I made a criticizing post about my own game, to see your reactions. And perhaps, it was my own mistake to include the words, "You're doing it wrong," I just couldn't help it. :D I made that post in memory of everyone's criticisms, after all!

*sigh*...

Does a player's opinion matter so little to you?

[ToxicShock]

I REHURT MY LEG! SUNNAVABITCH!

[DeMatt]

Aw, you never let me have any fun. :(

Anyway, yes, Marx is me, and the purpose behind him was just to see what would happen if I made a criticizing post about my own game, to see your reactions. And perhaps, it was my own mistake to include the words, "You're doing it wrong," I just couldn't help it. :D I made that post in memory of everyone's criticisms, after all!Okay, consider me thoroughly trolled.

Think of it this way, we feel possessive enough about AWMBI, and by extension its DM, to defend it that much.

[ToxicShock]

IM GONNA KILL THAT FUCKER

[Mamono Assault Force]

*sigh*...

Does a player's opinion matter so little to you?


Absolutely not, it's those opinions, both good and bad, that help me learn from previous mistakes. I wouldn't have been able to make that post, insulting my own game, if it weren't for you guys. Thinking of how the problem would be from your position helped me achieve a higher understanding of criticism, and why people would dislike certain aspects of my choices for the game's structure. From Wallpaper's distaste for my roster of creatures, Kayi's obsession with drama, Phoenix's posts neglected, and your dislike for the lack of the ability to make your character exactly the way you want her. I did read, and to this day, remember exactly what you all said. And while this is an opinion, I agree with you in a way. I am doing it wrong. I thought that this game was a good idea, to share what I thought was the best little bastardization of a game made perverted I had ever concocted. When, to my own surprise, not everything went as expected. Posts were neglected without my knowledge, certain players found my selection of creatures dislikable, and some people joined just to cause drama within' the game.

In retrospect, if I could keep all of this knowledge I obtained from making this game, all the things I learned from you, and go back in time, I'd decide to not make this game, and would likely have focused on something much simpler, likely becoming a GM for Jumpers, and abandoning any thought of making a game like this, and sharing it with the public, ever again.

I REHURT MY LEG! SUNNAVABITCH!

... I am sorry, but I have to ask... How'd you hurt your leg again? 0.o

[Shrike7]

Please tell me that was a joke, RJ.

[Tassadar]

Note: GMing for Jumpers is NOT simple.

And AWMBI is awesome, just because things didn't go as you'd have liked them to is no reason to be so down. Things like those are going to happen in any RP, don't let it bother you too much.

Like this one time in D&D, one guy got really pissed when a giant counterspelled his flamestrike and was depressed for an hour before he started getting back into it.

[DeMatt]

Emilia frowned, "No... There are women here that are like you... But we never gave them a gun... Not after one pretended to cooperate... And shot one of us in a rage..." she put a hand to her chest, and had a look of fear in her eyes, "It was awful... Just for someone... To die like that..."Oy. THAT attitude's not gonna help the cause of unification. Why would "prisoner faking loyalty to get released" mean "loyal from the start" can't be trusted, Emilia? Really shouldn't paint all women with the same brush if you expect women to not paint all futas with the same brush. Yeah, I can understand women who've been kept locked away, if not being raped, being just a little pissed. So I can understand not allowing THEM firearms. But are you truly afraid that lady over there who says "Yeah, I like bedding my girl!" is mentally adding "Right up until I get my hands on a weapon!"? Or are you afraid that she'll start saying "Eh... not tonight, I've got a headache," and be able to enforce it?

[Shrike7]

I did express a preference for the ones that were in there to begin with, but yeah, anyone without a dangly bit down there is what River was implying.

Also, RJ, you haven't answered my question up there about your post being a joke yet...

[Tassadar]

I'm guessing Ashley getting out of the prison is going to be a pain in the ass, in that case.

[Shrike7]

Or you could fast-forward to the day River's there, and go back with her ;)

[Tassadar]

Completely possible, and it'd let her work out in the meantime. Prisons all have someplace to work out. Though I imagine not being allowed to leave and forced to walk around dressed in rags by the prison futas is just going to make Ashley hate them more.

[ToxicShock]

"What should we do with her? Is there someone in charge around here we can talk to about what she did?"

OOOOOOOH SHE GOOOOONA TEEEEEL ON YOOOOOOOOU




..I kicked someone.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Now, normally, since you're my wife, I'd race right over and teach that person a lesson about eggs being implanted in your stomach, but I think you should have known better than to have used your injured foot to hurt things.

I think you owe your foot an apology.

[Shrike7]

Absolutely not, it's those opinions, both good and bad, that help me learn from previous mistakes. I wouldn't have been able to make that post, insulting my own game, if it weren't for you guys. Thinking of how the problem would be from your position helped me achieve a higher understanding of criticism, and why people would dislike certain aspects of my choices for the game's structure. From Wallpaper's distaste for my roster of creatures, Kayi's obsession with drama, Phoenix's posts neglected, and your dislike for the lack of the ability to make your character exactly the way you want her. I did read, and to this day, remember exactly what you all said. And while this is an opinion, I agree with you in a way. I am doing it wrong. I thought that this game was a good idea, to share what I thought was the best little bastardization of a game made perverted I had ever concocted. When, to my own surprise, not everything went as expected. Posts were neglected without my knowledge, certain players found my selection of creatures dislikable, and some people joined just to cause drama within' the game.

In retrospect, if I could keep all of this knowledge I obtained from making this game, all the things I learned from you, and go back in time, I'd decide to not make this game, and would likely have focused on something much simpler, likely becoming a GM for Jumpers, and abandoning any thought of making a game like this, and sharing it with the public, ever again.

RJ, I need a straight answer on this one, it's very important: Do you mean the entirety of this post?

[Loli Defense Force]

Note to those interested: Selena's going on a random run, those who want to do something, join her in the shops and missions thread.

[ToxicShock]

would you mind so much making a run with me (and perhaps dixie) to the police station? Supposedly their armory was locked, so I doubt it's been raided, and if dixie comes, she'll know where it is, and if you come, we won't need the key :)

And RJ, it's ok, calm down. We were both kicking each other. Mine just collided harder at a worse angle. *edit* oh yeah, and now it's the shin, not the ankle.

[ZeroSpace]

Can I come? :(

[Mamono Assault Force]

Curiosity before I answer your question, which part of that post made you want to ask?

[Shrike7]

telling you would colour your answer and make the whole thing pointless, separate it yourself if you were joking on some of it and telling the truth in the rest. I'm not trying to make this difficult, I just need to know, alright?

[Mamono Assault Force]

I'm hesitant to answer the question, without knowing the purpose behind it. And I think you misunderstand my character by thinking I'd change my answer based on what you said. I simply want to know what part made you want to ask the question, and if you tell me that, I will put what part I was joking in quotes for you.

Based on the strange occurrence of your question, I won't answer until I know why.

[Shrike7]

People subconsciously colour their answers based on what they think people want to hear, I can't blame you for it, I do it myself. As for which part of the post I'm looking at, the entire thing seethes with sarcasm when I read it, but the important parts are here:


Thinking of how the problem would be from your position helped me achieve a higher understanding of criticism, and why people would dislike certain aspects of my choices for the game's structure. From Wallpaper's distaste for my roster of creatures, Kayi's obsession with drama, Phoenix's posts neglected, and your dislike for the lack of the ability to make your character exactly the way you want her. I did read, and to this day, remember exactly what you all said.

...

When, to my own surprise, not everything went as expected. Posts were neglected without my knowledge, certain players found my selection of creatures dislikable, and some people joined just to cause drama within' the game.

In retrospect, if I could keep all of this knowledge I obtained from making this game, all the things I learned from you, and go back in time, I'd decide to not make this game...

...abandoning any thought of making a game like this, and sharing it with the public, ever again.

I'll leave telling you why I feel these are important, because if I say so now, it will likely become the focus of your next post, and the part about the original post won't get written about as much as it should be. Is that acceptable?

[Loli Defense Force]

Can I come? :(

Sure? You guys should... y'know, reply in the thread instead of here, so RJ knows and I knows :/

[Mamono Assault Force]

Tell me the truth, and I'll do the same, simple as that.

[Shrike7]

Alright, you want it, here goes:

Truth is, I feel that you belittle the opinions of the people playing under you, and it makes the game less fun for me as a result, to the point where I am seriously considering dropping the game entirely right now. Everything I have pointed out in this thread and my PMs to you, I have done to be helpful, to allow both the game and your own ability to run it to evolve, and become better, but I have yet to see anything come of my suggestions, or anyone else's either. Your post above reads to me that you have read all of our opinions, yet it means absolutely zip, zero, and zilch to you, except for the fact that we aren't 100% your little happy RPers, and you should go be emo and cut this game's wrists.

Now, I wasn't privy to the majority of what went on between you and Kayi, Wallpaper, or Phoenix (Though i get how posts get skipped, done it a couple times myself :/), I did feel that Kayi in particular had a few really good points and suggestions before she lost it and started spamming hate all over the place. I myself am an experienced RP'er, both with freeform and the troubles that come along with it, and with gaming systems, including the forefather of the game your system is based on, and what makes it one of the simplest, quickest, and still most in-depth systems out there. I made several suggestions that I feel are fair, balanced, and simple to implement, and all i got back were accusations that I just wanted to powergame, and this isn't a level-grinding type of play area. You went and made fundamental changes to how the game worked that I could tell didn't feel right before I even knew what system you were using, and first you didn't allow anyone to see your processes at all, and then you flat-out denied that anything you had done couldn't possibly be anything but flawless.

You said that you read and remember everything we said, but it seems to have gone in one ear and out the other, without any consideration taken as to whether anything might have been a good idea or not. I have tried just ignoring it and moving along, but I can't help the need to try and help, and every time I do, I just get more and more depressed, so yes, unless I have been a complete bitch and have missed something this entire time, I am leaving this game.

Your turn.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Thinking of how the problem would be from your position helped me achieve a higher understanding of criticism, and why people would dislike certain aspects of my choices for the game's structure. From Wallpaper's distaste for my roster of creatures, Kayi's obsession with drama, Phoenix's posts neglected, and your dislike for the lack of the ability to make your character exactly the way you want her. I did read, and to this day, remember exactly what you all said.

Truth is, I wasn't joking about any of that post. People have gotten so worked up over my mistakes, beginner GM mistakes, as this is my first game, that most of the time I can't take what they're saying seriously. But, not everyone acted that way, and those opinions, I listened to full heartedly. I took Wallpaper's dislike for the creatures to heart, and felt as if I failed in another aspect of the game because of it, yet some time before that, I heard someone compliment the selection. I kept hearing back and forth opinions about the game, and have had many people leave already for reasons mostly gone unvoiced.

As far as I can remember, I messed up in one scene with Kayi, and it was completely my own fault, as I brought OOC knowledge into action, that ruined what might have been an interesting scene. I didn't just forget that, let it go through one ear and out of the other, as you say I did, and I think I learned to GM a little better from that mistake.

From the way I read your PM's, and complaints, which I did not see as suggestions as much as dislike for a certain way the game mechanics worked. I saw you trying to have River do something amazing, and when she couldn't quite do it due to her stats, I saw you getting angry over the fact, and when I read the accusation that I was doing it wrong, I couldn't take it seriously, although I did hear your suggestions. But, this was a two-way mirror. I didn't like how easy it was to max out stats, even some of the pre-made characters often had level 5 stats, and that made me relate them to heroes, not survivors. While you preferred that method. And there was also your suggestion for specializations, which I thought about when I started the interest get thread, and decided that due to the way I had points distributed, that'd be awkward to implement.

In retrospect, if I could keep all of this knowledge I obtained from making this game, all the things I learned from you, and go back in time, I'd decide to not make this game...

That was mainly due to the people, few and far between that actually voiced their opinions, that complained over how points were distributed, how certain game mechanics worked this way, or that way, that honestly had my palm covering my face, saying, "For the love of God, I hear more complaints than anything else from you," This isn't me, 'going emo,' it's me very much wanting to go back to the good old days, where I would play games like this by myself, and I'd be perfectly happy with the game mechanics. And if I wasn't happy, I'd just either revise, or make a new one from scratch all over again, and nobody would complain, nobody would jump in and say I was stone walling them, or that I was doing it wrong. It is a peace of mind I miss.

[ToxicShock]

Don't let it pull you from the game. You're practically the star of this thing.

If River leaves, our "main girl" will be one with a penis for chrissake :rolleyes:

[BurningGold]

Don't let it pull you from the game. You're practically the star of this thing.

If River leaves, our "main girl" will be one with a penis for chrissake :rolleyes:

Hey, have you all forgotten about Iris or something? :p

[ToxicShock]

Nah, I was just joking around.

I have a piece of paper somewhere where I tallied all the girls and the number of missions/runs they did.

[plmnko]

:(

but, this is my favorite game to read

[thetwo]

First off, let me preface this this with a minor disclaimer. I still don't see how people get so worked up over games like this. Yes, if I were the GM I'd do some things differently. But I'm not, so I'll live with it. If I ever had a suggestion I thought would be a genuine improvement to the game for everyone involved, I'd go ahead and suggest it. But if RJ disagreed with me that it would be an absolute improvement, well it's his game and I think it's worth playing as-is, even if "as-is" isn't absolutely ideal from my point of view. If you don't think the game is worth playing as-is, well then why are you playing? If you can't accept that your suggestion might not be an improvement from everyone's point of view, well poo on you.

I didn't like how easy it was to max out stats, even some of the pre-made characters often had level 5 stats, and that made me relate them to heroes, not survivors. While you preferred that method.

Here's the thing: given the choice between playing a hero and playing a survivor, everyone's going to pick the hero. Well, almost everyone. Besides, a bunch of heroes isn't especially realistic, but a bunch of normal people would be boring. (What, nobody wants to risk near-certainty of rape to scout out a zoo? Well, that's pretty realistic... but suddenly I wish we had a Hero who'd be willing to do it!) I tried to make a semi-realistic background for Jenn to explain why she has the skills and attributes she does, but the background itself was tailored to give a useful character in the end, and I admit I did sacrifice some accuracy for a more useful character... and I'm not terribly sorry about it, since a useful character is more fun to play in the long run. You can pretend to be less competent then your character sheet, but not *more* competent.

Besides, if it makes you feel better you can just assume that there's a whole bunch of people at the inn, the vast majority of whom are normal or below normal... and it just happens that all the above-normal/hero girls are PC's. And/or the surviving non-captured population is significantly above-average compared to the pre-disaster population because people who weren't didn't make it.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Mind yourself, TheTwo, let's be polite.

[ToxicShock]

thetwo is defensive of this game, so keep in mind that what was said was not specific towards you. All the statements were "if this is how you act and this is how you feel about it, go fuck yourself." It wasn't a straight "fuck you" directed at you shrike.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Still, it wasn't very nice...

[ToxicShock]

oh not at all, I'm just hoping it didn't have to be taken offensively even if it came off as or was intended offensively

[Shrike7]

Alright, thank you, time is short (heading off to work), but i'll get what i can down now.

Truth is, I wasn't joking about any of that post. People have gotten so worked up over my mistakes, beginner GM mistakes, as this is my first game, that most of the time I can't take what they're saying seriously. But, not everyone acted that way, and those opinions, I listened to full heartedly. I took Wallpaper's dislike for the creatures to heart, and felt as if I failed in another aspect of the game because of it, yet some time before that, I heard someone compliment the selection. I kept hearing back and forth opinions about the game, and have had many people leave already for reasons mostly gone unvoiced.

As far as I can remember, I messed up in one scene with Kayi, and it was completely my own fault, as I brought OOC knowledge into action, that ruined what might have been an interesting scene. I didn't just forget that, let it go through one ear and out of the other, as you say I did, and I think I learned to GM a little better from that mistake.

Like I said, I know very little of what happened with Kayi, as it was back when I was playing in 10+ games myself, so a lot of the stuff that wasn't directly pertinent to me went right by, especially when the OOC thread was getting three pages a day. I myself have tried to be as calm and logical about things for as long as I can every time, but it just seems like I've got to be a hell-consuming bitch just to get a straight answer, and it stresses me out.

From the way I read your PM's, and complaints, which I did not see as suggestions as much as dislike for a certain way the game mechanics worked. I saw you trying to have River do something amazing, and when she couldn't quite do it due to her stats, I saw you getting angry over the fact, and when I read the accusation that I was doing it wrong, I couldn't take it seriously, although I did hear your suggestions. But, this was a two-way mirror. I didn't like how easy it was to max out stats, even some of the pre-made characters often had level 5 stats, and that made me relate them to heroes, not survivors. While you preferred that method. And there was also your suggestion for specializations, which I thought about when I started the interest get thread, and decided that due to the way I had points distributed, that'd be awkward to implement.

Now that's what I would like to know. Everytime I had made a suggestion, you had never really said anything about it. If I had been told that you had thought about it, and decided that it would be too difficult to implement, then I would have felt better about it, instead of feeling like my thoughts were being ignored.

The mechanics themselves are fairly familiar to me, and if you felt that 20 points was too many for Attributes, for example, then by all means, cut the number down. Seeing as the one example they give has a 5 and the rest are all threes, I agree with you, it is too easy to make overpowered characters. But the massive growth of point costs makes it near impossible to be even average, without sacrificing something to do it. Same thing with skills. As an ordinary person, we all pretty much have 1 or 2 points in every single skill on that list, but in order to be useful and helpful characters game-wise, we are forced to reduce ourselves to complete retards in a lot of things that we would have used in everyday life. Do you get what I'm saying?

I guess what really ticked me off and caused the 'you're doing it wrong' part was compounded right from before the game truly began, with that first argument on how to spend the points. You quoted the book directly, which was what caused the initial confusion, but that all got settled. Then you handed the book out, and I found the part that you quoted, which actually explained that it went the other way of the initial discussion. No big deal, but I PMed it to you, because it was pertinent to what we were discussing at the time (the part where I wanted to do something amazing). You stood by your initial reasoning and told me it was correct, so I started quoting page numbers. Only then did you explain that you had purposely changed it, to reduce the power level of characters, which started us on that other big argument.

Point is, there have been several times where we've gotten into heated arguments, where if you had come out and told me what I had asked fully, I would have gone 'okay, makes sense, moving along'. If you had told us that you had changed the point buy system, instead of swearing up and down that what you described was how it was done in the book, it would have saved a lot of grief, for the both of us.

That was mainly due to the people, few and far between that actually voiced their opinions, that complained over how points were distributed, how certain game mechanics worked this way, or that way, that honestly had my palm covering my face, saying, "For the love of God, I hear more complaints than anything else from you," This isn't me, 'going emo,' it's me very much wanting to go back to the good old days, where I would play games like this by myself, and I'd be perfectly happy with the game mechanics. And if I wasn't happy, I'd just either revise, or make a new one from scratch all over again, and nobody would complain, nobody would jump in and say I was stone walling them, or that I was doing it wrong. It is a peace of mind I miss.

If you change a system, there will be snags, every time. And when that happens, players will go 'huh? Why is this like that?', every time. That's just what happens, it's called playtesting. That's something both sides have to live with

Running a game is not an easy job by any means, and I realize that, it just seems like everything i try to do is just flat out denied, without explanation, until i moan and whine and hassle for three days, and then i finally get something out of asking you about it. I'm trying to help, as well as play, because that's what I do, and why nearly every persun I have played under has taken me in and shawed me what they were doing, at least on some level. Maybe that spoiled me, but I know what I'm doing, and I get frustrated when I'm not at least told why something can't be done, or shouldn't be tried, etc etc... And I will keep on pointing things out as far as mechanics and plot goes, because even if you end up hating me for it, it's something that I can't choose not to do.

Thoughts?

[thetwo]

I find censorship of any kind extremely offensive. Also, given the content of this forum, hilarious.

[Shrike7]

So, uh, finished that post like seven hours ago, just in case you hadn't noticed...

[Tassadar]

Relax Shrike, I don't think RJ is going to outright ignore you, he just has to think about what you've written. Right RJ?

[ToxicShock]

I know it's not my business, but what needs to be discussed? It seems you're both on the same page with each other, except maybe not understanding rj's (lack of) feedback to the suggestions. The most I can see is an apology if you thought it was rude or if it seemed like he was ignoring you, but what else do you want to talk about in terms of game breaks and possible solutions?

[Mamono Assault Force]

I don't really have anything more to say about it.

[Shrike7]

...
And for how long have you had nothing more to say about it, pray tell?

[Mamono Assault Force]

Seven hours.

Edit: Eight

[Shrike7]

Right, well then, I'm fucking gone, as you have just proved without a shadow of a fucking doubt that you have not heard a word that I have said, no matter how many times you may have said it. Good bye, good riddance, have fucking fun.

Fuck you.

[Tassadar]

Ouch. Mucho anger. :(

I think she took that one personally RJ.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Wow. And here, I was just saying I didn't want to argue anymore. Although I definitely wasn't taking the situation as nearly serious as she was.

My first thought is to say sorry, but I think I have a feeling that that won't do too much good. I did read everything, even though you will likely continue to think I didn't. I just didn't have anything to say. I'm sorry you took it so personally, but I was just tired of the whole argument. That, and with how unhappy you were with the entire game, perhaps this was for the best.

[Shrike7]

...but it just seems like I've got to be a hell-consuming bitch just to get a straight answer...


...If I had been told that you had thought about it...


...Only then did you explain...


...where if you had come out and told me...


...If you had told us...


...without explanation, until i moan and whine and hassle for three days, and then i finally get something out of asking you about it...


...and I get frustrated when I'm not at least told why something can't be done, or shouldn't be tried, etc ...

_______________________________________________________

So, uh, finished that post like seven hours ago, just in case you hadn't noticed...

Relax Shrike, I don't think RJ is going to outright ignore you...

...not understanding rj's (lack of) feedback...

I don't really have anything more to say about it.

And for how long have you had nothing more to say about it, pray tell?

Seven hours.

Edit: Eight

_______________________________________________________

Wow. And here, I was just saying I didn't want to argue anymore. Although I definitely wasn't taking the situation as nearly serious as she was.

Now, how many of the top quotes fit this little snippet?

My first thought is to say sorry, but I think I have a feeling that that won't do too much good. I did read everything, even though you will likely continue to think I didn't. I just didn't have anything to say. I'm sorry you took it so personally, but I was just tired of the whole argument. That, and with how unhappy you were with the entire game, perhaps this was for the best.

I didn't say that you hadn't read it, I said that you didn't hear it, which you seem to prove again and again every time you post. I wanted a discussion, if you didn't have anything to add, say so. This has come up almost every time we've had an argument, and you have yet to clue in on it. You think I like all this? You think I want to keep arguing with the person running the game? Cause i can assure you, i absolutely hate it right down to the center of my being. if you had made that post when you had decided it, eight hours ago, i would still be playing. But not only did you decide to wait until I had to ask again, you made a fucking joke out of it, when I have repeatedly asked you for a serious conversation. That's why I'm leaving, and that's why I am unhappy with the game. I can deal with fuzzy rules, I can deal with awkward situations, I can deal with my character not being what i want her to be, I can deal with all of that shit and more, because that's what happens. It's your bullheaded insistence that you can do no wrong, and that other people's opinions have no weight in anything, that I can't deal with. And since I have tried and tried to help you grow as a person and overcome that since day one on this game with exactly zero success, I'm gone.

[Mamono Assault Force]

The fact that you think I insist that I could do no wrong, and that I completely ignore people's opinions proves to me without a shadow of a doubt that you didn't hear what I said either.

People have gotten so worked up over my mistakes, beginner GM mistakes, as this is my first game

I took Wallpaper's dislike for the creatures to heart, and felt as if I failed in another aspect of the game because of it

I messed up in one scene with Kayi, and it was completely my own fault, as I brought OOC knowledge into action, that ruined what might have been an interesting scene.

None of that was sarcasm, it was the truth. And since I'm sure this kind of superfluous suspicion, and accusations about my intentions would only continue, I'm glad to see you're willing to stop it, at least in some degree. I won't complain.

I have received a lot of learning experiences from all most every member that joined to play in this game. DeMatt and Kayi taught me about how important character development can be, over simple game play mechanics. DeMatt also taught me how to make interesting, and involved NPC's, rather than just have the players go about, and make their own story, while the NPC's give simple answers, and guide them on their way. Keylo helped me learn how to work with the players if their having trouble making their character interesting, via many steam chat sessions. After viewing his side of the story, and seeing just how interesting he wanted Luna to be, it helped us both to form a bond between each other, to work together to make something interesting, rather than bicker and argue about whatever problem either of us had. I was surprised at how well Keylo and I worked together, as I had already grown accustomed to working with players like you, who only seek to find the problem in everything, and address it in the most confrontational, and childish manner, even resorting to insults and curses when they get angry. Keylo, along with a few more substantial figures I've still yet to name in this post, were the core inspiration I had to keep posting, and maybe think about a new, improved sequel. And had you have acted in a more civil manner till the ending of this game, I would have taken up your suggestions for the new game system when I made it. But, seeing as how you pursue the lie that I'm evil, ignorant, and downright disrespectful to the players I wanted to share this game with, rather than keep it to myself as I always did before this, I'm glad to know that away from this game, and me as well, you'll be further away from misery.

Other players, like TheTwo, BurningGold, ToxicShock, Loli, Burnt, Tassadar, and Silthe, have all told me that they enjoyed the game, and some of those people have given suggestions, and asked me questions about certain decisions I've made about the course of the game, which I answered, and they had little problem with. The reason I still bother to get on this computer, give them updates to their threads, is because they tell me they're having fun. Not because I'm getting some kind of a power trip, which I'm assuming you think I wanted from this game, but because of the very first thing that came across my mind when I saw hardly any erotic role playing games like Jumpers, Dark Conception, and GenX around. I thought that because I enjoyed playing these things so much, perhaps I should share it, and you'll have as much fun as me when I play. After hearing you rant, and rage, I realize this was an entirely idiotic idea. Thinking just the game would satisfy, and everyone would be happy. Thinking that even though I had no experience, and would likely be terrible, perhaps some people would enjoy it for what it is, a simple, fucking, game. And while you give my game more credit than it deserves by telling me to go fuck myself, I'm glad to see you've made the decision to evade anymore drama by leaving. While I, and several others will miss you, we can't stop you in your pursuit of happiness.

And if my personality is something that gets in the way of that, I'm terribly sorry.

[BurntToast]

It's a shame Shrike7 is quitting, twas a good role playing and shall be missed. Oh well.

[ToxicShock]

She looked into the womans eyes, her breath coming in short gasps; "I hope I'm not being too forward..."

Regina backhanded ashley hard so she turned from the pain and fell face first on the bed. She then reached one hand down to rip the rags away from her nethers while the other hand pressed down hard on the back of her neck. She pressed the tip of her penis against Ashley's not unfamiliar ass before stopping to tell her, "This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this."

[Tassadar]

Regina backhanded ashley hard so she turned from the pain and fell face first on the bed. She then reached one hand down to rip the rags away from her nethers while the other hand pressed down hard on the back of her neck. She pressed the tip of her penis against Ashley's not unfamiliar ass before stopping to tell her, "This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this."

I am not your king.
:D

[ToxicShock]

I didn't put king or queen cuz I don't know what regina would be really.
...I'm not your unisex dictator? (hehe dick-tator)

[Tassadar]

Lol, that's great.

[ToxicShock]

HAHA I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF THIS BEFORE. RJ did you do this on purpose?

"Heh, I like you, kid, you've got a real mouth, but that'll get you into trouble, if yer not careful."

Technically, it already did! Hell it's the reason she's got extra junk IN FRONT of her trunk.

[Mamono Assault Force]

I kinda did it on purpose, but that's mostly what I thought Dixie would say.

Edit: Also, wowzers, haven't seen this many new posts in a while.

[ToxicShock]

TAKE THAT! YA DICK

[Mamono Assault Force]

:(

[ToxicShock]

Sorry, that was a typo. That was supposed to be "I'll take that, your dick."

[Mamono Assault Force]

"I'll take that, your dick."
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=1619

[Tassadar]

WTF!?

[BurningGold]

... Eww.

I really hope Iris, Luna, and Emily have a moderate chance of being able to beat the boss without Josephs help. I'm positive that if he was in perfect condition he would make the fight a lot easier.

[ToxicShock]

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=1619

what

[ToxicShock]

Hey double post. Does Regina not know how futas are made? Cuz uhhh.. we got a code yellow going on right now.

[DeMatt]

Hey double post. Does Regina not know how futas are made? Cuz uhhh.. we got a code yellow going on right now.That thread is just the day after the apocalypse. Maybe this is how Regina and company find out. Though it'll be funny to see Ashley move from hating futas, to wanting sex with a futa, to being a futa...

BTW, why "code yellow"? Why not saffron? :p

[ToxicShock]

Saffron makes me think either bitter or disease. Yellow was off the top off my head because it doesn't sound like a usual "code." Also, pee is yellowish.

Speaking of which, what hole does a futa pee out of?

[DeMatt]

Saffron makes me think either bitter or disease. Yellow was off the top off my head because it doesn't sound like a usual "code." Also, pee is yellowish.Howzabout "Lemon Chiffon", or "Blond"? "Code Yellow" is a standard code, one step above "Green", but below "Orange" and "Red".

Actually I think I like "Code Blond" best. Implies airheadedness. :D
Speaking of which, what hole does a futa pee out of?I'm gonna go ahead and say the urethral tract of a futa is effectively identical to a male's - that is, she pees using her dick.

So a futa can pee standing up. Hmmm... I don't think Melissa's ever noticed Mina leaving the seat up... :p

[ToxicShock]

Code Blonde makes my mind go on a tangent to "Stuck in the Middle with You"
(+5 points to anyone who knows how I got to that)

So whats with the impregnation stuff, huh

[thetwo]

"You didn't tell me the air was hot! There's fucking flying women harassing my chopper! I'm getting back under the cover of David's scope, Peterson out!"

Who's the only one with the ability to radio the chopper directly that also knows about the succubi? This one is the director's fault. :P

[BurningGold]

Who's the only one with the ability to radio the chopper directly that also knows about the succubi? This one is the director's fault. :P

Speaking of the director. I think I'm going to have Iris call her for help. If the director knows that the copter can't come and Joseph is in bad shape then I think there's a fair chance she will drop what she's doing and come to everyone's aid. Then again I could be very wrong and she might just tell Iris to handle it herself.

[ToxicShock]

I think it's more or less whatever has to be done to make you continue the mission with him in hand

[Tassadar]

Hey double post. Does Regina not know how futas are made? Cuz uhhh.. we got a code yellow going on right now.

Heh, don't worry, RJ and I had a discussion about it.

[Loli Defense Force]

Hey RJ, will my gambling or cheating skills ever come into play D:

[DeMatt]

Hey RJ, will my gambling or cheating skills ever come into play D:Probably not storyline-wise. Though if Selena really wanted, she could probably find some takers for card or dice games in the Inn... simply for stress-relief, of course.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Cheating comes into play against opponents with intelligence. If I say that Selena grabbed at some sand from the ground, and blinded her opponent with it, then your cheating skill came into play. Cheating can be done in more than just gambling, but battle, and social confrontations as well, where Selena could effectively, "Lie" to another person.

Gambling ---> What DeMatt said, mostly, unless a situation comes along where I'll include it.

[ToxicShock]

Whoopsieme, I used the wrong avatar

[BurningGold]

Ok I think I get how to fight the flying women whilst keeping a chance of winning. While fighting them you mentally ignore them, think of something else and not of them as you fight them. Like think of say... A book while you take aim and shoot at them.

[Loli Defense Force]

Man... seriously, what's the point of fast reaction time, it never seems to work for me >_>

[Mamono Assault Force]

The thing bursted through glass... Do I need to explain how unlikely it is to just stare straight, and take aim while glass shards are flying all over from a Minotaur bursting into a bar?

Besides... everybody has fast reaction... You didn't think there wouldn't have been be some counter measure to occasionally stop people from just insta-killing every monster they see, did you?

[ToxicShock]

I think it only applies to characters surprise attacking us, as opposed to initiative in a frontal confrontation. It was aware of us as much as we were aware of it ahead of time, so I'm not sure it would come into play there.

[DeMatt]

I think RJ gave all the bigger monsters the Fast Reactions quality, mostly because it's probably the single most powerful one. Melissa and Jenn both have Fast Reactions, and the tentacle monster they're fighting right now is going before them.

Another reason is the limited number of qualities to choose from. Without taking Acute Senses or Resistances, taking all the positive qualities costs 24 points - within reach of a Survivor who doesn't mind the 9 points of drawbacks. So EVERYBODY takes Fast Reactions.

[Loli Defense Force]

The thing bursted through glass... Do I need to explain how unlikely it is to just stare straight, and take aim while glass shards are flying all over from a Minotaur bursting into a bar?

Besides... everybody has fast reaction... You didn't think there wouldn't have been be some counter measure to occasionally stop people from just insta-killing every monster they see, did you?

Yeah, but it stopped, turned, then charged, that's a large timeframe :/

[ToxicShock]

My god, that thing sucked her off in two turns... it must be amazing.

I think it'd be funny if it saved the cum and used the same tentacle to pump it into one of the other girls

[DeMatt]

Well, unless something happens, it just might get the chance. Melissa's gonna flounder her way across to Mina.

[ToxicShock]

Even if it's under the rocks, it doesn't take long for it to get up there.... it WILL rape you.

Now that I know the jellyfish don't digest people, I'm kind of sad that I didn't see any full jellyfish rape.

[DeMatt]

Well, the thing is, we don't have any means of fighting it while it's under there, we don't have any way of going around this area, so with the bridge broken we're gonna have to go into the water while it's lurking at some point.

I'm hoping that between the wounds Jenn dealt out, and the meal Mina fed it, it'll stay put under the rocks while the rest of us go dog-paddling. And Melissa's worry over Mina is as good an excuse to test that theory as any.

Besides, if it was gonna drag women under and use them for incubators, it would've dragged Mina under. She's still got a uterus - it just doesn't produce ova any more.

[Loli Defense Force]

Huzzah! I scared off RJ again!

[ToxicShock]

Maybe if you stopped wanking off in his face



AND STOP PULLING ME INTO YOUR SICK LITTLE GAMES!

[Mamono Assault Force]

Hehehe, nobody scared me. I'm just getting into Oblivion again, and I check back on this forum every so often.

[Mamono Assault Force]

Also, I'm raging(Again) over Nightmare's Unnamed coming to a sudden halt. I LOVED THAT GAME SO PHUCKING MUCH *Tear drop*

Gahd... I really do miss that game... I feel like I lost a beloved member of my family.

[Tassadar]

Holy shit, it knocked her out in one hit. Is that spousal abuse?

And now you've got me getting the PC version of Oblivion. Also, I wonder what ever happened to Icelus?

[Mamono Assault Force]

It didn't completely cripple her, as that's what happens when your stamina gets directly hit. It just knocked her out. Once she wakes up, she'll be fine.

Yeah, PC version of Oblivion is really great, even if only for the boobies. But, you can also get other female companions, personal lairs, flying castles (http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/picture.php?albumid=115&pictureid=1959), and even Martigen's Monster Mod, that puts more monsters into the game, not to mention some, "Sexual creatures" mods out there, that make some of the female monsters... More pleasing to the eyes.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/26251-4-1249335532.JPG
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/images/25980-1-1248283354.jpg

And asides from all that, I felt that female characters in the game didn't quite get the... Sexy clothing they deserved. So I looked around a while back, and found this amazing mod, Apachii Goddess Store (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13437). It has a large variety of different clothing, and armor, and weapons to suit your heart's content, however, in order for the clothes to look right, you'll need Exnem's female body replacer (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10171), the one I mentioned before, in order for the outfits to look right.

Also, that's a good question... Icelus was running a great game, until he/she suddenly just vanished right out of the blue...

[ToxicShock]

Holy shit. I apparently got fucking rocked.

I read this thread first, so I was trying to figure who you were talking about. I checked unpacking first like "Hmm, that doesn't make sense, why would Regina knock Ashley out." No dice, wrong thread. So of course I check the one with the boss, and a little sexual escapades avoided, the boss didn't come back up. So I of course completely forget about the knockout thing and check on my thread, only to see I got oh snap pwned

[Mamono Assault Force]

Heh, like I said, Josie's just seeing stars, she's not entirely out of the fight.

[ToxicShock]

For the time being..

*EDIIIIIIIT****
hey question. is my axe with me, or is it sticking out of the creatures wrist?

[ToxicShock]

-Double post-
A-HA! Knock me out in one hit? Ha, I laugh at that, I'll kill it in one hit, beat that shit :cool:
(.. i mean aside from it being shot and all)

[BurningGold]

I guess I hadn't understood what the director meant by ignoring them. I'd thought she meant thinking of something else whilst fighting, I guess that wasn't the case. I didn't even know that simply looking at them would be a mistake. Looks like Iris, Luna, and Emily are all finished unless Joseph can save them, which he won't because he's hurt so badly.

Raptor, would asking for a retry be asking for too much? Cause our characters are doomed at this point.

[Mamono Assault Force]

They're not doomed.

[Keylo]

I actually expected this to happen in this sense, but IC Luna was too enraged to take another action ;P... Well then, let's see what we can do from here, and if we lose? Fufufufu, oh well. It'd have been game set, match, and checkmate.